Ireland v Wales - Nations Cup - 08/02/11 - 7:45PM

Nailz · 08-02-2011 9:21pm

Liam O wrote: »

I think Whelan has been very good for Ireland recently. When he broke through I was very against him but he's done a good job, needs a good attacking partner beside him but Trap seems to have told Gibson to hang back too and let the wingers do the attacking.

That may be the case, I'm probably being a bit harsh on Whelan, having my mind made up on him and all that, which I'm not normally like. But I still feel that we could have a lot better midfield partnership if Gio wasn't so stubborn. There's some very good Irish midfielders breaking through at the moment, we need to find an opportunity to field them in a system that works. We've quite a few wingers coming out now, maybe a bit of tinkering with the formation can bring the most out of what we got.

nicklauski · 08-02-2011 9:21pm

Good work from Doyler. Yard or two either side would seriously have worked the keeper. And livened this game up.

Mars Bar · 08-02-2011 9:22pm

Doyle did really well there.

Celly Smunt · 08-02-2011 9:24pm

another Ireland game with a lack of imagination and passion

FlawedGenius · 08-02-2011 9:25pm

If Doyle had pace.....:eek:

Celly Smunt · 08-02-2011 9:26pm

FlawedGenius wrote: »

If Doyle had pace.....:eek:

if pigs could fly! :P

Mars Bar · 08-02-2011 9:26pm

Clark and Coleman combining. Lovely to see it!

LuckyGent88 · 08-02-2011 9:26pm

should have got that on target.

nicklauski · 08-02-2011 9:26pm

Duff with a great ball across there. No midfield back ing up the play.

Well worked free kick and a nice effort from Clark. He's looked good so far.

Liam O · 08-02-2011 9:27pm

Nailz wrote: »

That may be the case, I'm probably being a bit harsh on Whelan, having my mind made up on him and all that, which I'm not normally like. But I still feel that we could have a lot better midfield partnership if Gio wasn't so stubborn. There's some very good Irish midfielders breaking through at the moment, we need to find an opportunity to field them in a system that works. We've quite a few wingers coming out now, maybe a bit of tinkering with the formation can bring the most out of what we got.

I wouldn't mind trying Clark out as a CM beside McCarthy in the next group of friendlies. Clark has looked good there for Villa but the chances of Trap even considering it are slim to none I'd say.

FlawedGenius · 08-02-2011 9:27pm

If Coleman keeps doing what hes doing and doesnt make any bad mistakes he cant be dropped for Macedonia game imo.

LuckyGent88 · 08-02-2011 9:28pm

Coleman is a great bit of stuff

IRISHSPORTSGUY · 08-02-2011 9:28pm

I'd peddle Walters and the appalling (yet again) central midfield at half-time.

Mars Bar · 08-02-2011 9:28pm

FlawedGenius wrote: »

If Coleman keeps doing what hes doing and doesnt make any bad mistakes he cant be dropped for Macedonia game imo.

Which inevitably means he will be

applehunter · 08-02-2011 9:32pm

Fahey and Long on 2nd half for me.

LuckyGent88 · 08-02-2011 9:33pm

FlawedGenius wrote: »

If Coleman keeps doing what hes doing and doesnt make any bad mistakes he cant be dropped for Macedonia game imo.

I would presume McGeady will come back into team, so doubt he will keep coleman in the team as much as i would like him to be in it unless he keeps either keane or doyle out of team.

LuckyLloyd · 08-02-2011 9:35pm

Very poor performance. Wales are awful, but we've not put them under anywhere near enough pressure. No fluidity, no hustle, loads of silly individual errors. Shocking.

Mars Bar · 08-02-2011 9:35pm

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

I would presume McGeady will come back into team, so doubt he will keep coleman in the team as much as i would like him to be in it unless he keeps either keane or doyle out of team.

McGeady? Forgot he even existed...

McGeady will be back on the right and Lawrence will be on the bench and Coleman will be nowhere to be seen.

Raskolnikov · 08-02-2011 9:37pm

That half shows that without Keane, we struggle to get into scoring positions.

IRISHSPORTSGUY · 08-02-2011 9:38pm

Same old story, badly lacking a playmaker.

newballsplease · 08-02-2011 9:38pm

how could any sane person consider playin mcgeady or lawerence ahead of coleman on their current form

LuckyLloyd · 08-02-2011 9:39pm

Raskolnikov wrote: »

That half shows that without Keane, we struggle to get into scoring positions.

People like to pretend that Keane does nothing, and it is all Doyle. Doyle is a great target, but without Keane we have nothing in the way of creativity, no-one moving intelligently off him.

jonnyfingers · 08-02-2011 9:40pm

To me Gibson and Whelan seem too alike to work together. Both like to get a ball short and play an equally short pass. Neither will break forward to join the attack. That leaves little option but for our wingers to beat their man and get a cross in, or a ball straight into the forwards and hope that they can do something.

We really need someone else in midfield who can drive forward with the play. Who do we have on the bench?

Liam O · 08-02-2011 9:41pm

Raskolnikov wrote: »

That half shows that without Keane, we struggle to get into scoring positions.

Tbf Doyle is more of a midfield combatant playing up front than a striker imo, for all his hard work his positioning isn't great and Walters isn't the type of partner he needs. Best has yet to be really tried out beside Doyle and his recent form warrants giving him a chance imo.

Dolph Starbeam · 08-02-2011 9:42pm

newballsplease wrote: »

how could any sane person consider playin mcgeady or lawerence ahead of coleman on their current form

Well they are on a break in Russia so it is hard to judge McGeadys current form, and he finished last season very well too. He will come back into right midfield imo and Coleman will play right back, depending on the opposition of course.

PaddyBomb · 08-02-2011 9:43pm

Is that the trophy behind them? I thought it was a cup full of hightlighters and magic markers.

newballsplease · 08-02-2011 9:44pm

MOG7 wrote: »

Well they are on a break in Russia so it is hard to judge McGeadys current form, and he finished last season very well too. He will come back into right midfield imo and Coleman will play right back, depending on the opposition of course.

dont think trap would play coleman at RB without seeing him play there first.

Liam O · 08-02-2011 9:44pm

newballsplease wrote: »

how could any sane person consider playin mcgeady or lawerence ahead of coleman on their current form

McGeady has done pretty well for himself in Russia, Duff, even though he is a legend should be the one to make way imo

jonnyfingers wrote: »

To me Gibson and Whelan seem too alike to work together. Both like to get a ball short and play an equally short pass. Neither will break forward to join the attack. That leaves little option but for our wingers to beat their man and get a cross in, or a ball straight into the forwards and hope that they can do something.

We really need someone else in midfield who can drive forward with the play. Who do we have on the bench?

It's Trap's system, you could have Xavi and iniesta in there and he'd still make them play as deep lying CMs.

Mars Bar · 08-02-2011 9:44pm

MOG7 wrote: »

Well they are on a break in Russia so it is hard to judge McGeadys current form, and he finished last season very well too. He will come back into right midfield imo and Coleman will play right back, depending on the opposition of course.

then shift JOS over to LB and play Clark in CB or midfield...

newballsplease · 08-02-2011 9:44pm

PaddyBomb wrote: »

Is that the trophy behind them? I thought it was a cup full of hightlighters and magic markers.

poor effort. must do better!

Pauleta · 08-02-2011 9:46pm

PaddyBomb wrote: »

Is that the trophy behind them? I thought it was a cup full of hightlighters and magic markers.

Its the ugliest trophy ive ever seen

Johner · 08-02-2011 9:47pm

Liam O wrote: »

It's Trap's system, you could have Xavi and iniesta in there and he'd still make them play as deep lying CMs.

They are too attack minded, they would be on the bench.

jonnyfingers · 08-02-2011 9:47pm

Liam O wrote: »

It's Trap's system, you could have Xavi and iniesta in there and he'd still make them play as deep lying CMs.

Unfortunately you're right.

cantgetright · 08-02-2011 9:48pm

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

I'd peddle Walters and the appalling (yet again) central midfield at half-time.

Thats your own buisness..

Mars Bar · 08-02-2011 9:48pm

Long is coming on, yay!

But for Doyle.

roryc · 08-02-2011 9:49pm

Anyone have the attendance. Looks to be pretty low.

gustafo · 08-02-2011 9:52pm

roryc wrote: »

Anyone have the attendance. Looks to be pretty low.

About 15000 if there lucky, cant really blame people to go and watch that crap

IRISHSPORTSGUY · 08-02-2011 9:52pm

Will be dead annoying if we don't try Fahey and/or Wilson, central midfield is the huge problem area and it's just getting more and more irritating the longer Trap blanks the problem.

Mars Bar · 08-02-2011 9:54pm

AW Long!

LuckyGent88 · 08-02-2011 9:55pm

should have done better with that finish. Much better stuff from Whelan

IRISHSPORTSGUY · 08-02-2011 9:55pm

Should have hit the target at least.

PaddyBomb · 08-02-2011 9:55pm

Great run from Duff. Should have done better Long.

Mars Bar · 08-02-2011 9:56pm

Idiots.

LuckyGent88 · 08-02-2011 9:57pm

these 2 boys have provided the most entertainment in this match

newballsplease · 08-02-2011 9:58pm

its gas when no security men were running after them...

Mars Bar · 08-02-2011 9:59pm

Shocking tackle.

gustafo · 08-02-2011 9:59pm

Sean St. Ledger really is USELESS

roryc · 08-02-2011 10:00pm

Fans on the pitch... no surprise really

Mars Bar · 08-02-2011 10:00pm

gustafo wrote: »

Sean St. Ledger really is USELESS

He wins a lot of headers though. He has scored two headers too...

PaddyBomb · 08-02-2011 10:00pm

Is there a reason why we're not wearing our green jersey?

Ireland v Wales - Nations Cup - 08/02/11 - 7:45PM

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