Sexism in RTE Sports Coverage?

Morgans

UrbanSea wrote: »

The presenters are male to attract females viewers. Will men tune in to watch Daithi O Se? Don't think so.
Some men are better fashion designers yes,that doesn't mean men are going to tune in to watch a programme on female's clothes because a man designed them.
Men give their opinions on these topics because they affect women but men are in positions of power relating to these issues e.g politicians.


So do you think RTE should include a female presenter on the Champions League for example?
Look at Tracy Piggott on the racing,a female in a position of power in the sports. She's brutal,couldn't remember Pathfork's name the other week when questioning his trainer.

Joanne Cantwell, Evanne Ni Cuileann, Jacqui Hurley, Tracey Piggott are utterly irrelevant. I'd guess that the OP couldnt pick them out of a line-up, but nevermind, given that this thread was started on the back of watching an ad. If it came from a sports fan, it would have far greater weight. Whydoibother? showed how a sports fan can argue cogently on the matter without calling RTE and by extension all sports departments, all media as sexist. Again, Im not holding my breath for the OP to adjust her position regardless of evidence.

irishh_bob

anytime i find myself watching a RTE sports report on tv , its usually a female reporter at the helm , women are well represented IMO on rte sport

uvox

Generally, there is far too much sport on the telly, but especially in the newspapers (look at the amount Sunday Tribune and Village Magazine used to sink into it. Lesson there). That said, if you're going to have this stuff on the telly at all, then it should be balanced. Camogie, women's marathon, and the rest should be covered. Just look at the lousy coverage given to Tracy Taylor until recently, by comparison.

The BAI is not the place to pursue it. Take it up with the broadcasters and also election candidates who write the checks for RTE too.

whydoibother?

irishh_bob wrote: »

anytime i find myself watching a RTE sports report on tv , its usually a female reporter at the helm , women are well represented IMO on rte sport

There's a big difference between covering women's sports and allowing women to talk about men's sports.

dollyjam

Sexism in the Dáil...LOL!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFFf8TW3E9Q

Lapin

There isn't enough time to cover more women's sport.

Because most of the other programming on the box is already aimed at women.

Daytime TV, Soaps, Judge Julie, Lifestyle shows, Celebrity this and that, Rachel Allen (and everyone else) cooking stuff, Ally McBeal, Pottery programmes, Shopping Channels, Chick flicks, Programmes about babies, Birds of a Feather, Oprah and a whole lot more.....

In fact, its a wonder they manage to squeeze enough time in for the few measly hours of sport that us poor blokes get to see at all.

And you don't hear us complaining when they show the women's doubles final at Wimbledon, or Katie Taylor smashing some Cuban birds head in.

PeakOutput

womens sport is on tv all the time just not rte

im sure you could easily compare the viewing figures of the womens soccer on skysports or eurosport to the mens soccer on the same stations

or the womens tennis that eurosport shows

or the womens golf

you can compare the viewing figures of the wnba with the nba fairly simply but ill give you a hint, there is no comparison.

im sorry (actually im not sorry) but given two options, one, watch men play a sport and the other watch women play it i ( and i feel most people) would pick the men because generally they are faster stronger and more skilled and that makes it more entertaining.

there is simply not the demand for womens sport on rte and i imagine the main reason for that is that most of the people who care enough about to want to see womens sport as well have tv packages with channels that show womens sport

mikom

Time to take this issue up with my elected representatives....... you know the ones..... where 95% of them happen to be male.

Bubs102

Gymnastics aside, men are better to watch at pretty much every sport. Why the **** would they show womens sport if the male counterpart is there to watch.

And why is everyone being so polite?

Amazotheamazing

I'd take issue with the idea that by televising women's sports they would somehow become more popular, or at any rate, more participated in.

For example, RTE has been showing hurling and rugby since RTE was established, but outside of select areas neither sport has mass participation in Ireland. You could draw a line from Galway to Dublin on a map and there would be very, very few good hurling teams north of it. It's essentially a sport for the counties south of that line, and Antrim. Other counties have teams but it's not really a mainstream sport.

Wrt to rugby, again, it's been on RTE since RTE began but it's only since professionalism allowed for greater resources in investment in facilities that rugby began to break it's urban strongholds. I know there's plenty of rural clubs but these tend to be of lesser priority to soccer and football in the same way that there is hurling north of the Galway Dublin motorway.

So, if two massively popular sports to watch (virtually every man i know likes watching both sports) still can't break out of their strongholds, despite massive media coverage, why would women's sport be any more successful? In the areas where rugby and hurling are popular it's because it's part of the community. Hurling is close to a religion in Munster, rugby may as well be the religion in Limerick city. If tv stopped showing matches of either tomorrow, the clubs would still survive because it's what people do, it's part of their lives.

I think you have cause and effect in this scenario confused. You seem to suggest that because it's not televised, it's not popular whereas it's clear it's not televised because it's not popular. Television is reflecting people's interest, not the cause of them.

You are blaming sexism in RTE for a far more fundamental problem in Irish life, how do we get girls and women interested in participating in sport? Do our schools encourage girls enough, do they offer enough sports that girls actually want to play? Increase women's interest in sport and you'll see an increase of it on television.

Corsendonk

siopatmul wrote: »

Boards.ie has a reputation for intelligent debate and I'm glad to see that since I left here, the quality of the debate on this issue has improved.
To those of you who have discussed the popularity of women's sports and its lack, the point is that if women's sports were on television more often, their popularity would increase.
RTE's coverage is lopsided in favour of men, therefore it is sexist. They make no attempt to redress this imbalance, year after year and this situation MUST change.
I agree with those who say that encouraging women to play different types of sports would have huge health benefits for women and young girls. Apart from anything else, RTE are failing in their duty to promote and encourage women in this regard.

If there successful they will get on TV, just look at the athletics coverage that RTE gave to Sonia O'Sullivan over the years, they even covered the Golden League Meets she attended. When the U17 ladies soccer team started to do well suddenly the RTE website was webcasting them. 10 years ago the Irish Mens cricket team wouldn't have got a mention on the RTE News even but that changed with success.

Not ever Licence payers watch sports so do you want to reduce present levels of MENs sport coverage to allow more ladies only sports or do you want to increase sports coverage levels further?

siopatmul

If they're successful they will get on TV, just look at the athletics coverage that RTE gave to Sonia O'Sullivan over the years..

Now I understand! Women have to be successful before they have a chance to be televised like Sonia O' Sullivan. This doesn't apply to mens' sports as its on television ad nauseum every weekend on RTE to the almost total exclusion of womens' sport.
If we follow this line of argument, only successful men (and women) sports people would ever appear on tv which isn't possible because there are always losers no matter what sport is being covered.
This ridiculous - women have to be successful - argument reveals what you are really thinking but don't dare say because you might come across as an out-and-out sexist. Mind you, your argument, though silly, is not as vicious as some of the (male?) responses on this thread.
Most of the negative replies reveal a horrendous attitude and a complete denial that equality between the sexes should exist in any arena.
Appalling.

28064212

siopatmul wrote: »

If they're successful they will get on TV, just look at the athletics coverage that RTE gave to Sonia O'Sullivan over the years..

Now I understand! Women have to be successful before they have a chance to be televised like Sonia O' Sullivan. This doesn't apply to mens' sports as its on television ad nauseum every weekend on RTE to the almost total exclusion of womens' sport.

No, women's sports have to be popular before they have a chance to be televised. You continue with this flawed assumption that supply dictates demand. It does not.

Before the current generation of Irish rugby super-stars, how much rugby was shown on TV? How much coverage was given to it, compared to soccer or gaelic? Or soccer for that matter, how much coverage was given to it before we qualified for the 1988 European championships and the Jack Charlton area began? As already pointed out, cricket coverage has multiplied tenfold since Ireland started becoming successful

siopatmul wrote: »

This ridiculous - women have to be successful - argument reveals what you are really thinking but don't dare say because you might come across as an out-and-out sexist. Mind you, your argument, though silly, is not as vicious as some of the (male?) responses on this thread.
Most of the negative replies reveal a horrendous attitude and a complete denial that equality between the sexes should exist in any arena.
Appalling.

And all of your responses have refused to enter into any kind of debate, or even open up to the possibility that your position is flawed. And now you've resorted to openly insulting posters based on what you think they said, rather than what they actually said

mikom

Lol at the appeals for RTE to feature more womens sports.
They can't even afford to show a world title fight which is taking place here in Ireland.
Willie Casey comes from traveller stock, so siopatmul you can add this to your list of "isms" to rage and wail against.

"Thank you for taking the time to write to me on the subject of the Willie Casey fight. As you may know I have a particular interest in boxing having instigated RTE's relationship with Bernard Dunne in my capacity as Head of Sport. The Cordoba Fight was the culmination of 4 years work and support and a truly great night for Irish Sport. Late last year RTE covered Willie Casey's European title fight, however since then our finances have taken a further turn for the worse. The government's December budget resulted in a Euro 15million hit to RTE. We are currently forecasting a 30million deficit for 2011(including costs relating to the implementation of Digital Terrestrial Television etc) that could be worse should commercial revenues not pick up.
That is a pretty long winded way of saying that we simply do not have the resources to fund this broadcast. The promoters are asking us to provide an outside broadcast unit which will cost a minimum of 75k. We already have very significant budgeted obligations in RTE Sport such as the upcoming 6 Nations, The GAA Championships, The Rugby World Cup and Ireland's Euro 2012 qualifiers. Much as it pains me to say it RTE will not be in a position to fund this additional unbudgeted event unless we can secure commercial sponsorship to offset the production costs.

Thank you again for your enquiry,

Kind Regards,

Glen Killane


Glen Killane
Managing Director
RTE Television"

http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/2010/12/20/willie-casey-to-fight-for-world-title/

Supraman

It's as simple as this the reason ladies sports are not shown on rte as much as mens is that generally speaking the standard in the more commercial sports is of a higher standard in the mens equivalent. The ladies events don't have anywhere near the same attendance figures so why would rte in a nation with only a few national channels provide such niche viewing.

I'm not dismissing ladies sport either by the way , I have 2 very good friends who have been in college in the states and won state and national championships in soccer.
The sport has taken off there relatively recently and as a result probably isn't subject to the notion that has been built up since the game was founded that it's predominantly a male game.

In an ideal world we'd all be out picking tulips singing Kumbaya, eating strawberries and cream for breakfast lunch dinner and tea, living in a country where the politicians prefer to look after the general public rather than the bulge in their bank accounts. The reality is not such and society is flawed from many forms of isms. The situation WILL NOT change in the immediate future.

PeakOutput

siopatmul wrote: »

If they're successful they will get on TV, just look at the athletics coverage that RTE gave to Sonia O'Sullivan over the years..

Now I understand! Women have to be successful before they have a chance to be televised like Sonia O' Sullivan. This doesn't apply to mens' sports as its on television ad nauseum every weekend on RTE to the almost total exclusion of womens' sport.
If we follow this line of argument, only successful men (and women) sports people would ever appear on tv which isn't possible because there are always losers no matter what sport is being covered.
This ridiculous - women have to be successful - argument reveals what you are really thinking but don't dare say because you might come across as an out-and-out sexist. Mind you, your argument, though silly, is not as vicious as some of the (male?) responses on this thread.
Most of the negative replies reveal a horrendous attitude and a complete denial that equality between the sexes should exist in any arena.
Appalling.

everything is equal, forcing unpopular sports on tv to appease a small number of eejits who see themselves being slighted in every little way is affirmative action and is just as wrong sexism itself

womens sports have just as much chance as being shown on tv as mens sports and they are most days of the week you choose to be blind to that fact so you can feel hurt and down trodden by the evil men who are running society.

its a joke and you are the reason why the feminist movement is an irrelevant joke in todays world

carry on being offended by perceived injustices, people who actually care will be out looking for the real thing no matter who they are happening to

Heroditas

siopatmul wrote: »

1. You cannot analyse the viewing numbers, demand etc for something that does not already exist so most of the replies here so far are irrelevant and off message

Yet you then say:

siopatmul wrote: »

2. Women's sport would become more popular/ be in more demand if it got more of an airing, specifically on RTE

No viewing figures exist yet you declare the sports would become popular?
Any substantiation to back this up like, y'know, international studies with empirical data?

siopatmul

PeakOutput wrote: »

everything is equal, forcing unpopular sports on tv to appease a small number of eejits who see themselves being slighted in every little way is affirmative action and is just as wrong sexism itself

womens sports have just as much chance as being shown on tv as mens sports and they are most days of the week you choose to be blind to that fact so you can feel hurt and down trodden by the evil men who are running society.

its a joke and you are the reason why the feminist movement is an irrelevant joke in todays world

carry on being offended by perceived injustices, people who actually care will be out looking for the real thing no matter who they are happening to

I notice you have no problem with the neanderthal rants of some of the respondents on this thread but that's only to be expected. Like for like.

PeakOutput

siopatmul wrote: »

I notice you have no problem with the neanderthal rants of some of the respondents on this thread but that's only to be expected. Like for like.

i dont care what the other people say im addressing you and your points only, im not suprised you choose to ignore the points and facts i bring up.

siopatmul

PeakOutput wrote: »

i dont care what the other people say im addressing you and your points only, im not suprised you choose to ignore the points and facts i bring up.

Yes, and I am addressing your directly with a great idea I think will really work for you.
If you tremble at the thought of the possibility of 50 pc womens' sport on RTE, I suggest you get a one-way ticket to one of the small villages in Afghanistan where Sharia Law is still practiced.
Once you get there, you will find that when girls reach puberty, they are not allowed to participate in any sports while at the same time being segregated from men and discriminated against 24-7.
Who knows? The Sharia chieftains (who still live in the Dark Ages) might welcome you with open arms...Also, there is no chance you would be obliged to watch women playing sports on telly or anywhere else for that matter. Let me know when you get there.

Corsendonk

siopatmul wrote: »

I notice you have no problem with the neanderthal rants of some of the respondents on this thread but that's only to be expected. Like for like.

The phrase "chip on shoulder" comes to mind. You might get more support for your idea if you stop insulting everyone. How do you stand on female sports stars demeaning women by doing provocative photo shoots?

PeakOutput

siopatmul wrote: »

Yes, and I am addressing your directly with a great idea I think will really work for you.
If you tremble at the thought of the possibility of 50 pc womens' sport on RTE, I suggest you get a one-way ticket to one of the small villages in Afghanistan where Sharia Law is still practiced.
Once you get there, you will find that when girls reach puberty, they are not allowed to participate in any sports while at the same time being segregated from men and discriminated against 24-7.
Who knows? The Sharia chieftains (who still live in the Dark Ages) might welcome you with open arms...Also, there is no chance you would be obliged to watch women playing sports on telly or anywhere else for that matter. Let me know when you get there.

haha still ignoring fact, logic and reason i see

i doubt they would welcome me there as i like my women just as outspoken, educated and strong willed as i am.

give me one good reason why 50% of the sport on rte should be womens sport? just one, you havn't given any yet

siopatmul

You're not a Sharia chieftain who happens to work in RTE's sports department, are you?
Tell the truth now.

PeakOutput

siopatmul wrote: »

You're not a Sharia chieftain who happens to work in RTE's sports department, are you?
Tell the truth now.

gotta respect a troll whose thread reaches this length

ill keep checking in with the thread and if you decide to debate like an adult ill be delighted to keep knocking your prejudices out of the park

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSS6EDPJSco

Heroditas

Scary, but she claims to be a lecturer in Politics and Print Journalism.
One can only wonder what her lectures are like.

siopatmul

Heroditas wrote: »

Scary, but she claims to be a lecturer in Politics and Print Journalism.
One can only wonder what her lectures are like.

Does it scare you having a debate with an intelligent woman?
By the way, I've reported you for revealing my personal details in your last post.

Heroditas

siopatmul wrote: »

Does it scare you having a debate with an intelligent woman?
By the way, I've reported you for revealing my personal details in your last post.

You posted a link to your own website in your very first post on this thread where it states who and what you are.
Yes, clearly very intelligent. :rolleyes:

Care to answer the question I put to you on the previous page?

28064212

siopatmul wrote: »

Does it scare you having a debate with an intelligent woman?

What debate? You refuse to actively engage, instead you soapbox and throw insults at anyone who dares to question your viewpoint. A debate requires both sides to actually respond to the points raised, not one side repeatedly stating their own point then ignoring any issues the other side raise

ulinbac

siopatmul wrote: »

You're not a Sharia chieftain who happens to work in RTE's sports department, are you?
Tell the truth now.

I have read all the posts on this debate and even in all my time on boards I have never seen such narrow-minded, ignorant and downright rude behaviour!

You mention supply and demand a number of times. The majority of people (women and men) DEMAND male sports including the premiership, heineken cup and so you don't get upset the olympics and horse racing (which have women involved) so what do you think is going to be supplied. Its basic economics!!

RTE has a limited budget and its extremely difficult to compete with the likes of sky or bbc for rights. So do you not think the little they get should be the one the make the most profitable for? It was also mentioned that there would be a broader range of adds available during the sports instead of just male dominated advertisements. Strangely, if you look at the tv any time of day or night 85% + of the adds are towards a female audience and don't the soaps etc. get the majority of prime time of viewing Monday through Friday. So is that sexist?

Yes women should compete in sports more and join clubs to be fit, have another output and social life but your argument is beyond flawed as shown when you intentionally neglect to answer questions that have been previouslt put to you and how you undermine people.

The 60's are over and bra burning is gone along with narrow-mindedness. Also, I have asked the rare few girls that I know that are into sports and the ones that are not would they rather watch womens sports then mens and they answered no! This was followed by a quick why not? To which THEY replied its not a good as mens. And that is a female perspective. Even within you sex your ideology is a minority and in a democracy majority rules!!

So from an economic perspective supply v demand is at equilibrium for society as a whole.

PeakOutput

siopatmul wrote: »

Does it scare you having a debate with an intelligent woman?
By the way, I've reported you for revealing my personal details in your last post.

god if you are a lecturer who thinks this is a debate i pity anyone who has ever had the misfortune of being in your classroom

what do you do if a student challenges something you say in class? turn up the volume in your headphones and carry on talking?

Raedwald

Funniest thread I have read in a good while.

To it simply womens sport will never get the same coverage as mens sport due to demand by the public for coverage of sports events that are regarded by general consensus to be the pinnacle of excellence and they happen to nearly all be mens sports and they draw in the most advertising revenue for each broadcaster.

Broadcasters would be monumentally stupid to cut their male sports coverage in favor of womens sports coverage because their viewing figures would fall dramatically and they would lose revenue, neither of which any broadcaster wants to lose.

IRE60

siopatmu: its a pity that you didn't try and rail-road your views across the back desk of the Daily Star where your were an intern sub for the sunnier months way back when.

The paper has to have some of the best coverage of sport in Ireland - and every sport. But they appeal to the sporting masses for want of the cover price.

A previous poster mentioned Irish Cricket: I stood in a bar in Dublin (which was not noted for its cricket following - believe me!) and we all watched that famous Ireland Game - which was well covered ion the print the following day. The Inter-varsities Canoe polo missed out that day - even if there were women playing.

I'd hazard a guess that's because the Cricket - that day - was going to be a more sought after read - like the cricked caught eyeballs in the bar.

You should have tried to grandstand in the Daily Star - like you are here - or did they scare you into silence.

You should have grown a set of balls and spoke your mind - then - when you were in a position to influence/cajole that particular medium.

Amazotheamazing

Any one else suspect the OP is a troll account set up to discredit the lecturer linked in the first post?

It's frankly inconcievable that a person intelligent enough to be a lecturer could engage in such assinine debate, or at least, you'd hope so anyway.

mikom

Politics.ie fails to take the bait.
Fair play.

http://www.politics.ie/media/149638-rte-political-balance-log-thread-15.html

UrbanSea

Please tell me the OP was a troll or can someone seriously have such terrible tunnel vision?
Bet it's a fake link at the start too.
Lecturer in politics my eye.

Bonavox

siopatmul wrote: »

Does it scare you having a debate with an intelligent woman?
By the way, I've reported you for revealing my personal details in your last post.

Intelligent? Not doubting that, but you need to polish up your points and presentation.

Sincerely,

An Intelligent Man

Morgans

I smell a project/thesis.

There is no way that a lecturer in politics would use arguments that are used - refusing to answer the numerous very valid points made by both male and female posters - call them neanderthals, and call herself intelligent.

Of course, labelling yourself an intelligent female is a underhanded insult to all women. That the men responding on this thread are used to talking to unintelligent females unlike herself the exception. I think the vast majority of posts have been respectful, but I suppose the sexism card is always there for the ignorant to play.

Best of luck with the blog.

And congratulations on moving the lack of coverage from Andy Gray attitude to Sharia Law. That was a dooozie.

flogen

siopatmul wrote: »

Does it scare you having a debate with an intelligent woman?
By the way, I've reported you for revealing my personal details in your last post.

You revealed your personal details in a link at the bottom of your opening post. If you have an issue with them being in the public domain I suggest you delete the site immediately.

To the other posters, please refrain from drawing inferences on others and stick to discuss the topic at hand. If others choose not to discuss the topic that's their own business.

UrbanSea

Watching the Irish rugby match here.
Raging,I wanted to see the Irish under nineteen's women camogie match.

kevin99

RTE television and radio doesn't have the airtime to broadcast women's sport. Simple as.
Next best thing is for the station to hire female sports journalists.
The ubiquitous Joanne Cantwell, Evanne Ni Quillan (sounds so secondary school girlish with no understanding nor interest in what she is reading) and a few others.

AConn

I am conducting a thesis on the causes of recent surge in female sports reporters and the ripple effects of this move being sexualisation. Do you think females have been brought in to cover male sports to counteract broadcasting of female sports in Ireland and further afield?

Do you think that sexualisation of female athletes has engaged in a kind of ripple effect into female sports broadcasting/reporting? (ie) Graygate

Thanks

Corsendonk

AConn wrote: »

I am conducting a thesis on the causes of recent surge in female sports reporters and the ripple effects of this move being sexualisation. Do you think females have been brought in to cover male sports to counteract broadcasting of female sports in Ireland and further afield?

Do you think that sexualisation of female athletes has engaged in a kind of ripple effect into female sports broadcasting/reporting? (ie) Graygate

Thanks

Maybe you should contact the OP

AConn

who?

donfers

AConn wrote: »

I am conducting a thesis on the causes of recent surge in female sports reporters and the ripple effects of this move being sexualisation. Do you think females have been brought in to cover male sports to counteract broadcasting of female sports in Ireland and further afield?

Do you think that sexualisation of female athletes has engaged in a kind of ripple effect into female sports broadcasting/reporting? (ie) Graygate

Thanks

Is it wrong that I read "ripple" as "nipple" in that post?

the answer to all your questions is the relentless brutal honesty of the market but if you want to postulate some theories from that then feel free, personally I think you're way off the mark but people will assign meaning how they see fit and you are entitled to do that

troutfeet

uvox wrote: »

Generally, there is far too much sport on the telly, but especially in the newspapers (look at the amount Sunday Tribune and Village Magazine used to sink into it. Lesson there). That said, if you're going to have this stuff on the telly at all, then it should be balanced. Camogie, women's marathon, and the rest should be covered. Just look at the lousy coverage given to TracyKatie Taylor until recently, by comparison.

The BAI is not the place to pursue it. Take it up with the broadcasters and also election candidates who write the checks for RTE too.

do me a favour love, if your going to use an example get their name right especially when she is by far the biggest female sport star in Ireland atm and the only real option for the op to make a valid point in this thread

Anywhoodle

kevin99 wrote: »

RTE television and radio doesn't have the airtime to broadcast women's sport. Simple as.
Next best thing is for the station to hire female sports journalists.
The ubiquitous Joanne Cantwell, Evanne Ni Quillan (sounds so secondary school girlish with no understanding nor interest in what she is reading) and a few others.

Presume you mean Evanne Ni Chuilinn? She's a mad GAA fan sure.. Involved in a bunch of supporters' clubs for years, plays camogie with Portobello.. You suggesting she has 'no understanding [n]or interest' in sport is probably just your own projection. Her reading is perfectly competent, doesn't sound the least bit disinterested. Can't see any reasonable basis for saying she's not into her job. Would also love to hear what you think points to a 'lack of understanding'? She's not mispronouncing players' names or anything..?

As a woman, I defo wouldn't bother with the womens' GAA matches, womens' footie or womens' rugby.. I think the standard is defo blatantly lower than in the mens' games. (BUT I'm a huge fan of both men and womens' tennis and showjumping where there's no diff between the abilities of male and female showjumpers.. Moot since RTE don't cover tennis or show-jumping though!)

kevin99

Evanne's presentation delivery lacks enthusiasm, interest, excitement for radio or television. She sounds like she is reading a school essay for teacher.
I don't care what GAA interests she has or the fact she plays sport. Thouands of people play sport.
Her job is to make people sit up and watch or listen to her sports bulletin broadcasts. And that's not just my opinion.
Most people I have spoken to about her have the same opinion of her broadcasting skills.
A BBC broadcast trainer watched her on telly one night and couldn't believe she is allowed broadcast.
Let's put it another way. Would she ever get a job with a UK TV or radio station? I doubt it. She is not good enough to be a compelling, convincing sports broadcaster.

brianio

Evanne works in news she's asked not to be exciting or particularly interesting. If she was presenting shows you'd see more of her personality. Cantwell does lack any personality, everything is over prepared.

Anywhoodle

kevin99 wrote: »

Evanne's presentation delivery lacks enthusiasm, interest, excitement for radio or television. She sounds like she is reading a school essay for teacher.
I don't care what GAA interests she has or the fact she plays sport. Thouands of people play sport.
Her job is to make people sit up and watch or listen to her sports bulletin broadcasts. And that's not just my opinion.
Most people I have spoken to about her have the same opinion of her broadcasting skills.
A BBC broadcast trainer watched her on telly one night and couldn't believe she is allowed broadcast.
Let's put it another way. Would she ever get a job with a UK TV or radio station? I doubt it. She is not good enough to be a compelling, convincing sports broadcaster.

We'll have to agree to differ.. I genuinely have no idea what you're objecting to. She seems totally competent to me, v.professional.. I defo can't see any marked diff between the way she presents the sports news and the way Horan (for example) reads it.. Like brianio said, news-readers aren't really supposed to show major enthusiasm or excitement or whatever.. That's just not the nature of that particular area of broadcasting. Their views aren't supposed to come across- total objectivity and impartiality is what's aimed for..

Minstrel27

kevin99 wrote: »

A BBC broadcast trainer watched her on telly one night and couldn't believe she is allowed broadcast.
Let's put it another way. Would she ever get a job with a UK TV or radio station? I doubt it. She is not good enough to be a compelling, convincing sports broadcaster.

I couldn't care less what a BBC broadcast trainer has to say about her. She tells me the sport news and that's all anybody needs. I don't want or need her to sparkle. I think she does a good job.