Wrestlemania 27 pre show thread. Will contain Royal Rumble and EC Spoilers etc

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All Pre show musings here please.

JP Liz V1

http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/publish/WWE/article10016497.shtml

WWE star Rey Mysterio is working through a rotator cuff injury. The problem occurred during the most recent overseas tour, and WWE officials have been trying to limit his in-ring work to television and pay-per-view or by having him in tag matches when he does work non-televised matches.
In related news, Mysterio handpicked Cody Rhodes to work his current program with. The current plans call for the duo to have a match together at WrestleMania 27. Creative plans can and often do change, but that is what they are currently working toward.

Charisteas

Did Kelly Kelly's interference last night mean that they are looking towards a Kelly/McIntyre V Vickie/Ziggler match at WM? Would be a bit of a step down for Ziggler after his recent feud with the Champion Edge.

PTH2009

My Wrestlemania Main Event Ideas

Del Rio vs Edge (The Most Possible)
Del Rio vs Rey (Rey would win the title at EC but since hes injured might not happen).
Del Rio vs The Miz
Del Rio vs Randy Orton
Del Rio vs Wade Barret

Your Opinions ???

Hopefully they wont make Del Rio cash in his opportunity eariler than Wrestlemania

JP Liz V1

PTH2009 wrote: »

My Wrestlemania Main Event Ideas

Del Rio vs Edge (The Most Possible)
Del Rio vs Rey (Rey would win the title at EC but since hes injured might not happen).
Del Rio vs The Miz
Del Rio vs Randy Orton
Del Rio vs Wade Barret

Your Opinions ???

Hopefully they wont make Del Rio cash in his opportunity eariler than Wrestlemania

Del Rio V Edge V Christian (if he is back) in some form for the WHC title

parker kent

Happy that my Punk/Orton and Cena/Miz predictions look like happening (although not happy that I lost Internet connection and couldn't post in the predictions thread or actually watch the Rumble live. Damn you Eircom :pac:)

Anyway, I mentioned it in another thread, but what are the odds that Christian returns before Mania and plays a role in a possible Edge/Del Rio match. Maybe turns on Edge and hands Del Rio the title?

Ridley

I'd kinda like it if Dashing's disfigurement was all in his mind.

Diabhal Beag

Ridley wrote: »

I'd kinda like it if Dashing's disfigurement was all in his mind.

Nah. Him kicking the **** out of people wearing a mask would be great.

Ridley

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Nah. Him kicking the **** out of people wearing a mask would be great.

He can do both.

JP Liz V1

parker kent wrote: »

Happy that my Punk/Orton and Cena/Miz predictions look like happening (although not happy that I lost Internet connection and couldn't post in the predictions thread or actually watch the Rumble live. Damn you Eircom :pac:)

Anyway, I mentioned it in another thread, but what are the odds that Christian returns before Mania and plays a role in a possible Edge/Del Rio match. Maybe turns on Edge and hands Del Rio the title?

I wouldnt mind seeing Christian challenge Del Rio for his WM world title match at EC if he was back

Machismo Fan

So we most likely have Cena/Miz, Orton/Punk, Del Rio/Edge, Mysterio/Cody, probably HHH/Sheamus if HHH bothers to come back and maybe Big Show/Nash if that leads to anything. Not a bad card. No MITB should make WWE put at least a little thought into the undercard.

Mr.Nice Guy

Hopefully they won't be doing Cena vs Orton now. I would have liked to have seen it three years ago but not now.

I'd be surprised if Del Rio vs Edge is a one-on-one match. I can see someone else being added to this. Maybe Rey. Everything else seems fairly easy to predict. Hopefully they can build it well as at the moment I'm a bit underwhelmed by the card.

jmolloy

very intrigued by the idea of adding christian to a edge v del rio feud.they could give christian an angle as the veteran who's bitter over the chances that del rio has been given

DM_7

I wonder if Bryan will get a singles bout at mania?

Furious-Red

Kofi vs Bryan would be great

flahavaj

I don't think Christian is going to be getting world title shots anytime soon, nevermind at Mania. That ship has sailed.

parker kent

flahavaj wrote: »

I don't think Christian is going to be getting world title shots anytime soon, nevermind at Mania. That ship has sailed.

I think my idea of him being in Edge's corner is more likely. The Slammys have been a starter for many Mania matches in the past and Christian did refer to him during E&C's spot. I think even that is pretty optimistic for Christian.

Alex Kidd

Can see Christian, Kofi and Bryan all being in the MITB match.

Furious-Red

What about Kofi vs Christian vs Swagger or something for the IC title ?

Bounty Hunter

atm it looks like they are building to something like this pending Celeb involvement and who knows what the Divas will be doing in two months time

CM Punk vs Randy Orton
The Miz vs John Cena
Alberto Del Rio vs Edge ( vs Christian?)
HHH vs Sheamus
The Undertaker & The Big Show vs The Corre
Cody Rhodes vs Rey Mysterio
MITB match: John Morrison def/ Kofi, Drew, Dolph, Booker T, Kane, D.Bryan,
eliminatipn match: Eve, Laycool, Awesome Kong, Gail Kim, Natalya, Beth, Melina, Kelly Kelly, Vicky Guerrero

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Source

WrestleZone has exclusively learned that WWE plans on giving Jerry Lawler his wish, and "The King" will get to wrestle at WrestleMania.
The plans, which are considered "top secret" at the moment, are for Lawler to be involved in some sort of gimmick or handicap match involving Michael Cole.
WWE Chairman Vince McMahon feels they have invested so much time and air time into Michael Cole's heel persona, they need to get (and we quote) "some sort of payoff or resolution to the investment."
According to a key insider in WWE, Lawler and Cole will end up "in some sort of situation where they blow off Cole's heel run on the biggest show of the year."

sliotor

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

atm it looks like they are building to something like this pending Celeb involvement and who knows what the Divas will be doing in two months time

CM Punk vs Randy Orton
The Miz vs John Cena
Alberto Del Rio vs Edge ( vs Christian?)
HHH vs Sheamus
The Undertaker & The Big Show vs The Corre
Cody Rhodes vs Rey Mysterio
MITB match: John Morrison def/ Kofi, Drew, Dolph, Booker T, Kane, D.Bryan,
eliminatipn match: Eve, Laycool, Awesome Kong, Gail Kim, Natalya, Beth, Melina, Kelly Kelly, Vicky Guerrero

Are they going to have a MITB match because I heard somewhere a few months back that they were going to scrap it because they have a ppv for it. Not saying they wont just wondering

parker kent

I'd be surprised if they have a MITB match.

paddyismaddy

does anyone actually want to see miz as champion going into mania - let me guess he will drop it to cena then - i'd nearly prefer cena v orton again or better cena v orton v punk for the title

Bounty Hunter

paddyismaddy wrote: »

does anyone actually want to see miz as champion going into mania - let me guess he will drop it to cena then - i'd nearly prefer cena v orton again or better cena v orton v punk for the title

strangely there arent that many i do want to see with the title atm so The Miz is alright in my book. I mean:

Sheamus: Doesent need it atm imo he's the KOTR and has HHH on the horizon

Cena: He has been more interesting than normal recently imo simply because he isnt always in the main event.

HHH: Hunter does not need the belt again, he like Cena above for the time being withe the youth movement etc is probably better suited to undercard trying to promote newer talent i.e Sheamus.

Punk: Okay Punk is the one exception imo and I had hoped he would have a bigger mania match than non title vs Orton (most likely atm) but I think he's replaced Jericho as the all round who fills the holes WWE need filled and does it so well that it's still one of the better angles/matches.

Morrison: When he learns how to use a Mic in any form at all I think he will get a run as a champion but not during the road to WM.

Orton: Randy kinda bores me these days but he is better chasing the title than holding it and he has been too involved in the title hunt already recently imo.

...

The Miz: might not be top choice, but he is a symbol of the youth movement, he's the tough enough (premiers after WM) champion, the hated heel, and most likely the best buddy of the GM in the form of Michael Cole, so I guess I can live with him as champ right now even if id prefer Punk.

Anyone think The Miz could go over Cena at WM? I wouldent expect it though a lot could depend on the GM angle i guess and how much thats used to push Miz.

parker kent

parker kent wrote: »

Having a punch up with a guy who is in the WWE title match at the next PPV doesn't seem like a burial to me. Ted could easily cost King the match at the PPV. Cue Mania match with Cole in Ted's corner and Maryse turning on Ted.

Going to quote this in here as it is more suited to this thread. Might make an interesting idea given the Maryse/Ted and Cole/Lawler angles.

JP Liz V1

Do you think SCSA could feature at this year's WM since he coming in as the host of the new Tough Enough and the contestants are to debut around WM time - maybe as a guest ref in some match

Mr. Guappa

sliotor wrote: »

Are they going to have a MITB match because I heard somewhere a few months back that they were going to scrap it because they have a ppv for it. Not saying they wont just wondering

I thought that the MITB ppv was canned after a poor buy rate last year?

At the moment it looks like the following 3 matches are nailed on:

Cena - Miz
Punk - Orton
Edge - del Rio (plus a 3rd guy?)

Rey - Cody looks probable

I'm not so sure that HHH will return before 'Mania, and even if he does it's looking less likely that he will face Sheamus, due to the patchy booking of Sheamus in recent months.

The rumoured Sting - Taker match would add a marquee match which is so far lacking from the card.

Some sort of Cole -King payoff looks likely also, although its still unclear exactly who/what that will involve.

After that you have a women's match and possibly a tag match given that Santino is pretty popular - maybe they lose to New Nexus or Corre in the next few weeks and get the belts back at WM.

That leaves guys like Barrett, Kofi, Bryan, Swagger, Kane, Show, Morrison, Dolph, Drew and maybe Sheamus with no clear plans at this stage. Most will probably be in MITB. Surely JoMo is the favourite to win that?

CMpunked

As long as jerry got to go ape sh!t on cole and give him a beating like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEvbNQvvqj8

I would be so happy.

Im thinking SMACKDOWN

Rey could end up winning the belt at EC. Leading to del rio v rey. With a possible appearance by Edge?

jaykhunter

Barrington wrote: »

Surely the main reason they'd be bringing in Sting, Nash and Booker T would be because Wrestlemania and the Hall of Fame are in Atlanta this year? It may not be a full WCW-themed HOF, especially with Shawn Michaels already having been announced, but bringing them into WWE for that period could really add to the Road to Wrestlemania. I'd say it'd be worth the money they pay for them. Particularly Sting.

I nabbed this from another thread because I think it's brilliant. If WWE are gonna do a WCW-thing; what if they just said feck it to the current storylines and did some WCW matches instead? Could that draw? Or better yet would it be any worse than their current lineup?

Personally i want to see Sting vs Taker. I can only imagine the amazing supernatural buildup. I'd imagine Booker and Nash would be faces; so have them face Barrett and Sheamus respectively?

Who would you book to face Sting, Booker and Nash at WM27?
Sting vs ?
Booker vs ?
Nash vs ?

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http://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania/matches/

World Heavyweight Champion Edge vs. Alberto Del Rio for the title seems to be set for WM already

Rjd2

jaykhunter wrote: »

Who would you book to face Sting, Booker and Nash at WM27?
Sting vs ?
Booker vs ?
Nash vs ?

Sting v Chris Masters.
Booker v Chris Masters
Nash v Chris Masters

Then ideally a tag match between Sting/ Booker/ Nash v Masters/ Trent/ Ryder.

Thats the most obvious choice and I don't see any reason for them not to go with it.

Its a shame they it would cost a bomb to get Goldberg back, I reckon he would still outdraw the other three in this moment of time.

JP Liz V1

jaykhunter wrote: »

I nabbed this from another thread because I think it's brilliant. If WWE are gonna do a WCW-thing; what if they just said feck it to the current storylines and did some WCW matches instead? Could that draw? Or better yet would it be any worse than their current lineup?

Personally i want to see Sting vs Taker. I can only imagine the amazing supernatural buildup. I'd imagine Booker and Nash would be faces; so have them face Barrett and Sheamus respectively?

Who would you book to face Sting, Booker and Nash at WM27?
Sting vs ?
Booker vs ?
Nash vs ?

Nash V Sheamus or Nash V Barrett could work I think one of those eliminated Nash at the RR

CMpunked

Booker V Kofi.
Dunno why. i just think it could be good.

If booker Smackdown

is a commentator does that mean he will be wrestling at all?

jaykhunter

CMpunked wrote: »

Booker V Kofi. Dunno why. i just think it could be good.

It's the dreads! And Booker was the King of Africa in TNA; Kofi's from Ghana :pac:

CMpunked

jaykhunter wrote: »

It's the dreads! And Booker was the King of Africa in TNA; Kofi's from Ghana :pac:

I think Kofi reminds me of a very young Booker. Maybe not as strong, or with the mic skills(maybe because harlem heat were heels too) but could be some day.

If they go down the road of Alberto v Rey then why not kofi and booker.
Just match up all the close cultured wrestlers.
Finlay and Sheamus.

jaykhunter

How about Finlay & Sheamus vs Regal and Barrett :pac:
Piper vs Drew in a plastic scot vs real scot

CMpunked

jaykhunter wrote: »

How about Finlay & Sheamus vs Regal and Barrett :pac:
Piper vs Drew in a plastic scot vs real scot

Sheamus and Drew v Regal and Barratt might happen some day.

parker kent

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Do you think SCSA could feature at this year's WM since he coming in as the host of the new Tough Enough and the contestants are to debut around WM time - maybe as a guest ref in some match

I'd say there is a chance Michael Cole will get a Stone Cold Stunner! Might lead to JR commentating on the night too, given Austin and JR's fondness of each other.

jmolloy

Nash vs Barrett? Barrett starred Nash down the whole way he came down to the rumble and looked happy to see him coming and Barrett also eliminated him

sliotor

It is looking like jerry will finally get a wrestlemania match probably against cole or someone wrestling on cole's behalf maybe ted.
Does anyone think jerry will call it a day with wwe then because there is not much else for him to do, and he is getting pretty stale with his jokes etc. 18 years is a long time aswell.

Charisteas

Anyone else think we might see Big Show v Ezekiel Jackson at WM?

Pentecost

Charisteas wrote: »

Anyone else think we might see Big Show v Ezekiel Jackson at WM?

God I hope so!!

irish_stevo815

I'm really not liking the idea of The Miz and Del Rio being in the Main Event Title matches at WM. Well I guess i could live with Del Rio being part of a triple threat/4-way for the WHC - Del Rio vs Rey vs Edge (as champ) could work. Maybe his title shot will be put on the line before WM and he loses it!

But as for Mr. Mizanin, to me, he still isnt great for main event, never mind Wrestlemania main event. And with him facing Lawler at EC, he is a cert to still be champ at WM. Like the Del Rio situation, it could be better maybe if they combined the Cena/Miz fead with the Orton/Punk feud and have a 4-way for the WWE Title.

I understand WWE trying to push the future generation, but this is Wrestlemania for feck sake. Going back over the years we had Rock/Austin, HHH/Benoit/HBK, Angle/Lesnar, Bret/HBK, etc. And now were gonna have Miz v Cena........it just doesn't do the name of Wrestlemania any justice. And on top of that, this will be the 7th year in a row that Cena will be involved in the Main event title picture.

Lord TSC

Whats the real alternative though? If we take Miz and Del Rio out of the main event, we risk having Cena vs Orton AGAIN! Yeah, the two may not be the biggest stars but wins over established stars at Mania could propel them into stardom.

It's a problem with WWE overall tbh. Yeah, they are establishing some new stars now but people are complaining that "so and so doesn't deserve to be there!". When they don't push people, the card looks like a repeat of lesser events and they get blasted for not pushing new people.

I'm happy we're getting two fresh matches at Maina tbh. That's more important to me than making sure we get established people in the top matches and having to sit through matches we've seen dozens of times over the year...

irish_stevo815

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Whats the real alternative though? If we take Miz and Del Rio out of the main event, we risk having Cena vs Orton AGAIN! Yeah, the two may not be the biggest stars but wins over established stars at Mania could propel them into stardom.

It's a problem with WWE overall tbh. Yeah, they are establishing some new stars now but people are complaining that "so and so doesn't deserve to be there!". When they don't push people, the card looks like a repeat of lesser events and they get blasted for not pushing new people.

I'm happy we're getting two fresh matches at Maina tbh. That's more important to me than making sure we get established people in the top matches and having to sit through matches we've seen dozens of times over the year...

I agree with you to a certain extent. Take Miz, he's only been in the Main event status for like 2 months is all. Yes, he won MITB way back in June, but that doesnt really count as being in the main event. I'd have no problem with the likes of Miz, Del Rio, Morrison, etc. headlining Wrestlemania, once they were given enough time in the main event picture - i.e. get them in the title hunt or even champs around the summer, then by the time the next wrestlemania comes around, they will be established as proper headliners. I just don't like the fact that they are in the top tier for only a short period then expected to headline the biggest show of the year.

parker kent

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Whats the real alternative though? If we take Miz and Del Rio out of the main event, we risk having Cena vs Orton AGAIN! Yeah, the two may not be the biggest stars but wins over established stars at Mania could propel them into stardom.

It's a problem with WWE overall tbh. Yeah, they are establishing some new stars now but people are complaining that "so and so doesn't deserve to be there!". When they don't push people, the card looks like a repeat of lesser events and they get blasted for not pushing new people.

I'm happy we're getting two fresh matches at Maina tbh. That's more important to me than making sure we get established people in the top matches and having to sit through matches we've seen dozens of times over the year...

One word: Punk.

Lord TSC

parker kent wrote: »

One word: Punk.

I agree but by the looks of it, he's getting a pretty big match by going up against one of WWE's top faces at the moment. Punk vs Orton is a big match in my eyes and is well worthy of the show.

Yeah, Punk vs Cena might be a bigger match for Mania, but then who does Orton face? Miz again? Sheamus again? As I said, there's a lack of ME stars on Raw, and while it might be easy to say "We need bigger matches for Mania", the problem lies in the fact that there's only two "big" superstars at the moment, both of whom have fought each other and most of the heels to death by now. At least Cena/Miz and Orton/Punk are somewhat fresh...

parker kent

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

I agree but by the looks of it, he's getting a pretty big match by going up against one of WWE's top faces at the moment. Punk vs Orton is a big match in my eyes and is well worthy of the show.

Yeah, Punk vs Cena might be a bigger match for Mania, but then who does Orton face? Miz again? Sheamus again? As I said, there's a lack of ME stars on Raw, and while it might be easy to say "We need bigger matches for Mania", the problem lies in the fact that there's only two "big" superstars at the moment, both of whom have fought each other and most of the heels to death by now. At least Cena/Miz and Orton/Punk are somewhat fresh...

I posted on here before the Rumble hoping they ended up with Punk/Orton for the WWE title at Mania and Cena/Miz. I still feel the same. They have the right feuds in my view, just the wrong one has the title. I guess they want to end Mania sending the kids home happy with a Cena title win.

Lord TSC

If that means Punk gets the win over Orton, I'm willing to take that hit <_<

jmolloy

parker kent wrote: »

I guess they want to end Mania sending the kids home happy with a Cena title win.

Maybe but Christian winning a triple threat with Del Rio and Edge would be a happy ending. A guy can dream