mirrors

defike

quick one
are mirrors compulsory on a bike.

Tigger

nope
neither are indicators (but must work if fitted)

Sids Not

Tigger wrote: »

nope
neither are indicators (but must work if fitted)

Neither compulsary ,but imo essential to have at least one mirror..;)

stratowide

If you want to stay alive a little longer I'd put them on your bike..Never mind if they are legal..

bladespin

Not necessary, TBH never trust a mirror on a bike, you'll be a lot safer, lifesaver every time.

JohnnyCrash

bladespin wrote: »

Not necessary, TBH never trust a mirror on a bike, you'll be a lot safer, lifesaver every time.

Thats a helluva statement.Do you have mirrors on your bike?
Do you use them? IMO,u cant have enough aids on a bike to keep you safe. You can know whats going on all around you at all times with mirrors.(ie you can see whats going on behind you without taking your eyes off whats going on ahead and your peripheral vision will let you see whats happening to the sides)If you rely on lifesavers only,you have to take your eyes off whats going on in front of you!It would be like having no mirrors in a car and having to look around every so often to see whats going on.We dont have eyes in the back of our heads so every additional aid is welcome,well.to me anyway.IMO they should be compulsory.

Jonybgud

JohnnyCrash wrote: »

You can know whats going on all around you at all times with mirrors..

I wouldn't bet my life on that.....

Blind spots do exist.

Mirrors and life saver, ftw.

JohnnyCrash

Jonybgud wrote: »

I wouldn't bet my life on that.....

Blind spots do exist.

Mirrors and life saver, ftw.

You know what I mean without getting too pedantic about it;) But would you bet your life on no mirrors at all and looking over your shoulders all the time? Dont think so! Sure, there are blind spots,but with mirrors you can subconsciously see whats going on behind and a little to the sides of you,and at the same time being aware of whats going on ahead,your lifesavers filling in any gaps.Alls im saying is that a combination of both gives a far better degree of both vision and safety than either one by themselves. I personally could'nt nor would'nt ride a motorcycle without mirrors as I would deem it hazardous to both myself and other road users.Thats all:D

RosieJoe

I remember when I was getting training and I was told that you should always use your mirrors 'cos they tell you everything you need to know! But to throw a lifesaver, when needed, as your mirrors sometimes lie

bladespin

JohnnyCrash wrote: »

Thats a helluva statement.Do you have mirrors on your bike?
Do you use them?

Why thank you, I didn't think it was all that profound

Yes, I do and again yes, I do but they are not an obligation for road worthiness and I've encountered, time and again riders who rely solely on them for rear views, that's dangerous, a lifesaver should be performed before every manouver, if you don't you're taking your life in your hands.

I don't take it on myself to decide what should/shouldn't be compulsory for other riders and their bikes. TBH I think you should try a few track days and see how much you rely on them, you'll get a suprise; you get used to riding without them in no time.

JohnnyCrash

I think you're losing sight here(no pun intended):DYou said"TBH never trust mirrors". Maybe you meant to say never trust mirrors alone???
Also, with reference to track days,I dont think theres any comparison with riding around in circles on a track and out on the big bad road networks.:DWhat i mean by that is the track environment is reasonably controlled,out on the public roads,well,anything goes!!

bladespin

JohnnyCrash wrote: »

I think you're losing sight here(no pun intended):DYou said"TBH never trust mirrors". Maybe you meant to say never trust mirrors alone???
Also, with reference to track days,I dont think theres any comparison with riding around in circles on a track and out on the big bad road networks.:DWhat i mean by that is the track environment is reasonably controlled,out on the public roads,well,anything goes!!

'Controlled'? You've obviously never been on an open track day, I'd be a lot more interested in what was going on behind me on the track than on the road TBH, you're out there with full on racers that will pass within inches, at least on the road the one that will be doing the passing is you.

Paparazzo

Mirrors should be illegal on bikes for your first 2 years. People would then get into the habit of looking, and not relying on them.

Mirrors are handy, but nowhere near essential.

JohnnyCrash

No.Ive never been to a track nor do I have the desire to-each to his own and all that.I said "reasonably controlled",to which I meant that you know the format.you know the direction you have to go,you know where you start,you know where you finish etc. Its a controlled environment. Theres probably going to be little to no chance of a little child or a dog running out in front of you,or rounding a bend and having to dodge a rock on the road.Thats what I meant by reasonably controlled.Also,everyones going in the one direction-you dont have traffic coming against you,or coming out of side streets etc

bladespin

JohnnyCrash wrote: »

No.Ive never been to a track nor do I have the desire to-each to his own and all that.I said "reasonably controlled",to which I meant that you know the format.you know the direction you have to go,you know where you start,you know where you finish etc. Its a controlled environment. Theres probably going to be little to no chance of a little child or a dog running out in front of you,or rounding a bend and having to dodge a rock on the road.Thats what I meant by reasonably controlled.Also,everyones going in the one direction-you dont have traffic coming against you,or coming out of side streets etc

Don't see how mirrors will be of help if a child or a dog runs out in front of you

defike

Thanks no mirrors it is then or is it?.

seanybiker

defike wrote: »

Thanks no mirrors it is then or is it?.

Upto yourself

JohnnyCrash

bladespin wrote: »

Don't see how mirrors will be of help if a child or a dog runs out in front of you

Ill tell you how they will be of help shall I.If you didnt have them,you'd be so busy looking around that you'd probably flatten 'em;)

bladespin

JohnnyCrash wrote: »

Ill tell you how they will be of help shall I.If you didnt have them,you'd be so busy looking around that you'd probably flatten 'em;)

Doesn't matter, if you're looking in a mirror, you're still not looking where you're going.:P

JohnnyCrash

bladespin wrote: »

Doesn't matter, if you're looking in a mirror, you're still not looking where you're going.:P

Ah come on now,only arguing for arguements sake methinks;) If you're glancing in your mirrors you can be still very aware of whats going on ahead of you(unles you're doing your makeup:D)

Sids Not

bladespin wrote: »

Doesn't matter, if you're looking in a mirror, you're still not looking where you're going.:P

No..youre looking where you've been............thats the science bit.......:p

RosieJoe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25N-4zrk390