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MMA - You and your training
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08-02-2011 7:28am#1Hey guys, Starting to Go into full time training (Or as much as I can anyway)
Currently from a martial arts sessions I'm Doing
Monday- Kickboxing 2h
Tuesday- Boxing 1 h
Wednesday- Karate & Brazilian Jujitsu 2h
Thursday- Kickboxing 2h
Friday- Brazilian Jujitsu 1h
Sat- Open mat training & Karate Tournament training 4h
Sunday - Free Day
I can also Do a class Saturday mourning but it's more of a Tournament style training, great for Speed and movement. And there is a strength and conditioning class which looks deadly! but ill wait a few weeks till I get into it.
Just wondering To Amateur guys training in MMA What there training is like I'm not really competing but intrested in the training.
and im wondering if this is too much? too little or what
thanks
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bjj-fighter wrote: »Where do you train? Is it a Karate dojo?
What does training full-time actually mean too? Just that you train most days?
I train in K2C Martial arts and Fitness Center, in Blackpool co.cork its not a karate dojo, there is Karate classes held there from my original club (The complex is also owned and ran by that family) but it is a Proper martial arts Facility.
""Good question.
To be saying your training full time id say you need to be putting in 3 2h sessions a day nearly(Not all are going to be intense sessions obviously)""
Yeah I guess saying "Full Time" is an over statement, I Training as often as I can 6 days a week 6 medium to high intensity sessions. + Open Mat Training.
""When are you going to add the MMA training?.""
Em
Do I have to do a session/class called "MMA" to be training in MMA (Mixed Martial Arts)
I always percieved Mixed martial arts (MMA), As a full contact combat sport that allows a wide variety of fighting techniques and skills, from a mixture of other combat sports, to be used in competitions. The rules allow the use of both striking as well as grappling techniques, both while standing and while on the ground. Such competitions allow fighters of different backgrounds to compete.
I don't see why I can't just learn multiple Martial arts and take them into my Fighting/style as many MMA fighters Do.
Such as learning BJJ for Grappling and submissions & ground work (Ne waza) Karate for foot work and speed, Kickboxing for fitness, flexibility
and Working on Kicking technique and power, Boxing for punching technique, Evasion, Fitness and power also.
I would also be doing Judo but the instructors are from macroom (Seamus Manning & Shane Manning)
Great instructors! Shame I dont drive
But I do see how the styles are not interlinked in my current training, maybe Ina month or so I'll take up a class or search for a suitable camp etc. Thanks 0 -
Em Do I have to do a session/class called "MMA" to be training in MMA (Mixed Martial Arts)
I don't think Makikomi meant you should be taking MMA classes but rather when do you plan on adding to your training. It seems your schedule is pretty full already.
Do you perceive that or does wikipedia perceive that?I always percieved Mixed martial arts (MMA), As a full contact combat sport that allows a wide variety of fighting techniques and skills, from a mixture of other combat sports, to be used in competitions. The rules allow the use of both striking as well as grappling techniques, both while standing and while on the ground. Such competitions allow fighters of different backgrounds to compete.
I don't see why I can't just learn multiple Martial arts and take them into my Fighting/style as many MMA fighters Do.
Such as learning BJJ for Grappling and submissions & ground work (Ne waza) Karate for foot work and speed, Kickboxing for fitness, flexibility
and Working on Kicking technique and power, Boxing for punching technique, Evasion, Fitness and power also.
That's all well and good in theory but how do you gel them all together? When do you practice each discipline in an MMA context? For example, you train alot of stand up but how much of that focuses on using boxing/kickboxing to engage the clinch or shoot? I'm assuming your BJJ doesn't incorporate GnP so when do you learn that? When do you practice clinch control, strikes and takedowns?
Your schedule is very full and it doesn't seem like you have much time to add to it unless you've got alot of spare time. Make sure you're doing alot of sparring. You never mentioned if you spar regularly or not. Classes are great to learn techniques, increase power and speed but you would want to be sparring too to really get your timing and techniques down.
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Thanks shazbot,
The only time I get to gel them together is on open mat sessions with my
sparring partners. We do allot of sparring practice in allot of the sessions and Free rolling in BJJ. G&P I practice on a downed punch bag
Clinch control (under hooks etc) I practice with my buddies on open mat sessions, who learn from a MMA coach who teaches the CIT MMA Club, Justin Robbins
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Justin-Robbins-14627
who's style is wrestling and grappling dominant so I get some good training from that. (should really make some time to train in the club again) striking is no problem again with all the stand up sparring I do and from karate and take downs,
I have good experience from Judo sessions and from karate (takedowns, ashi burrais and throws.
I dont have any problems with footwork or timing at the moment, strikes are landing good accuracy & defense from my karate training.
Still im not perfect so ill take everything into consideration and maybe free up a class or to and maybe fit in sambo or a mma style session thanks!0 -
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Em Do I have to do a session/class called "MMA" to be training in MMA (Mixed Martial Arts)
I think this is a pretty bad attitude to have when people are trying to give advice.
It should be obvious to anyone, even casual observers of the sport that all the skils should be combined in a training pracitise environment.
You listed;
BJJ is fine for groundwork.BJJ for Grappling and submissions & ground work (Ne waza) Karate for foot work and speed, Kickboxing for fitness, flexibility
and Working on Kicking technique and power, Boxing for punching technique, Evasion, Fitness and power also.
But doing Karate, Kickboxing and boxing is not just overkill, its silly. There is really no need for 3 strike disiplines. Obviously, being expert in all would be great but that's not what will happen. You'd be better off doing 3 class of one striking disipline, then you'd at least reach a high level in that one quicker, rather than being an novice in 3 kinds.
Regarding an MMA class. Are you seriosuly suggesting that its a good idea to isolate all your training into each disipline and just hope that they all come together in the cage on the day of the fight.
Also, I wouldn't rely on martial arts training for fitness and power. Having dedicated strength and conditioning session would be far more advantagous.
I'd suggest dropping some striking and include some S&C work.
Monday- Kickboxing 2h
Tuesday- Strength and conditioning
Wednesday- Brazilian Jujitsu 2h
Thursday- Kickboxing 2h
Friday- Brazilian Jujitsu 1h
Sat- MMA session
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I think this is a pretty bad attitude to have when people are trying to give advice.
It should be obvious to anyone, even casual observers of the sport that all the skils should be combined in a training practice environment.
You listed;
BJJ is fine for groundwork.
But doing Karate, Kickboxing and boxing is not just overkill, its silly. There is really no need for 3 strike disiplines. Obviously, being expert in all would be great but that's not what will happen. You'd be better off doing 3 class of one striking disipline, then you'd at least reach a high level in that one quicker, rather than being an novice in 3 kinds.
Regarding an MMA class. Are you seriosuly suggesting that its a good idea to isolate all your training into each disipline and just hope that they all come together in the cage on the day of the fight.
Also, I wouldn't rely on martial arts training for fitness and power. Having dedicated strength and conditioning session would be far more advantagous.
I'd suggest dropping some striking and include some S&C work.
Monday- Kickboxing 2h
Tuesday- Strength and conditioning
Wednesday- Brazilian Jujitsu 2h
Thursday- Kickboxing 2h
Friday- Brazilian Jujitsu 1h
Sat- MMA session
Sunday - Free Day
Sorry I didn't mean to have a bad attitude I was just confused Apologies,
For the three striking arts I've been doing Shotokan karate for 7 years currently a 1st Dan Black belt although I haven't graded since 2006 and am A former Traditional Karate Kumite world champion so I wouldn't be a novice.
I wouldn't consider doing the three striking arts as silly I find in my kickboxing class im gaining footwork, defense, Kicking power (Full contact) as well as gaining strength and flexibility. and in boxing i'm definitely gaining experience in punching power, speed and gaining more and more ability to take hits at full contact. So I see it as kinda toughing me up
I will be doing the strength and conditioning class Ina few weeks and be adding it to my game the one our instructor holds though is VERY tough though people have even gotten sick. so i know im not at the fitness level yet to even consider it. but its on the cards.
I will be looking for a mma camp or place which does mma sessions although at the moment where I train they dont but I'll be looking around and finding a suitable training facility.0 -
I'm not even able to start my training yet so in no way able to give advice.
I just wanted to say fair play to you for going for it.
As someone who hasn't been able to start for various annoying reasons i am well impressed you are getting in 6 days a week training and would consider that pretty close to full time.Since you mention as much as you can anyway.
That seems like alot for someone not considering competing.
But if we want to be pedantic we could say thats not full time for an actual competitor and thats probably true.
I reckon if your not, then now is the best time to pick your favourite areas of these sports/arts and focus on 2 or 3 and the mma day sounds like a great idea for sparring to put it into practise.
All the best with your training and i am envious of you for being able to start your training lol.
I have had several annoying leg issues that is frustrating me no end, so like i said fair play and best of luck.
Oh and as a layman in relation to mma my own limited opinion is that kickboxing and BJJ might be a good all round start if only picking two of them.
I would also want to add wrestling on one day too aswell though and am hoping to do so at some stage.
It seems to me wrestling is a great way to get basic theory on the importance of position in a practical way.
BBJ im sure is too but i think thats mostly more usefull for ground defence/submissions from what ive seen so far.
To sum up, my favourites might be kickboxing/BJJ/wrestling as usefull ones to learn to compete.
Im open to criticism too! The more info the better i say.
Thanks mate
that sucks about you leg issues
I myself had a serious judo injury - Shoulder popped out, colar bone dislocated 2 1/2 inches permanent injury! and the muscles on my shoulder blade were messed up. Hospital & over 1 year off training doing physio and rebuilding my arm :rolleyes:
but i'm 100% now :cool:
I think wrestling would be a great Idea, my training schedule is still being decided by myself and I'll see where my training goes.0 -
Fair enough.Sid_Justice wrote: »didn't disagree with anything, didn't read past the first line.
Bit strange that you didn't read it is all.
TBH, that wasn't immediatly clear from your OP. With a high level in one, it would be easier to include others imo.So
For the three striking arts I've been doing Shotokan karate for 7 years currently a 1st Dan Black belt although I haven't graded since 2006 and am A former Traditional Karate Kumite world champion so I wouldn't be a novice.I will be doing the strength and conditioning class Ina few weeks and be adding it to my game the one our instructor holds though is VERY tough though people have even gotten sick.
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