Gentleman's club - Politically correct discrimination and censorship

Reward

Im appealing this ban.

The gentleman's club has a anti male pro-PC bias and it allows the report button to be used as a means to censor politically incorrect speech.

False accusations of being "anti-woman" and of my making generalisations to the effect of "all women are ..." are used to justify censoring me while genuine anti-male content gets a free pass there.



Here is the original question http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2056159301

I have been posting right on topic about misandry in the media and suggesting that bigotry when its male to female should be treated like any other form of bigotry, the political correctness/cultural marxism that by design leads to some groups being protected from bigotry while others are not, unconscious misandry and providing links to commentary about misandry in the media, all very much on topic.

This has been misrepresented as derailing and an anti-woman position by the moderators, which is a fallacy, unless women are defined by anti-male bigotry in the media and political correctness/cultural marxism which they are not as the formers are political constructs and the later are human beings. To suggest that being anti-these political constructs is anti-woman is akin to suggesting that being anti-national socialism is being anti-German.

The thread itself contains misandrist commentary and derogatory remarks made by a woman against the intelligence of men and and blaming of men for anti male bigotry on men themselves and personalised attacks against me, which the moderators have chosen to ignore.

This is my first comment on the thread - my comments are on misandry based television based entertainment, political correctness/cultural marxism and politically correct feminism, right on topic, no anti-woman sentiment as none of the above are women.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showp...&postcount=102

My second is here, a commentator alleged that there is a false perception that women are ok with anti-male sentiment, I'm suggesting that the ratings and content on shows and means to sell products to women tells a different story, no anti woman sentiment, just questioning the validity of her initial statement with facts about depiction of men in the female aimed media, right on topic.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showp...&postcount=103

3rd here. Responding to a commentator that was making backhanded insults and clarifying my position was critical of gender war, cultural marxism and anti male sentiment in the media and that I believe that women should be treated the same as everyone else, no anti-female sentiment there as equal treatment and protections between genders is not anti-women, its pro equality, still on topic.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showp...&postcount=115

4th here responding to another board sanctioned personal attack form the same poster but still on topic.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showp...&postcount=117

5th here responding to the OP, still very much on topic and no anti-woman sentiment http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showp...&postcount=119

6th here responding to off topic, personalised attack from the same poster who is misrepresentation my position, there is no anti-woman sentiment. Still on topic.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showp...&postcount=120

7th here demonstrating "misandy blindless" and politically correct double standards to the same poster that is making another personalised attack, I'm clarifying my position, there is no anti-woman sentiment in the post. Very much on topic.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showp...&postcount=123

Post from moderator Banning me for "derailing the thread with my own agenda". All my posts were bang on topic and answering specific issues that the OP had brought up or responding to personal attacks with more on topic commentary.

I'm from mod making an entirely false claim about me derailing the thread.

"Once again trying to derail threads to push you own anti women agenda.You have been warned and warned again,your posts in this thread contravene the charter amendment.We will no longer waste time warning you".

The OP had asked specifically about the double standards in the media concerning female to male bigotry and "misandry blindness" among men, I specifically answered these issues and talked about the source of the double standard (cultural marxism/politically correct double standards which protect some groups and not others), the possible reasons for men being blind to it and posted links to discussions that were relevant to the OP. I was not derailing, I was right on topic. There is no anti woman agenda as the mod alleges, there is an anti-politically constructed bigotry agenda, an anti-misandry agenda, but there is no anti-woman agenda, as political constructs and misandy are no more "women" than communism and racism are "men".


I'd like the forum to acknowledge that the reasons given for my banning were fallacious and that at no point did I break the rules in the charter and to lift my ban.

Many thanks

Reward

Scofflaw

Despite the length of your post, I'm afraid my response is going to be very brief. You're doing what we call 'soapboxing' - that is, you have a specific agenda, it's not open to discussion, you're going to pursue it come what may, and people who disagree with it are clearly stupid and wrong.

That's not acceptable behaviour in any forum.

moderately,
Scofflaw

Reward

Well this is the bias, I will post something. Members of a group will start derailing me with fallacious arguments, I respond to them they continue mobbing and derailing untill it takes over the thead, my requests to aggree to disagree are ignored, the mods wont step in, and I'm banned for being the one with the agenda, the other more disruptive PC agenda gets a free pass and goes unnoticed because its dominant.

Scofflaw

If you look through the DR forum, you will find an almost identical set of complaints offered by other posters, but claiming that Boards runs a policy of misogyny rather than misandry. They, like you, see any attempt to moderate their posting as 'oppression' of their point of view by mods unable to see past their cultural prejudices - and they, like you, are wrong.

moderately,
Scofflaw

Reward

So we are minimising repetitive mod sanctioned mobbing and derailing and double standards to suit one agenda and mods redefining "right on topic" to "derailing" and making false allegations of being anti-woman to in order to justify censorship to "complaining about any attempt of moderation" as censorship.

As for the argument that mods have some ability to see politically correct hypocrisy that I don't, I haven't seen any evidence to support that POV on either of the boards I have posted on here. One lets blatant misandry go and censors criticism of it and calls it "misogyny", the other follows suit but not to the same extreme.

Ok, well thanks for talking the time to read through my appeal.

Reward.


edit - there is a post up on the gentleman's forum now suggesting that all men collectively all hurt women in the past thats going unchallenged.

Politically correct bias.

Scofflaw

Again, it seems you've missed my point. This is not about whether you are right or wrong in your assertions. I wouldn't really consider it possible to judge whether there is a cultural bias in favour of a particular worldview in a forum without pretty detailed and rigorously objective analysis.

You, on the other hand, consider that you have that capability personally, and you have judged, found wanting, and wish to make clear your findings from the judge's chair. Objections from the court are dismissed as suffering from the cultural blindness you are condemning.

And therein lies the problem. It's a discussion forum, not your personal courtroom, nor your personal crusading field. I'm not basing my opinion here on whether you're right or wrong - from a moderation perspective the issue is that you treat the rest of the forum, and the posters and moderators therein, as if they were subject to your personal judgement in the matter. You're entitled to hold an opinion, you're entitled to express your opinion - but you're not entitled to act as if you were entitled to ram it down everyone else's throats without so much as a by-your-leave.

moderately,
Scofflaw

Reward

Scofflaw wrote: »

Again, it seems you've missed my point. This is not about whether you are right or wrong in your assertions. I wouldn't really consider it possible to judge whether there is a cultural bias in favour of a particular worldview in a forum without pretty detailed and rigorously objective analysis.

You, on the other hand, consider that you have that capability personally, and you have judged, found wanting, and wish to make clear your findings from the judge's chair. Objections from the court are dismissed as suffering from the cultural blindness you are condemning.

And therein lies the problem. It's a discussion forum, not your personal courtroom, nor your personal crusading field. I'm not basing my opinion here on whether you're right or wrong - from a moderation perspective the issue is that you treat the rest of the forum, and the posters and moderators therein, as if they were subject to your personal judgement in the matter. You're entitled to hold an opinion, you're entitled to express your opinion - but you're not entitled to act as if you were entitled to ram it down everyone else's throats without so much as a by-your-leave.

moderately,
Scofflaw

If you go to the Absent Fathers thread you will see a poster called metrovelvet with an agenda that has successfully stalled, derailed, misdirected and drawn the conversation round in circles and away from the discussion about the misconception that normal man walk away from their children under normal circumstances and back to her agenda, that we do, and it is now locked. She goes undetected and gets her way, from what ive seen again and again. There is the bias. Men and moderators accepting that sort of slander and allowing their discussion to be lead, minipulated and derailied by someone promoting that opinion of men.

Scofflaw

Reward wrote: »

If you go to the Absent Fathers thread you will see a poster called metrovelvet with an agenda that has successfully stalled, derailed, misdirected and drawn the conversation round in circles and away from the discussion about the misconception that normal man walk away from their children under normal circumstances and back to her agenda, that we do, and it is now locked. She goes undetected and gets her way, from what ive seen again and again. There is the bias. Men and moderators accepting that sort of slander and allowing their discussion to be lead, minipulated and derailied by someone promoting that opinion of men.

As I said, you have a particular agenda, which is at one end of a spectrum. Other people have similarly end-of-spectrum agendas, and if they pursue them in the same way you have done, they have been treated the same way as you, whichever end of the spectrum they fall at. Without getting into specifics, posters with the opposite agenda to yourself, but similarly far from the mainstream, have been here before you, and have received the same answer as you - the forum is not a theatre for your personal crusade.

moderately,
Scofflaw

Asiaprod

Closing this one and marking it resolved.