Mysterious Fish, Bird and animal deaths

I posted on this story yesterday, Weird as F***.

trying to say wind may be the cause?

Methane, more like.

Dave!

Jake1 wrote: »

I posted on this story yesterday, Weird as F***.

trying to say wind may be the cause?

Methane, more like.

What do you mean? Sounds like a reasonable explanation. There was a storm off the coast with strong winds, as well as a school of migrating whales, which forced the fish to seek shelter. The huge numbers struggled to escape, exhausted the oxygen, and so suffocated.

It is acknowledged that it's rare and unusual, though.

uprising2

Dave! wrote: »

What do you mean? Sounds like a reasonable explanation. There was a storm off the coast with strong winds, as well as a school of migrating whales, which forced the fish to seek shelter. The huge numbers struggled to escape, exhausted the oxygen, and so suffocated.

It is acknowledged that it's rare and unusual, though.

Is it only anchovies that need to shelter from winds and whales?, why wasn't there an assortment of dead fish?

Monty Burnz

uprising2 wrote: »

Is it only anchovies that need to shelter from winds and whales?, why wasn't there an assortment of dead fish?

Perhaps there are vastly larger numbers of anchovies in those waters than other fish, and the dead whales are easy to spot, as they are...whales.

Dave!

Dunno -- fish travel in schools, so other fish might have been disinclined to try and petentrate a group of a million anchovies? And just because that particular school sought refuge in that area doesn't mean that others will follow them or something -- maybe the other schools found some rocks to hide behind?

I'm no fish expert, but it sounds superficially reasonable to me.

Brown Bomber

over a hundred beached Whales in New Zealand 48 hours before the Christchurch earthquake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaWYc9Lq4-M

Monty Burnz

Brown Bomber wrote: »

over a hundred beached Whales in New Zealand 48 hours before the Christchurch earthquake.

So are you leaning towards natural causes on this one? Although of course we are missing a causal link between the mass-beaching and the earthquake.

Yitzhak Rabin

A load of swans are dying or dead in the grand canal in Dublin. Probably a pollutant I'd say, as there are a load of dead fish too.

humanji

I read about that. They're claiming that swans are very suseptible to bacteria, so what ever killed the fish, quickly got to them. Bizarre.

Mahatma coat

So what got the Fish, specifically??

caseyann

They said a toxin caused them to swim into the harbour.

But the discovery of domoic acid in dead fish — reported Friday by USC biologists — could help explain why millions of sardines swam into the harbor in the first place.http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-dead-fish-20110312,0,5066789.story?track=rss

Still think its very weird,why so many animals sea and air are dropping dead.

Domoic acid is often found in the stomachs of fish that have been feeding on plankton on the ocean's surface during toxic algae blooms. The toxin has been linked to neurological disorders, illnesses and deaths of seabirds, sea lions, sea otters and whales. When it accumulates in edible fish and shellfish, it can sicken humans.
So all of a sudden they are all dying because of this,i would believe it if we werent seeing mass deaths of them along with Earthquakes and tsunami's and volcanic eruptions.

Dave!

I've seen it claimed here before, but never looked into it -- does anyone have actual studies/figures/statistics that show that mass deaths have increased this year on previous years?

I'm genuinely curious, because for all I know this could just be a case of the media suddenly taking an interest in these things, and so reporting them when they haven't given them much attention before.

Regardless of whether there's been an increase or not, I don't see any 'conspiracy' here, so I'm just curious really.

Mahatma coat

something like this Dave?????

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uprising2 wrote: »

2011 Mass Animal Death*
This map is for (Mass Animal Death) for the year 2011, its 17th February:eek:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=214033381917754770249.00049a0687a13e7bf2bc8&ll=16.641504,-128.935547&spn=179.377846,128.671875&z=1

2005

2006

2007

2008

2009

2010

2010 map is here http://bit.ly/g9iNLA
2009 map is here http://bit.ly/f3LEJP
2008 map is here http://bit.ly/hInhx8
2007 map is here http://bit.ly/gcnYcO
2006 map is here http://bit.ly/fhXal3
2005 map is here http://bit.ly/h2ftk9

USGS links to Mass Animal Death
http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/publications/quarterly_reports/

According to these maps of Mass Animal Death, there seems to be a BIG increase in the past couple of years, if you click the first link to 2011 then click on the indicator it gives a brief summary and links.

Then I came across this:
First it was mass animal deaths and now mass animal groupings?

Some fins up! 100,000 sharks mass off Florida's beaches

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1352758/100-000-sharks-mass-Floridas-beaches.html#ixzz1EBVc5j8d

'Super pack' of 400 wolves terrorise remote Russian town after killing 30 horses in just four days

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1354445/Super-pack-400-wolves-kill-30-horses-just-days-remote-Russian-village.html#ixzz1EBVkYb4w

Strange to say the least and seemingly getting stranger.

Overeating and indigestion blamed for 1,000 turtle doves falling dead in Italy with strange blue stain on their beaks

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1344913/Animal-death-mystery-8k-turtle-doves-fall-dead-Italy-blue-stain-beaks.html#ixzz1EBWJuepU

Mass Animal Deaths Remain a Mystery | Special Report
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report/transcript/mass-animal-deaths-remain-mystery

Dave!

It does show an increase in the last couple of years alright, but those reports only give a pretty small sample, so we can't really extrapolate too much from that. The reports only go back to 1995, a window of about 15 years. Not very wide in the grand scheme of things! There could be peaks in the number of mass deaths every 20 years or somethin, but we can't tell from that data.

It does show however that mass deaths in the thousands happen on a regular basis, which we knew of course.

uprising2

There back!

Hundreds of dead starfish wash up on Talybont beach
Several hundred dead starfish have been found washed up on a north Wales beach.
It comes following the discovery at Talybont, between Harlech and Barmouth in Gwynedd.
Council maritime officer Barry Davies said it is common for starfish to be washed ashore during spring tides but it was not clear why they had migrated so far up the shoreline.
Barmouth harbour committee chairman said an inquiry is needed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-12845262

Dave!

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0420/breaking1.html

Hundreds of dolphins found dead

Scientists and Peruvian officials are investigating the mass death of hundreds of dolphins along the South American country’s coast.

A total of 877 dolphin carcasses have been counted recently along the shore in the northern regions of Piura and Lambayeque, deputy environment minister Gabriel Quijandria said.

Officials have been studying possible factors in the dolphins’ deaths including a virus or seismic oil exploration that has recently been carried out off northern Peru.

An analysis of the beached dolphins’ internal organs hasn’t found the sort of symptoms that experts have seen in other cases when dolphins have been affected by seismic tests, Mr Quijandria said in a radio interview. He said experts are studying whether the animals could have succumbed to a virus.

“So far, it’s the most probable hypothesis, and it isn’t the first time it’s happened. There have been cases in Peru, in Mexico, the United States,” Mr Quijandria said.

He said the seismic tests produce underwater noise that can harm dolphins. But he also said that in Peru it is the first time such dolphin deaths have coincided with seismic work and that the dolphins began dying before the tests started.

Carlos Yaipen, who leads the non-governmental organisation Orca, said the beached dolphins began appearing in January.

Dolphins have had broken bones in their ears and some of their organs have been collapsed, suggesting that shock waves generated by the seismic tests could have killed them, Mr Yaipen said.

However, Patricia Majluf, the government’s deputy fisheries minister, said that based on the available evidence officials have not been able to pin down any relationship to oil exploration.

Government officials have said scientists are carrying out further studies that they expect to finish in about two weeks.

outtagetme

yekahS wrote: »

Wait, are you saying that the poles have shifted or that if they shifted that could be a reason?

They've all shifted back to Poland. No jobs in Ireland.

outtagetme

Dave! wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0420/breaking1.html

I read somewhere also that submarines testing their sonar capabilities can totally fcuk up whales and dolphins.

Daffodil.d

First time post here but this is interesting. Dave mentioned earlier in the thread maybe it follows a 20 year thing. Maybe its connected to solar activity. I don't know enough about it but larger amounts of radiation hitting areas where the ozone layer is thinner? The whales were explained. pilot whales have always beached themselves. apparently its a flaw in their design. The follow a "pilot" which often leads them to end up beached.
As regards to the virus suggestions I think it's probably the main explanation. The animal kingdom must have fought different types of viruss through the ages much like humans goin through flu pandemics.

Dude111

I would say most likely HAARP experiments


VERY,VERY SAD

Bray Header

Operation Blackbird seems to be a source of a lot of it..

http://www.conspiracywatch.net/2012/01/usda-admits-to-being-behind-mysterious.html

Monty Burnz

Bray Header wrote: »

Operation Blackbird seems to be a source of a lot of it..

http://www.conspiracywatch.net/2012/01/usda-admits-to-being-behind-mysterious.html

Pest control. We can rule out HAARP for something at last...

Torakx

Unless thats a cover for HAARP experiments.
Either way we know now that government is killing millions of creatures,on top of the millions of humans already being killed.

Monty Burnz

Torakx wrote: »

Unless thats a cover for HAARP experiments.
Either way we know now that government is killing millions of creatures,on top of the millions of humans already being killed.

...or maybe we can't. What was I thinking?

To be fair, government is keeping even more people alive.

Torakx

Lol i hate to be contrary..sometimes i wonder if a nanny state is what we need.
Population is an issue with the current system we have worldwide.Under that system i think it would be better to let people do as they please as long as it harms only themselves and stop trying to lower population through vacinnes,wars,viruses?,economic destabilisation etc.

But then that idea prevents absolute power and control over civilians which doesnt suit psychopaths in power.

Im not saying i think these animal killings are by HAARP, i just dont take anything at all for granted anymore.
Most likely it is as the article said.

Jonny7

Torakx wrote: »

Lol i hate to be contrary..sometimes i wonder if a nanny state is what we need.
Population is an issue with the current system we have worldwide.Under that system i think it would be better to let people do as they please as long as it harms only themselves and stop trying to lower population through vacinnes,wars,viruses?,economic destabilisation etc.

But then that idea prevents absolute power and control over civilians which doesnt suit psychopaths in power.

Im not saying i think these animal killings are by HAARP, i just dont take anything at all for granted anymore.
Most likely it is as the article said.

Some quite extraordinary claims..

Are all governments made up of psychopaths or just some?

In what ways does the Irish government try to lower the population? if so, when did the policy come into force? who knows about it?

Torakx

That depends on wether governments are in control or not.
Each country has a slightly different "setup" as it were, dont you think?
Some have a faschist system others have whats mistakenly (to me) known as a democratic system and so on.
Most if not all are being influenced anyway by money and power behind the scenes.

In the USA alot of legislation is put through congress on behalf of large corperations and focus groups with various intentions on furthering whatever causes they are plugging at the time.

Now a small little country like Ireland may not have a TD who is a psychopath..or may have!
Probably just heartless or just not educated in the right manor to run a country FOR the people,instead of for the profit of themselves and co.

Going back to the USA you have people like the bush's who quite possibly are full blown psychopaths and have a certain amount of sway nationally and internationally,through the organisations and groups they are involved with outside of presidency.

I also did not mention the irish gov lowering population directly,but since you mention it..We are one of the few in the world who still flouridate our water.
I remember one irish politician argueing on an irish political tv show about the flouride issue and how it can cause children to get bone cancer.

Then a few years later he was taking the opposite stance...which coincedently suited the party and strategy he wanted to get elected to,i think minister of health or whatever he was after at the time.
Does it sound like he was in that line of work to help people or make a good living off people?

Here is a youtube vid i found after some searching.
I wanted to show you something that better explained the term psychopath that i used.
If you consider what a psychopath really is(taking out hollywood bullsh1t) you may aknowledge that at least some people in very high positions of power are psychpathic..or display similar behaviour nonetheless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eZxrTm7TUo&feature=related

And another
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hon3AzMO6vs&feature=endscreen

Edit: its my experience on boards that people will try poke holes in my statements for the sake of arguing.
So i would also like to state, im not making a diagnosis.My use of the term psychopath is a generalisation to describe various forms of behaviour that is unsavory and has no place on the world political scene.Or on any scene where peoples lives and happiness are involved.

enno99

watched this a while back good explanation of what a psychopath is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MWpxH-RlFQ

Its on the same line as Torakx put forward