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    #2852
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?id=1412649

    "Unique designer compact apartment".

    Admittedly it is quite attractive. However, no mention of a washing machine. In an apartment like this, one would expect the washing machine to be in the kitchen, but the view of the kitchen doesnt show one.

    There is also this nugget of interest:

    "4'6'' Bed: may be more suitable for a single." :confused:

    Presumably the singleton is going to want to bring someone home now and again but wont be able to because 2 people wont fit in the bed.


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    #2853
    Raminahobbin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,983 ✭✭✭Raminahobbin


    syklops wrote: »
    Admittedly it is quite attractive. However, no mention of a washing machine. In an apartment like this, one would expect the washing machine to be in the kitchen, but the view of the kitchen doesnt show one.

    It does say in the ad that there's no washing machine or dishwasher...but there's an "excellent launderette" across the road!

    I'd never rent somewhere without a washing machine, but doubtless there are people who would just rather pay someone else to do it for them :(

    (pretty nice apartment though!)


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    #2854
    Darkglasses
    Registered Users Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    Ideal for nudists maybe.


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    #2855
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    €1100 for a one bed is nuts
    "Some people have harder necks than they claim" is true!

    The flat is not compliant with legislation:
    Washing machine, or access to a communal washing machine facility within the curtilage of the building, and
    Where the house does not contain a garden or yard for the exclusive use of that house, a dryer (vented or recirculation type).


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    #2856
    UCDVet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    snubbleste wrote: »
    €1100 for a one bed is nuts
    "Some people have harder necks than they claim" is true!

    The flat is not compliant with legislation:
    Washing machine, or access to a communal washing machine facility within the curtilage of the building, and
    Where the house does not contain a garden or yard for the exclusive use of that house, a dryer (vented or recirculation type).

    In theory - you might be right.
    In practice - it won't matter.

    The market is hot and renters are fighting with each other for a place to stay. I'd be shocked if it is still available in a month. Maybe the new tenants will raise a fuss with PRTB and spend months fighting for their washing machine....or they'll just wash their clothes somewhere else.


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    #2857
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    UCDVet wrote: »
    In theory - you might be right.
    In practice - it won't matter.
    The market is hot and renters are fighting with each other for a place to stay. I'd be shocked if it is still available in a month. Maybe the new tenants will raise a fuss with PRTB and spend months fighting for their washing machine....or they'll just wash their clothes somewhere else.
    Eh no, anyone can report the property and advert to the local authority for
    a) not complying with minimum housing standards under S.I. No. 534 of 2008 http://www.dublincity.ie/Housing/EnvironmentalHealth/EnvironmentalHealth/Pages/default.aspx
    b) not displaying a BER in the advertisement under S.I. 243 of 2012 http://www.dublincity.ie/Planning/BuildingControl/Pages/BuildingControl.aspx


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    #2858
    UCDVet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Eh no, anyone can report the property and advert to the local authority for
    a) not complying with minimum housing standards under S.I. No. 534 of 2008 http://www.dublincity.ie/Housing/EnvironmentalHealth/EnvironmentalHealth/Pages/default.aspx
    b) not displaying a BER in the advertisement under S.I. 243 of 2012 http://www.dublincity.ie/Planning/BuildingControl/Pages/BuildingControl.aspx

    In theory, anyone can. And if someone did, action would be taken.

    But again, in practice, I wouldn't hold my breath. Again, I fully agree that you are 'right'. But, I will be shocked if there is a new listing in a weeks time with a washing machine and BER. If there is, I'll sincerely apologize.

    I suspect it will be rented out, as is, just fine.

    I've had three different landlords in Dublin and not a single one has met all of their legal requirements. It's par for the course IMHO.


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    #2859
    December2012
    Registered Users Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Eh no, anyone can report the property and advert to the local authority for
    a) not complying with minimum housing standards under S.I. No. 534 of 2008 http://www.dublincity.ie/Housing/EnvironmentalHealth/EnvironmentalHealth/Pages/default.aspx
    b) not displaying a BER in the advertisement under S.I. 243 of 2012 http://www.dublincity.ie/Planning/BuildingControl/Pages/BuildingControl.aspx

    Go on then.


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    #2860
    Paddy Cow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    Raminahobbin wrote: »
    It does say in the ad that there's no washing machine or dishwasher...but there's an "excellent launderette" across the road!

    I'd never rent somewhere without a washing machine, but doubtless there are people who would just rather pay someone else to do it for them :(

    (pretty nice apartment though!)
    A dishwasher I could live without but not a washing machine. For €1,100 a month I expect to be able to wash my clothes whenever I want. The living room is big enough and I would rather have one in the corner and take the look of the place a bit then have to plan my laundry in advance and be traipsing back and forth to the laundrette. I've done my time using laundrettes when back backing.

    Maybe they should target soap fanatics and tell them they can have the authentic Eastenders experience and bond with all the neighbours while washing their undies :pac:


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    #2861
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    My mate was expecting a baby and recently viewed this apartment. He was told there is a laundrette across the road. He did report this place for not being fit for standard.


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    #2862
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    UCDVet wrote: »
    In theory, anyone can. And if someone did, action would be taken.

    But again, in practice, I wouldn't hold my breath. Again, I fully agree that you are 'right'. But, I will be shocked if there is a new listing in a weeks time with a washing machine and BER. If there is, I'll sincerely apologize.

    I suspect it will be rented out, as is, just fine.

    I've had three different landlords in Dublin and not a single one has met all of their legal requirements. It's par for the course IMHO.

    Well that's your fault.


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    #2863
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,937 ✭✭✭✭josip


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    My mate was expecting a baby and recently viewed this apartment. He was told there is a laundrette across the road. He did report this place for not being fit for standard.

    Is he far along?


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    #2864
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    josip wrote: »
    Is he far along?

    Yes he only has two months to go :)


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    #2865
    UCDVet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Well that's your fault.

    I'm sorry, but there is really no polite way to say this....you're wrong. There is no possible way any reasonable person could find me responsible for my landlords' failures to comply with the law. In one case, it was the sole reason I moved, so I actually took action to avoid having a landlord who wasn't complying with the law. The next two landlords have failed to meet obligations I don't care about. It might be my 'fault' for allowing it to continue, but certainly not my fault they didn't comply in the first place.

    Sure, I could write letters and file disputes and pay money and waste my time and, if I'm lucky, in a few months, get a judgement in my favour. But my time and effort isn't free. And the existing system that is in place, as good as it sounds on paper, makes it far to difficult for me to care.

    I don't have any obligation to play Landlord Police.
    Landlords (and tenants) have an obligation to comply with the law.

    I had an issue and brought it to the landlord. We disagreed. So, went the legal route.....first I called Threshold. Who advised I call PRTB. Who advised I contact the landlord in writing. Then wait....then file a dispute (which costs money out of my pocket). 15 euro to start it (or 25) and then another 40 if the landlord decides to fight it out with you. Whatever your problem is, it's going to be months before you get a resolution.

    Great in theory....in practice not so much.

    And let's be honest, playing the 'Legal Game' goes both ways. Yes my landlord has a legal obligation to do certain things, but he also has legal rights. For example, I'm paying 900 per month for a one bedroom apartment. I've been here for two years and I have no lease.

    There are a handful of small things I don't care much about that my landlord has an obligation to do (but isn't). If I push the issue, I can force him to do so (but it might take months and cost me money out of pocket). But do you know what he can do? He can raise my rent. He has a right to do so. He needs to give the appropriate amount of notice and he can't go beyond 'market price', but it is still his right.

    He could find plenty of justification too, rents are up in Dublin. 7.5% just in 2013 from what I understand. I've been renting since before that. There is nothing to stop him from sending me notification of a rent increase of 10% or so. My 900 per month could easily be 1000 per month. So, do I really want to be hassling my landlord written documentation of his legal obligation to provide me with a rent book/receipt of payment? No, I don't think so.

    On paper - sure. The law is the law! I have rights as a tenant!
    In practice - I'm not going to bother unless it's something serious enough. And honestly, in most of those cases, I'll just move. If you look at the Accommodation forum on Boards, you'll see I'm not alone.


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    #2866
    Vendettaxx
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭Vendettaxx


    Kersh wrote: »
    Hey, its Ireland, the country of chancers and liars :D

    It's funny how on this board you can't even read a page of a thread without a self-hating Irish guy.

    Do they think it makes them seem smarter than the average peasant or something? Genuinely wondering. That comment is dated 2011 so it's been happening for years.


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    #2867
    Greenmachine
    Registered Users Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    syklops wrote: »
    http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?id=1412649

    "Unique designer compact apartment".

    Admittedly it is quite attractive. However, no mention of a washing machine. In an apartment like this, one would expect the washing machine to be in the kitchen, but the view of the kitchen doesnt show one.

    There is also this nugget of interest:

    "4'6'' Bed: may be more suitable for a single." :confused:

    Presumably the singleton is going to want to bring someone home now and again but wont be able to because 2 people wont fit in the bed.



    Ad says "No Washing machine or dishwasher.Excellent Laundrette across the road"

    Okay been pointed out already.

    Surely no washing machine is illegal.


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    #2868
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Greenmachine wrote: »
    Ad says "No Washing machine or dishwasher.Excellent Laundrette across the road"

    Surely no washing machine is illegal.
    Not sure if washing machines are a legal requirement, but the rent must reflect the lack of one.


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    #2869
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Greenmachine wrote: »
    Ad says "No Washing machine or dishwasher.Excellent Laundrette across the road"

    Okay been pointed out already.

    Surely no washing machine is illegal.

    Sadly no washing machine is not illegal, but 1100 for a box in Ranelagh should be.


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    #2870
    Greenmachine
    Registered Users Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    syklops wrote: »
    Sadly no washing machine is not illegal, but 1100 for a box in Ranelagh should be.

    What!!! :eek:
    So someone would need to wash their clothes by hand or go to the lovely laundrette. :confused:


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    #2871
    Michael D Not Higgins
    Registered Users Posts: 7,223 ✭✭✭Michael D Not Higgins


    syklops wrote: »
    Sadly no washing machine is not illegal, but 1100 for a box in Ranelagh should be.

    A washing machine is a legal requirement. The laundrette across the road does not satisfy this requirement.


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    #2872
    Donkey Oaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Michael D Not Higgins wrote: »
    A washing machine is a legal requirement. The laundrette across the road does not satisfy this requirement.
    ,
    Never knew that until now, but it's true (see article 8, below).

    http://www.environ.ie/en/Publications/DevelopmentandHousing/Housing/FileDownLoad,33422,en.pdf


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    #2873
    srsly78
    Registered Users Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    My mate was expecting a baby and recently viewed this apartment. He was told there is a laundrette across the road. He did report this place for not being fit for standard.

    However there is no legal requirement for a baby, no matter what your expectation.


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    #2874
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Snubbleste pointed out on the previous page that washing machine and a dryer/yard are a legal requirement.


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    #2875
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Share a bunk in a big room with someone called Rafael
    Beautiful flat studio for rent for two people, one is currently on it. in pictures shows a double bed, but actually will be a bunkbed, any information call me and i will show you the flat...
    http://www.daft.ie/21411927


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    #2876
    Mince Pie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭Mince Pie


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Share a bunk in a big room with someone called Rafael
    Beautiful flat studio for rent for two people, one is currently on it. in pictures shows a double bed, but actually will be a bunkbed, any information call me and i will show you the flat...
    http://www.daft.ie/21411927

    That is a sure fire way to end up murdering someone! It makes me angry that people get away with this shíte! :mad:


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    #2877
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,937 ✭✭✭✭josip


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Share a bunk in a big room with someone called Rafael

    Who is about 7 foot tall judging by pic 5


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    #2878
    Doop
    Registered Users Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭Doop


    My god, can only imagine one person wanting to go to bed and the other cooking his dinner in the same room! ffs €350?? is that half the rent? :eek:


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    #2879
    srsly78
    Registered Users Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    Would the crying chair be shared, or would a second be provided?


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    #2880
    laugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Share a bunk in a big room with someone called Rafael
    Beautiful flat studio for rent for two people, one is currently on it. in pictures shows a double bed, but actually will be a bunkbed, any information call me and i will show you the flat...
    http://www.daft.ie/21411927

    This shouldn't be in the sharing section never mind the rentals.


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    #2881
    whatdoicare
    Registered Users Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    Am I seeing things or is the bathroom "open plan" ?


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