Renouncing Irish Citizenship

m@cc@

You see, this is the problem with boards, you'll always get one cnut who'll trawl through your previous posts.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=70072684&postcount=31

GizAGoOfYerGee wrote: »

I want nothing more than to be living, working, and raising a family in Ireland. But I can't.

I was working happily in Ireland from 1996 to 2007. There are no opportunities for me in Ireland anymore. I was forced to emigrate.

I started this thread because I thought there might be other Irish people with similar stories.

I want to be in Ireland, but I know I can't be. A child of mine is due. I wanted it to be brought up in Ireland, but instead it will be Spanish. I am finding that a bit difficult to accept, to be honest.

There appears to me to be no people in this thread that can relate to my predicament. Yet, millions of our own people have been in the same situation.

aDeener

GizAGoOfYerGee wrote: »

Galicia.



Three years here now with lady. My accent is perfect. Spaniards think I'm from Spain.



No, never. That has already been decided. My children will never visit Ireland. I don't want them to pick up British culture from me or Ireland. If they want to visit Ireland when they're 18, they can do so.

there are few things more pathetic than someone changing their accent. congratulations

happyoutscan

This is easily the lamest thread I have come across in a long time. To pretend your 'from' another country to your kids? They should be taken away from you, you don't have the maturity to look after them.

temply

aDeener wrote: »

there are few things more pathetic than someone changing their accent. congratulations

i do hope he speaks in a spanish d4 accent

delonglad

Jaysus your an awful spanish c**t.

Hope your kids are born with a big tuff of ginger hair, have a thick accent and are the freckliest little feckers ever. Also is she beating you that hard for not being Spanish?

From another emigrant. Ye dick!

Xivilai

Sorry OP, but you're a snob.

Going to so much effort to hide your roots because they're not good enough for you.

problemchimp

hsi wrote: »

Si, Vivi y trabaje 20 anos en espana!. Joder tio no sabes nada de nuestra pais ni nuestra cultura. (el de irlanda)

So my experience, real experience of spain trumps yours. And over 20 years I have never ever had a bad experience of being Irish.

El Corte Ingles.. is not a british store, just the name, the food is spanish.

and the spanish do not look down on the Ireland, Each year I bring thousands to Ireland to learn English, because in Spain its seem that the english in Ireland is of a better international standard that elsewhere in europe.

What are your credentials? From what I can see you are what.. 3 years in Spain. I went in 1991. I opened my own Irish School of English in Salamanca.

I think you need to separate the Irish Costa del Sol tourist vision of some Irish who go on Holidays. Outside the Marbella/Torremolinos/costa del sol areas being Irish is very very well received.

And from a Man who travels between spain and Ireland, Ireland is in a far better state at the moment than Spain is. 14% unemployement v 20% in spain, a growing export economy. And unemployment here is falling (not rising like in spain).

Also if Ireland is so bad, why did 5000 spainards come to Dublin last year for work?

Tio, de verdad no sabes nada de nada de Irlanda. Vives en tu "utopia", no en la realidad.

Hey op, I think hsi has summed it all up here with 20 years of experience. If you can't accept that then you are deluded and full of your own self importance. I feel sorry for your Spanish neighbours, they must think you are a real tit.

Ronin247

GizAGoOfYerGee wrote: »

..........................................I don't want my child knowing that I came from such a horrible country.

GizAGoOfYerGee wrote: »

......................................................I do not want my children to know that their father is from Ireland, and have to deal with all the negative conotations that go with it...................

So you live in a box room which you pay E300 per month for which you cannot afford and you have a child or children,hiding under the bed no doubt.

Probably a 30 year old spotty friendless virgin doing a TEFL program and out trolling on a saturday night because nothing else to do.

problemchimp

Hill Billy wrote: »

OP - 'Your lady' must be very special if she is happy for you to live in such crappy digs (http://m.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056170960).

¿Where are the kids who will never be allowed come to Ireland going to fit?

Hill Billy got you there pal, sussed out. snigger snigger, living in a shoe box!

FreudianSlippers

Ok ok... I'm here now. WTF is going on here?


Why would anyone want to move to Spain? It's full of Spanish people

HalloweenJack

aDeener wrote: »

there are few things more pathetic than someone changing their accent. congratulations

How is it changing his accent?

He's speaking a different language with different pronunciations. For instance, in Spanish, que is pronounced kay, whereas, the same spelling in English would sound like the white ball in snooker.

Of course, it's not going to sound the same.

problemchimp

m@cc@ wrote: »

You see, this is the problem with boards, you'll always get one cnut who'll trawl through your previous posts.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=70072684&postcount=31

Jesus, this just gets better. You really are a tit! Close this thread for the love of God, at least until his carer gives him permission to use the computer.

tfitzgerald

I would love to move to Spain but there is no way I would be hiding the fact I am Irish and any one who wants to has obviously mixed up there tablets again

Reason like to move to Spain is asthma weather is good for that

Alessandra

Sure it's a bad time in Ireland now. I'm an emigrant myself. That doesn't stop me however from being proud of the fine education I received and the culture and heritage of my country.

So you would be more proud to be Spanish than Irish? Fairplay to you! Let them have you.

NWPat

All nations are social constructs based in belief of shared myths. If the op wants to swap one set of myths for another, let him be. If your nationality is the most important thing in your life then there can be very little else in it.

Sunnyisland

The op hasent a clue what he wants or what he is doing, let him go he might get a job in a bull ring.

Sunnyisland

The op hasent a clue what he wants or what he is doing, let him go he might get a job in a bull ring. seems he talks so much of it.

Kasabian

Ah bless there is nothing like a troll on a Sunday Morning before breakfast.

Gets the heart beating.

Noffles

Dunno about renouncing being Irish... just laugh when asked where you're from and tell them... you can then tell tales of the "home country" and why you live somewhere else... good for conversation?

Just never come back here... as do an awful lot of "proud" Irish people, love the country but wouldn't live in it... ****ty, rural, expensive and run by robbers...

opinion guy

I'm curious.

OP why were you forced to leave in 2001?
Why were you forced to leave in 2007 ?
Why are you trying to sever all connections to home ?
Why do you not want your family to ever see your kids ?

In short....what are you running away from ?

The Hill Billy

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

Ok ok... I'm here now. WTF is going on here?


Why would anyone want to move to Spain? It's full of Spanish people

Nice of you to join us.

If you do decide to leave (as per other thread), Spain needs you to bring the overall Irish ex-pat IQ back to acceptable levels.

(I had forgotten how much fun AH could be. Must come here more often.)

nosey rosie

I don't blame anyone for renouncing their Irish citizenship... us and Greece are the scandal tales of Europe... both had corrupt, inept politicians voted into office.

We arrived where we are, for a reason.

The Hill Billy

opinion guy wrote: »

I'm curious.

Off-topic. Try the Sex & Sexuality forum.

opinion guy wrote:

Why do you not want your family to ever see your kids ?

I'd imagine it is because they'd be spanish & ginger & stunted from being reared in a shoe-box apartment. * shudder *

Irish Guitarist

GizAGoOfYerGee wrote: »

I hate what Ireland has become and I don't want to be part of it. I want out. I don't want to be Irish. Why is that bad?

If I had children and they told me they were ashamed of their country and family I'd be pretty pissed off.

If you asked someone to read your post but obscured the word "Ireland" and didn't tell them what year this was written, they would be forgiven for thinking you were talking about Nazi Germany.

What will you do when you discover Spain isn't perfect by the way? Will you keep denouncing your citizenship of every country you live in until you find some ideal Utopia?

By the way, you should consider changing your name to "DameUnIrDeLaVagina".

EDIT - Having read your post again it sounds like you might have some personal problems that have nothing to do with the economy. I apologise if there's more to why you want to forget your roots than meets the eye.

Gyalist

hsi wrote: »

We are a neutral country and our passport opens a lot of doors.

Had to travel to Afica last year and some countries ask my British friends to pay a $100 visa charge, but Irish passport was free as we give aid to them.

I'd be 100% positive that the reason for the visa charge is because Britain charges them a substantial fee for a visa and not because Ireland is a substantial donor to Africa. After all, Britain is a much larger donor to Africa.


The OP may or may not be trolling but why are people so hyper-sensitive to his claim to want to renounce Irish citizenship? All he asked was what was the procedure and whether anyone else had done it. I've seen people post here before about renouncing Catholicism and their questions were answered without all the vitriol. and, in fact, they were congratulated for taking that step.

nyarlothothep

Its interesting to see that just because someone doesn't want to be Irish even though they're born here elicits so much vitriol from their native peers, its kinda tribalistic. If you've never connected with the culture or people whats to stop you from saying, well I don't regard myself as Irish and therefore don't want to be Irish. Just because you're born on a geographical landmass does not automatically make you this or that nationality, its whether you connect with the culture and choose to define yourself in those terms. Jeez who cares if someone wants to renounce their citizenship, I say more power to you, fck what anyone else thinks, its your choice.

Sunnyisland

nosey rosie wrote: »

I don't blame anyone for renouncing their Irish citizenship... us and Greece are the scandal tales of Europe... both had corrupt, inept politicians voted into office.

We arrived where we are, for a reason.

Even though we have a lot of crap to put up with in this country I would never ever deny to anyone that i am Irish or give up my citizenship,The way to change the country is to get involved and get out and vote, not run away.There is no country in the world that has all the answers .

Kasabian

Wake Biko and Micky, we need a lock.

Kasabian

nosey rosie wrote: »

I don't blame anyone for renouncing their Irish citizenship... us and Greece are the scandal tales of Europe... both had corrupt, inept politicians voted into office.

We arrived where we are, for a reason.

I for one am proud to be Irish and no skewed political system will change that.

Being Irish is alot more than just politics.

Oranage2

GizAGoOfYerGee wrote: »

I was forced abroad to the UK in 2001, after the LC, for 4 years, then in Ireland for 3 years (the most miserable 3 years of my life), and then to Spain for 3 years, where I am now.

The government agencies I work for here in Spain sped up my application for Spanish citizenship a few months ago, as I have provided them with solid, constant work for the past 3 years.

I now hold a Spanish passport and have no reason to renew my Irish one (expired 2010).

I seriously want to denouce my Irish Citizenship.

I do not want my children to know that their father is from Ireland, and have to deal with all the negative conotations that go with it.

I know the process, but I'm asking for advice on this. Has anyone done this before, and are other Irish emmigrants doing this?

I want to go right ahead and do it, but my parents, siblings and friends are going nuts over my decision.

I hate what Ireland has become and I don't want to be part of it. I want out. I don't want to be Irish. Why is that bad?

I still don't see how you were forced to leave during the good ole boom year of 2001? Unemployment was at like 5% so if you couldn't find a job then perhaps your weren't forced to move, you're just part of that bottom 5% and just not smart enough to be here, in which case we dont want you here!

Kasabian

Without reading the thread.

My off the wall theory is that the OP is a lesbian that has left this country with another woman and kids and her family are not best pleased with the situation.

:pac:

Mammanabammana

Marcusm wrote: »

You clearly haven't abandoned being Irish given your username. I doubt that there's a person outside Ireland who could understand it yet you count to it. Maybe subconsciously this is a cry for help?

When I first saw the OPs username I thought it was a girl who thought her gee wasn't goofy enough....

johnmcdnl

what happens when your child has to do a bit about their family history?? are you going to lie to them...????

Noffles

Kasabian wrote: »

I for one am proud to be Irish and no skewed political system will change that.

Being Irish is alot more than just politics.

Quite right,Ireland has a lot less to offer than that... less jobs, less money, less public transport, less infrastructure

And.. oh wait, there's more.. More Taxes, more price hikes, more costs for literally anything...

You tell em, it's lot more than Politics!!

MANUTD99

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJl80_DEWI0

Is this you?

Kasabian

Noffles wrote: »

Quite right,Ireland has a lot less to offer than that... less jobs, less money, less public transport, less infrastructure

And.. oh wait, there's more.. More Taxes, more price hikes, more costs for literally anything...

You tell em, it's lot more than Politics!!

That anger will in the long term hurt you.

m@cc@

Noffles wrote: »

Quite right,Ireland has a lot less to offer than that... less jobs, less money, less public transport, less infrastructure

And.. oh wait, there's more.. More Taxes, more price hikes, more costs for literally anything...

You tell em, it's lot more than Politics!!

That's another s*** thing about Ireland at the moment, people who can't wait to reference the state of the economy in every conversation.

There were times when we had a lot less than we have now, we were still proud to be Irish though. Money has corrupted us.

Noffles

m@cc@ wrote: »

That's another s*** thing about Ireland at the moment, people who can't wait to reference the state of the economy in every conversation.

There were times when we had a lot less than we have now, we were still proud to be Irish though. Money has corrupted us.

So having more money in the economy is corrupt... lol the way the Irish got it I suppose yes.... I stand corrected

m@cc@

Noffles wrote: »

So having more money in the economy is corrupt... lol the way the Irish got it I suppose yes.... I stand corrected

Try reading what's has been written instead of commenting like some Daily Fail blogger.

gene the cow

who dsnt want to live in Ireland and be Irish where the greatest country ever.

Mike 1972

Oranage2 wrote: »

I still don't see how you were forced to leave during the good ole boom year of 2001? !

Cost of living maybe ?

Booms can be pretty overrated

Standman

i dunno what this op's on about, i think ireland is pure class!!!

smk89

GizAGoOfYerGee wrote: »

I seriously want to denouce my Irish Citizenship.

I'd love to see the meeting for that one

Interviewer: Well its a shame that you are giving up your citizenship, all we need now is your Irish card and your new address to send your shipment of potatos... i mean severance package

Claudia5

Well I would love to become Irish citizen & love Irish guys !!

Claudia

GizAGoOfYerGee wrote: »

I was forced abroad to the UK in 2001, after the LC, for 4 years, then in Ireland for 3 years (the most miserable 3 years of my life), and then to Spain for 3 years, where I am now.

The government agencies I work for here in Spain sped up my application for Spanish citizenship a few months ago, as I have provided them with solid, constant work for the past 3 years.

I now hold a Spanish passport and have no reason to renew my Irish one (expired 2010).

I seriously want to denouce my Irish Citizenship.

I do not want my children to know that their father is from Ireland, and have to deal with all the negative conotations that go with it.

I know the process, but I'm asking for advice on this. Has anyone done this before, and are other Irish emmigrants doing this?

I want to go right ahead and do it, but my parents, siblings and friends are going nuts over my decision.

I hate what Ireland has become and I don't want to be part of it. I want out. I don't want to be Irish. Why is that bad?

Duckworth_Luas

Claudia5 wrote: »

Well I would love to become Irish citizen & love Irish guys !!

Claudia

You see OP, being Irish always ends with sexy results!

Good luck in Spain!

nosey rosie

No matter what anyone says...taking an honest look at it... we're a fu**ed up country... and we did this to ourselves.

I say, emigrate to a northern ( honest ) protestant country... look how they managed the recent years,compared to us. No arguement, really.

Duckworth_Luas

nosey rosie wrote: »

No matter what anyone says...taking an honest look at it... we're a fu**ed up country... and we did this to ourselves.

I say, emigrate to a northern ( honest ) protestant country... look how they managed the recent years,compared to us. No arguement, really.

Iceland?

bonerjams03

GizAGoOfYerGee wrote: »

I do not want my children to know that their father is from Ireland, and have to deal with all the negative conotations that go with it.
:

Why the outright shame? People like you annoy me, just constant negativity about things like Irishness, could you not dwell on something more worthwhile.

And what negative connotations? What has Ireland become. OMG! A recession! Spain is pretty much as ****ed as here.

To be honest, I'd be glad if you weren't Irish anymore, we don't need another moan.

Claudia5

What basis do you say is a fu**ed up country !!!!

Claudia

nosey rosie wrote: »

No matter what anyone says...taking an honest look at it... we're a fu**ed up country... and we did this to ourselves.

I say, emigrate to a northern ( honest ) protestant country... look how they managed the recent years,compared to us. No arguement, really.

opinion guy

Claudia5 wrote: »

Well I would love to become Irish citizen & love Irish guys !!

Claudia

Claudia5 wrote: »

What basis do you say is a fu**ed up country !!!!

Claudia

Are you the OP's Irish man loving inner female alterego that he's trying to run away from ?