Returning vicious dog to the pound

Some advice here folks. A friend of mine rescued a dog from the pound , it was only a pup, it seemed great in the pound went through all the checks . Then a few days later picked it up. With in 3 hours of getting it home , she has been bitten 3 times quite bad .


can she return this to the pound , will she get a fine for taking it back ? She could maybe train it but there are kids involved and could be bitten .

carraghsgem

what breed is it?

the pup/dog will be pts if she does return it?

what pound did she get it from?

Vel

Has she ruled out there being any medical reason why the pup might be biting ie. it could be in pain?

I found a friend who is going to foster it for now and take a look into what is going on .

Honey-ec

How old is the dog? Puppies mouth things all the time; it's possible that a nervous/inexperienced owner could interpret this as biting, but tbh, I'd be a bit disappointed that the pound didn't warn her about this and that she didn't do enough research to know to expect it.

If it's a slightly older dog, I still wouldn't necessarily chalk it up to aggression immediately. The pup is still getting used to a new environment and if it has been in and out of the pound at an age where it's still young enough to be referred to as a pup then chances are that it has had little to no training.

I'm genuinely not having a go at your friend here, but it does sound a bit like she didn't know what she was getting herself into, so maybe the dog is better off with a foster.

LucyBliss

I'm curious to know how old the pup is too because in my experience, they're not 'vicious' unless there's some underlying problem there. Pups are generally mad as hatters because they're only learning, which can make them great fun and needing constant teaching (usually at the same time).

I'm sorry your friend got bitten and that that this issue has arisen when I'm sure they were looking forward to having a dog to take care of.

Officer Giggles

i have my 6 month old newfoundland since he was 10 weeks old and at the start he used to nip a small bit, no its got to the stage of me being able to put my hand into his mouth and he just holds it for me, he knows not to bit down anymore cause it hurts

beanie2010

I have a ten month old lab cross & she sometimes nips & jumps up if she gets over excited. For this reason I never, ever, leave her around children unattended.
She doesn't hurt anyone when she nips but it can be frightening for a child & could turn them off dogs for life. Also when she jumps she could easily knock them over.
I have a bottle of water that I spray on her face whenever she does nip/ jump to stop her & it works, she hates being sprayed in the face & is slowly learning not to do it.
But she is still very much in the puppy stage.
Your friend probably did the right thing in looking to remove the pup from the house if she wasn't in a position to properly train the pup. If she has small children then her time is limited as it is. I'm not saying it's not possible but you have to be fully committed.

HelenT

Great news that you got a foster home. Do you know what breed type the pup is? Where it came from? Has this person owned a pup before?

The first thing that springs to my mind is that the pup might not have been with the mother long enough to learn basic puppy social skills and if the new owner is inexperienced she might not recognise this. The good news is, with some investment of time and patience from the new owner it is easily overcome.

pwd

Vicious puppy huh? Oh my goodness. I hope your friend isn't endangering his life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4w1AnZzdjs

Chris_Heilong

I think we should all post videos of our killer puppies so new owners have a reference point to what is normal in young dogs.

Graces7

Same thing as so often; not realising the difference between a nip and a bite. If any dog wants to bite, it will draw blood and tear tissue. Dogs play with their mouths, especially puppies. Poor wee dog. SO glad to be out of the pound and just wants to play.... Poor wee dog.

ISDW

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Some advice here folks. A friend of mine rescued a dog from the pound , it was only a pup, it seemed great in the pound went through all the checks . Then a few days later picked it up. With in 3 hours of getting it home , she has been bitten 3 times quite bad .


can she return this to the pound , will she get a fine for taking it back ? She could maybe train it but there are kids involved and could be bitten .

The OP doesn't say the dog has nipped, the woman has been bitten 3 times quite badly, to me that suggests proper bites.

Dogs don't react normally in a pound situation, so it may well have been submissive in there. The pup could also possibly have been surrendered into the pound because of aggression issues, or just thrown out onto the street because of these issues.

Whispered

But isn't a bite subjective? A bad bite/rough playful nip. A man I know currently has a large dog in his care. The poor guy has no socialisation what so ever and has had an awful start. He's a big dog and so in his playful biting can be pretty rough. It's not agression, it's just a large dog who knows no better for the moment.

Of course the owners need to deal with what is in front of them, and if they can't deal with a dogs playful, but sore nips/bites, they should try to find an alternative, but I would be reluctant to say the puppy is agressive. And even if it is, I would guess in most cases, it's a learned reaction that can be un-learned (is that a word??).

OP what breed is the dog and how old is it?

TooManyDogs

I think the age of the pup is very relevent. How long people describe a dog as a puppy for is subjective, to me once they hit 5 months old they're not really a puppy. We've had people ring the rescue I volunteer for wanting to surrender their puppy but the 'puppy' is a year old.

An 8 week old puppy with serious aggression problems is rare, 6 month old 'puppy' can easily have aggression problems depending on what it's background is.

planetX

I'd question what's really going on here - I don't see how within 3 hours of getting the dog home, it was in a position to bite 3 times. Surely the first thing you'd do with a new frightened dog is leave it to settle in its new environment. Not handle it enough to be bitten...more than once.
3 hours!!!

Toulouse

I'd also like to know what these checks that the dog went through were? If the dog hasn't bitten the warden or shown any aggression toward staff then it would be considered suitable for adoption but afaik no real checks are done in a pound.

Where did she get the dog Dre?

Dog is well and its with somebody who is able to handle it , it also looks like they are actually going to keep it.

What i actually found interesting about this thread is that nobody actually answered my question.

Also nobody seemed to talk about the fact that there was a kid involved.

Anyway ,all is sorted out .

LucyBliss

Speaking for myself, I was just hoping for a bit more background information on what had happened, like the age and perhaps what was going on when the dog bit your friend so that I'd be able to understand what was going on more.

I don't think anyone knew the answers to your questions and perhaps were trying to find a solution so your friend could maybe keep the dog and the children could learn some new skills about dog handling.

No harm meant, just trying to help.

koneko

I think people were trying to be of more help, just answering if there's a fine isn't going to help the family or the dog much.

Glad to hear he's in a good place now though.

Toulouse

A lot of pounds are different (private, local authority, ispca run) so there's not much point in asking what the procedures are if you're not going to specify a place. Also some have rescue working with them that might have been able to help your friend.

Also you get alot of people calling rescues pounds and if it was the case that it was a rescue then the procedure would be that they pup would have to be returned and not passed onto a third party.

Honey-ec

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What i actually found interesting about this thread is that nobody actually answered my question.

Also nobody seemed to talk about the fact that there was a kid involved

You didn't answer anyone's questions either:

How old is the dog?

What type of dog is it?

What pound was it?

Sorry, OP, but you need to expect people on an animal forum to ask such questions before automatically writing the dog off as "vicious".

And by the way, puppies are the "kids" of the dog world. Just like human children, dogs don't automatically know what behaviour is acceptable or not until someone teaches them.

Just sell it to letseatin dude!!!!

The op did nothing to deserve helpful responses. He wont even answer the questions that were asked.

Sounds like Typical bloody owners not understanding what kind of dog they got is. Also, sounds like a troll.

Honey-ec

Honey-ec wrote: »

You didn't answer anyone's questions either

Why should i have to answer a question to a question i asked on a forum i posted . I am choosing not to give this information for a reason . If i want expert opinions i will go to an expert . This is a message board , im looking for some info .

Officer Giggles

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Why should i have to answer a question to a question i asked on a forum i posted . I am choosing not to give this information for a reason . If i want expert opinions i will go to an expert . This is a message board , im looking for some info .

thats the most ridiculous thing iv ever heard, you want answers to a problem and yet you are unwilling to provide any relevant information whatsoever, nobody can give proper info without finding out a few things first, yes this is a message board go though every other thread and the OP will be asked probing questions to further evryones knowledge of the situation and allow them to answer the query as best they can, you have over 3000 posts on boards so i think you know this already

FAYESY

Dre I can see why you feel you are being victimised but you really needed to answer a few of the questions:

1) age of pup
2) breed
3) has your friend had dogs before?
4) how old is the child?
5) how bad was the bite? was it a warning nip or was there blood & puncture marks?

None of this would be too personal in my opnion! Now if your friend had returned the pup & said it bit me 3 times that dog would be dead! You have said another friend can handle it - so maybe your first friend was a little bit scared? & not sure how to handle the dog? Breed comes in to this. Some breeds play more roughly. Dogs need to be taught was is acceptable. I have a very large puppy who is just 6 months he needs some training & is learning what is acceptable behaviour to my family & I.

I am not going to discuss the background on it . Its off topic . End of discussion .

PeakOutput

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I am not going to discuss the background on it . Its off topic . End of discussion .

no its not, end of discussion

Plek Trum

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I am not going to discuss the background on it . Its off topic . End of discussion .

Sheeeessh :rolleyes:
I'd ask Mods to lock this one.. waste of time.

You'd be better off asking in the paranormal or psychic sections if you want answers Dre, dont know how anyone is meant (Or now would want to) advise you.

suziwalsh

The thing is the age of the dog is important, it is very different when a 12 week old pup bites to a 10 month old pup bites.

It is also important to get the facts as you are posting on a public forum about returning a "vicious" dog to a pound. This not only might stop people from adopting a rescue dog if they see this and the details also matter as inexperienced dog handlers might confuse normal behaviour with aggression. I work with dogs every day and the number of people to call me to tell me that their pup has a visicous/evil streak is amazing when in fact the pup is just mouthing or play biting. Information in every situation is relevant. Especially when you are looking for accurate information. I could never assess a dog or advise an owner on the minimal information the OP has provided.

I am also assuming the dog was not really vicious seen as he seems to have found a new home.

Im sorry if the OP is offended by the responses received but it is crazy to think anyone could give advise on the little information he has provided. Except to say the dog could be trained but there are kids involved. So again this is misleading to whether the dog is actually aggressive or not.

Your friend no matter where the dog came from could bring the dog back, the pound will not fine her or shouldnt fine her once it has been a reasonable time since taking the dog on i.e. not longer than a couple of weeks or months. However if a dog has been brought back for biting the dog will be put to sleep.....and that is why more information is needed.

I am not offended by any of the posts but i was just looking to get info of returning a dog to the pound , if there is a fine involved.

The last thing i wanted to do is return the dog to the pound .

So i pulled out all the stops and managed to find a good home for this dog with a person that is able to give time to the dog . With regards the dogs behavior he has already been to a trainer and a Vet . I have him going to a vet tonight as i am getting him flea'ed and vaccinated out of my own money with another dog that i am re-homing tonight .

I was looking for information on the pound bringing dogs back to a pound, does the pound charge you for bringing a dog back after a few hours as this was going to cost the person alot of money .

Now i am not saying anymore about this. If there is an Mod , can you close the thread , it has all been sorted .