The Latest Independent - Eamonn Blaney & the New Vision

NewVision

Scofflaw wrote: »

They haven't really had any presence on Boards (unlike, say, Amhran Nua), but politics.ie has generally tracked their movements for at least the last year or so since their inaugural meeting at the Teacher's Club. Obviously if one is a Green, one is more likely to have noticed them, since elements of their founding membership would have been Greens upset with the actions of the party in coalition.

I have to say I strongly regret that the rather sudden election has caught quite a few new political groupings and movements on the hop. I wish them all the best in the election, but rather more I wish them all the best in continuing after the election whatever their success in this rather too brief window of public attention.

cordially,
Scofflaw

You are getting it quite straight, Scofflaw. The reason why I stopped posting here and getting FÍS NUA more known to the people was getting banned two times for (IMO) minor issues.

But don't you worry. E.g. Politics.ie have not accepted FÍS NUA as a legitimate party yet (but they have never banned me from their forum).

I believe in evolution. So even if FÍS NUA hasn't come out with candidates in every single constituency (keep in mind that the official spark of getting a party was just in September 2010) we are now part of a change in Irish politics. Rome wasn't built in one day. And the need for as sustainable future does much too often vanish behind popular demands.

After that disaster with the "Green" Party it was more than overdue to create an alternative, an alternative to the 'established' parties and an alternative to the "Greens".

Just to give you back a little bit of a taste of my own political history and how I was feeling more than a year ago here is my open letter to John Gormley concerning the disassociation of the Donegal Greens of the "Green" Party Ireland.

If you are familiar with the (so called) principles of the "Green" Party you will find now why every new member of FÍS NUA has to sign for our Principles when joining our party.

We just haven't lost faith in the believe that a sustainable society is possible and of course this has to be "green" (if you will). We believe in a New Vision for a sustainable future

CDfm

AvaKinder wrote: »

Mr. Blaney finally responded to one of my emails :



Not particularly helpful IMO.

It is a cryptic political answer and your question are on a very specific issue.

Somehow I dont think you were expecting an answer and he wasm't willing to get entrapped into giving you one.



@newvision I have enjoyed reading your & Mary Attenboroughs posts and while I may not agree with you politically I have learned more about your policies here than elsewhere. I think you have articulated them well and you do come across as nice people too. After reading your letter to John Gormley I am a lot more informed and found myself thinking "yes he has a point here". You haven't converted me but you have made me more open minded to Fis Nua

AvaKinder

CDfm wrote: »

It is a cryptic political answer and your question are on a very specific issue.

Somehow I dont think you were expecting an answer and he wasm't willing to get entrapped into giving you one.

I'm not sure why you think I wasn't really expecting an answer.

I sent the same list of questions to Jimmy Guerin, Raymond Sexton, and Brian Greene and got a fairly clear response from Greene and Guerin, while Sextons response was very wishy washy.

CDfm

Political hot potato on the same sex marriage and adoption.

I would love to see the responses you got.

I am curious why you didn't email all the candidates as that would seem fairer ?

Here they are

http://www.thejournal.ie/election-candidates-2011/dublin-north-east/

It would be very interesting to see what kind of responses you would get from those leading the polls

NewVision

CDfm wrote: »

@newvision I have enjoyed reading your & Mary Attenboroughs posts and while I may not agree with you politically I have learned more about your policies here than elsewhere. I think you have articulated them well and you do come across as nice people too. After reading your letter to John Gormley I am a lot more informed and found myself thinking "yes he has a point here". You haven't converted me but you have made me more open minded to Fis Nua

Thank you for your open minded comment, CDfm.

Eamonn Blaney

NewVision wrote: »

Fact is that those 'New Vision' people have stolen the name from FÍS NUA, a party that exists since last summer and is now registered for all Irish and European elections.

Mr. Blaney submitted an application form dated 26th January 2011 to register the business name "NewVision" and stated on the application form that the nature of the business being carried on under that name was "Promotions". He did not include any reference in his application to "Political Party".

Maybe they should have googled before claiming the name of an already existing party. Not a good "promotion".

Ja'sus wept! What will it take for you to understand the following FACTS? ;

1. New Vision & Newvision.ie are registered trademarks and names belonging to me.

2. New Vision (as the name suggests) is a new way of doing politics in Ireland. We agree on a number of issues that are of critical strategic importance to our Country and also agree to vote accordingly.

3. NewVision.ie is in the business of information collation, dissemination and distribution. We have never claimed to be a political party.

4. When I thought of the name and checked if the URL was available, there was no mention of any other 'New Vision' either online or registered with the Companies Registration Office.

Now, is that clear enough ?

Eamonn Blaney

Dublin North East, Me Bollix!

http://www.EamonnBlaney.com

Dr Mary Attenborough

Eamonn Blaney wrote: »

Ja'sus wept! What will it take for you to understand the following FACTS? ;

1. New Vision & Newvision.ie are registered trademarks and names belonging to me.

2. New Vision (as the name suggests) is a new way of doing politics in Ireland. We agree on a number of issues that are of critical strategic importance to our Country and also agree to vote accordingly.

3. NewVision.ie is in the business of information collation, dissemination and distribution. We have never claimed to be a political party.

4. When I thought of the name and checked if the URL was available, there was no mention of any other 'New Vision' either online or registered with the Companies Registration Office.

Now, is that clear enough ?

Eamonn Blaney

I have already replied at length on this point.
See http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=70607866&postcount=29

You have only registered a business name. That allows you to trade as New Vision (e.g. you could open an opticians) not operate as a political grouping using the name. Business name registration does not authorise the use of the name if its use could be prohibited for other reasons.

In this case use of the name 'New Vision' by any other grouping in the election is prohibited because we have officially registered our political party Fís Nua with the Registrar of Political Parties (who is also the Clerk of the Dáil). Fís Nua translates to New Vision in English. We registered in the Irish version of the name as Irish is the first language of the state.

Basically you should have looked at the register of political parties, or any pending registrations, not in Company Registrations Office (CRO), to see if the name would be allowed. Fianna Fail, Fine Gael and the Labour Party are not registered as businesses either with the CRO. Exactly because it is the wrong place to register political groupings.

You do not have a registered trade mark. I have also checked for the registered trademark listings. Perhaps you would like to tell us your trade mark registration number? Even if you had it would not be relevant as trade marks are used for commercial purposes. There is no trademark classification for political parties.

We have asked you repeatedly to stop using the name 'New Vision' as you have not right to use the name for your unregistered group of independents.

AvaKinder

CDfm wrote: »

Political hot potato on the same sex marriage and adoption.

I would love to see the responses you got.

I am curious why you didn't email all the candidates as that would seem fairer ?

I didn't ask all the candidates as the main/large parties are all fairly clear on their stance on most of the issues I asked about. The candidates I emailed were the ones I know very little about.

CDfm

AvaKinder wrote: »

I didn't ask all the candidates as the main/large parties are all fairly clear on their stance on most of the issues I asked about. The candidates I emailed were the ones I know very little about.

That answers that question & I am no clearer where they stand or you stand from your answer.

On the issue of Family Law, non of the political parties have tackled the unfair treatment of men even though it is supposedly the case at law, so, I doubt any of the major paties are in any way commited to policies on same sex marriage or adoption.

I just can't see it being up on their list of priorities.

I have to agree with Eamonn Brady here that some issues are matters of conscience and the adoption of party political adversorial politics on these issues is a bit beyond me.

I heard him on radio - but how did he perform on the box

AvaKinder

I'm not sure what you mean by not being clear on my stance?

Anywho, here are the responses I recieved :

Raymond Sexton, Ind:

Jacqueline,

• Everyone should be able to live a life of liberty and the pursuit of happiness thus I am very positive towards resolving all issues affecting the LGBT while ensuring we do not infringe anyone elses rights. In terms of children: All children should be cherished equally thus there should be no barriers to their wellbeing. In truth I'd like a chance to discuss the details more with a group of interested people. I plan on touring all the Coffee shops in Dublin North East in the next two weeks so if we connect we should have a good debate and then I'm happy to update my Website with my consdered opinion. I'm not a career politician thus I do not have stock answers.
• In the words of Pearse: Educate that we be free! Education should be free for those that can't afford it and there should be an incremental scale for the better off. I got the Local Authority Grant when I went to UCC and I apprecaited it! I think students need to have open access but they should have some 'skin in the game'. If others re paying for it, they should use the opportunity wisely and work hard and grasp the opportunity.
• Everything is about choice so we need to provide education with or without an ethos depending on the wishes of the parents.
• Let's focus on building Enterprise and Jobs and growing revenues and becoming more competitive. The minimum wage should always retain its buying power, I'd rather a reduction in Property Rents which would take the pressure off Employers. The minimum wage was an easy target and should be reversed. Employers should get the saving from the Banks/Landlords/Government etc.

Regards

Raymond

Jimmy Guerin, Ind:

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Hi Jacqueline


[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If I may because of time constraints I will deal with your queries on a point by point basis [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]hope this is OK [/FONT]




[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]My name is Jacqueline Murphy and I'm a constituent in the area you are running in. I have a number of issues which I would like to find out your position on in order to make an informed decision on election day.

As a member of the LGBT community, I am very interested to hear your opinion on the subject of the rights of LGBT people to marry, and to have their families protected under law. Can you please clarify your position on the introduction of civil marriage (not civil partnership) [/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I fully support the rights of all people to choose their partner and their having the right to a civil marriage. I feel it is irrelevant that they are gay are heterosexual . This should not interfere with what I believe is a basic right.[/FONT]




[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]and adoption rights for gay couples and non biological same sex partners? [/FONT]Will you support the abolition of section 37?


I believe that one a child is being adopted by a loving couple who are suitable for adoption then they should be allowed adopt. I do not believe that the status of the couple is relevant but would feel that there are both gay and heterosexual couples who for one reason or another may not be suitable.
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Also, will you make it a priority to push any Government for legislation regarding the X Case ruling?


I would push hard that the legislation regarding the x case which has been avoided be implemented. I personally was disturbed at the recent judgement where a critically ill woman had to travel overseas for a termination when it was important to her own health that she be allowed.





[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I would also be interested in hearing your position on the possible re-introduction of fees for 3rd level in Ireland, [/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] have two children attending collage and believe that funding for education is a duty of the state and it should be regarded as strategic investment. No fees should be introduced. [/FONT]






[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]the provision of secular primary education for students [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I do not understand this question[/FONT]




[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]and the new minimum wage. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]See enclosed policy document where I want it reinstated to previous level [/FONT]




[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Sincerely [/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Jimmy Guerin [/FONT]

[/FONT]
And Brian Greene, Socialist Party :

Hi Jacqueline see answers inline

Many thanks for the ask, my brevity of answers is because the
questions are very clear and our position is absolute, no need to flaf
about with the answers.

Some LGBT issues covered by the Socialist Party are here
http://url.ie/96qm particularly this article from 2009
http://url.ie/96qr

Thanks for asking, Regards Brian Greene

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Brian Greene
085 711 6466

On 18 February 2011 15:06, wrote:
>
> My name is Jacqueline Murphy and I'm a constituent in the area you are
> running in. I have a number of issues which I would like to find out your
> position on in order to make an informed decision on election day.
>
> As a member of the LGBT community, I am very interested to hear your opinion
> on the subject of the rights of LGBT people to marry, and to have their
> families protected under law. Can you please clarify your position on the
> introduction of civil marriage (not civil partnership) and adoption rights
> for gay couples and non biological same sex partners? Will you support the
> abolition of section 37?

Yes I support the right to marry for all people.I think you can get
married in NI and have it recognised in Republic of Ireland. Irish
solution to Irish problem. Down with that... full rights now. And with
regard to employment I would like to see section 37 abolished.

> Also, will you make it a priority to push any Government for legislation
> regarding the X Case ruling?

X case proves that the parties of establishment FG DL Lab & FF all had
the power to enact legislation after X case but did not. It should be
a priority after the 1/3 ruling from Europe recently.

> I would also be interested in hearing your position on the possible
> re-introduction of fees for 3rd level in Ireland, the provision of secular
> primary education for students and the new minimum wage.

These are black & white issues for me so no need to expand or dance
around the answers.
Separate church & state.
Free education for all. paid for by progressive taxes at income source.
Change minimum wage to reflect inflation. Upward only. Have a maximum
wage too. Reverse all cuts in minimum wage.

> Thank You,

CDfm

@avakinder

On what you say on the LGBT issues - I think most of what you say is very reasonable. High time too.

I also think such rights should apply to all.

The issues on 3rd level education -yes -in an ideal world and if the country can afford it. Currently 25% of people leave the secondary educational system functionally illiterate (cannot read the directions on a packet of aspirin) .

I am a Dad too and will feel the pinch but if some form of contribution is needed we should look at it.

CDfm

My daughter had her blonde moment today & told us that we should vote Indepependent because she believes the country should be Independent.

She's 17 -where have I gone wrong

AvaKinder

I got that beat! My uncle asked my 21 year oldcousin the week of the second lisbon treaty referendum if she knew what the vote was about, and what way she was voting.

Her reply: Yeah, I've to vote for that Obama fella don't I?

CDfm

LOL

CDfm

I heard that the Mail had estimated the independents will get a derisory percentage of the votes. The equivalent of 60 votes a piece. I think Eamonn is worth more than that.

So here is wishing Eamonn the best in his campaign and we do need articulate and level headed people in the Dail and who present well in the media.

Candidate links are here for the Independents t/a New Vision

http://newvision.ie/wordpress/

I always think that countries and economies are run on small things not just the big high falutin stuff of election campaigns.

Elmo

CDfm wrote: »

I heard that the Mail had estimated the independents will get a derisory percentage of the votes. The equivalent of 60 votes a piece. I think Eamonn is worth more than that.

Don't think you should beleive everything you read in the mail. However....

It is likely that many "FF" voters will be attracted to them only to give their number 2 to FF. Don't be surprised if FF get 20 seats because of it

CDfm

Elmo wrote: »

Don't think you should beleive everything you read in the mail. However....

It is likely that many "FF" voters will be attracted to them only to give their number 2 to FF. Don't be surprised if FF get 20 seats because of it

Eamonn is a good man & it would be great if he is elected.

CDfm

CDfm wrote: »

Eamonn is a good man & it would be great if he is elected.

Eamonn didn't get in and I would hate to think this is the last we hear of him.

How did Fis Nua do ?

brendankelly

Not good. But on the up side it was a learning process and we will be better prepared for the next election. However we are having good success highlighting the sale of our natural resources. The woodlandleague petition has shot from a handful to now over 18,000 with our people been interviewed. It was even mentioned on the Late Late show last Friday night.

brendankelly

The Woodlandleague petition has now topped 20,000 and rising. One mention on the Late Late saw it sky rocket. If Forestry and Aarhus had been mentioned during the election we would be in a much better position.