X Factor USA (2011)

Da Shins Kelly

Astro will be fine. He's got a very bright future ahead of him. I'm excited about him actually.

JP Liz V1

Simon really looked pissed and Steve Jones didnt help matters by keep asking him for a comment

leggo

Gutted for Astro but had kinda made my peace with the fact that he could go.

Some real quality moments at the end, was crying laughing on a couple of occasions:

• Steve Jones throwing his arms up to heaven when Simon told him he didn't have anything to say. Body language screamed "Can I do ANYTHING right?!?"
• Another Steve Jones cock-up: when Drew finished singing, he went and gave her a big hug, looked like a sweetheart then coldly told her "Go on over there now."
• The very end of the show with Steve signing off, LA Reid just stood behind him, folded arms, with a stern look on his face staring dead into the camera. So random. It was as if Steve had gotten drunk and ruined a wedding or something and LA was waiting with him, quietly seething, while he puked up in the toilet: letting him finish but you know he's so ****ed when he does. Re-watch it if you can and missed it, absolute gold.

Notorioux

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leahyl

Notorioux wrote: »

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Jesus that was unbelieveably rude to that girl!!!

Notorioux

leahyl wrote: »

Jesus that was unbelieveably rude to that girl!!!

Actually, people were saying on the comments, that it's edited. Nicole sang when the girl left on stage. EVIL MEDIA! :mad: It's funny though, cause Simon got owned AGAIN!

JP Liz V1

Is it two eliminations again this week?

CaliforniaDream

May I be the 1st to say, Rachel was amazing in the sing off.

Did not deserve to go. Felt really bad for her on stage. Such a cute little kid.

ibarelycare

I didn't watch it but when I saw there was a new post in here I thought "I bet it will say that Rachel went" She is a cute kid, too young for the competition though. Who was she against in the sing-off? I'd say Simon was livid?

I haven't been watching this at all in weeks, I find it a bit boring. I've just kept up with what's going on here, and I always look up Josh's performances on YT

cgpg5

ibarelycare wrote: »

I didn't watch it but when I saw there was a new post in here I thought "I bet it will say that Rachel went" She is a cute kid, too young for the competition though. Who was she against in the sing-off? I'd say Simon was livid?

I haven't been watching this at all in weeks, I find it a bit boring. I've just kept up with what's going on here, and I always look up Josh's performances on YT

I agree, she is much too young for it she was up against Marcus and Nicole put it to deadlock. Simon wasn't that mad as she was sent home after deadlock meaning that she had the lowest votes anyway so deserved to go.

borderlinemeath

ibarelycare wrote: »

I haven't been watching this at all in weeks, I find it a bit boring. I've just kept up with what's going on here, and I always look up Josh's performances on YT

:eek:
The contestants are far better in the USA version.

I look forward to USA much moreso than the UK one, no judges drama, they do get the digs in but it's not the soap opera that is the UK one. The only downside is the crap that Nicole and Paula spew, but even still it's far less infuriating than listening to Gary talk shiite.

ibarelycare

I agree that the singers are far better, but I just find the song choices really boring most of the time. I also can't stand watching Steve Jones. I actually feel bad for him, he's WAY out of his depth. I was never a huge fan of his but he was a good, natural presenter on T4. This move has probably ruined his career!

JP Liz V1

Rachel is suppose to have a deal with Disney for her own tv show and album

borderlinemeath

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Rachel is suppose to have a deal with Disney for her own tv show and album

The next (less slutty) version of Hannah Montana so.

borderlinemeath

ibarelycare wrote: »

I agree that the singers are far better, but I just find the song choices really boring most of the time. I also can't stand watching Steve Jones. I actually feel bad for him, he's WAY out of his depth. I was never a huge fan of his but he was a good, natural presenter on T4. This move has probably ruined his career!

The songs aren't that bad, now that Lakoda Rayne are out - no more country rock!!
Steve Jones is car crash - he's also awkwardly tall compared to all the contestants bar Josh which makes it look even worse on screen. No harm in taking him down a peg or two, he thought he was the dogs bollox in the UK...

leggo

Ever notice how Steve Jones always looks like he's about to have a nervous breakdown at the end of the show? It's as if he knows he's just shovelled another piece of dirt on his big American break. He's just very awkward, it's so hard to see how he got the job when he comes out with statements that just wreck the whole vibe and leave everyone thinking "HUH?!" constantly...e.g. talking about how handsome Lenny Kravitz was at the start of the show.

I also loved how Simon was half-babysitting Rachel and half-babysitting Steve, giving him a reassuring nod saying "Don't worry...I'll talk to you this week..."

Tonight, he made an uber-dick move though by asking Nicole if she had anything to say. I know it was probably to get her to redeem herself by apologising, but she had nothing to apologise for! She was more than fair letting it go to deadlock...both acts absolutely nailed the sing-off and it only added to the drama.

Chris Rene really stepped it up this week. He's put himself in the running now and will almost definitely make up the final with Josh and Melanie. I'd actually put him as runner-up behind Josh after that performance. Genius move by LA to let him go out and sing his own track. The fact that it was acoustic, just a dude singing a song he wrote on a guitar on this massive platform, gave it a very special vibe that stands out. Delighted for him too as he's a real artist and my only previous point of contention with him was that he was perhaps too credible for X Factor. He has a real chance now, especially with Josh losing momentum slightly it seems.

The big question heading into next week, for me, is has Marcus been turned into a martyr now or is he dead in the water? Will people rally behind him now he's survived three weeks on the spin in the bottom two and can he blag a spot in the final? It'll be interesting to see...

cgpg5

leggo wrote: »

Ever notice how Steve Jones always looks like he's about to have a nervous breakdown at the end of the show? It's as if he knows he's just shovelled another piece of dirt on his big American break. He's just very awkward, it's so hard to see how he got the job when he comes out with statements that just wreck the whole vibe and leave everyone thinking "HUH?!" constantly...e.g. talking about how handsome Lenny Kravitz was at the start of the show.

I also loved how Simon was half-babysitting Rachel and half-babysitting Steve, giving him a reassuring nod saying "Don't worry...I'll talk to you this week..."

Tonight, he made an uber-dick move though by asking Nicole if she had anything to say. I know it was probably to get her to redeem herself by apologising, but she had nothing to apologise for! She was more than fair letting it go to deadlock...both acts absolutely nailed the sing-off and it only added to the drama.

Chris Rene really stepped it up this week. He's put himself in the running now and will almost definitely make up the final with Josh and Melanie. I'd actually put him as runner-up behind Josh after that performance. Genius move by LA to let him go out and sing his own track. The fact that it was acoustic, just a dude singing a song he wrote on a guitar on this massive platform, gave it a very special vibe that stands out. Delighted for him too as he's a real artist and my only previous point of contention with him was that he was perhaps too credible for X Factor. He has a real chance now, especially with Josh losing momentum slightly it seems.

The big question heading into next week, for me, is has Marcus been turned into a martyr now or is he dead in the water? Will people rally behind him now he's survived three weeks on the spin in the bottom two and can he blag a spot in the final? It'll be interesting to see...

There is no way Melanie will come third I would be absolutely amazed if she didn't win it

leggo

cgpg5 wrote: »

There is no way Melanie will come third I would be absolutely amazed if she didn't win it

Hmmm...big call. I mean, I tipped her as an outsider last week so I get where you're coming from: she has the whole 'new accent' thing as well as her newfound love of screaming upbeat messages at the judges before they rate her, which people will love. But if she won I'd find it terribly typical and anti-climactic. Yay, a Whitney Houston-type won a singing show, we haven't seen that since at least yesterday! And she won't sell records afterwards either. Deserves a spot in the final, yes, but not anything more for me. But could still do it.

Whereas with Josh you have a credible artist born with a voice to sell albums. And Chris is the finished package, artist-wise, so he'll have a strong fan base as well as now established original material that'll shift almost immediately. That's why I'd be happier with either of those.

It'll be tight for sure. I definitely wouldn't say anyone is a shoe-in though.

Lord TSC

I'll admit I've not been watching. But I just saw Rachel's elimination. Wow, did she give off that air of arrogance and spoiledness throughout the show? The whole "Mommy, you promised me!" bit was kind of pathetic but then thats why I wouldn't put a kid into competitions like this...

ibarelycare

Wow Josh doing Rihanna!! I love that song and I actually didn't recognise it for ages because it just suited him so much. Really hope he wins!

woodoo

I wonder will poor Steve Jones get the axe after this series

SIR!!

cgpg5

woodoo wrote: »

I wonder will poor Steve Jones get the axe after this series

SIR!!

I'd say so he has been a bit of a car crash tbh however after last nights show I did feel a bit of sympathy for him, it was incredibly awkward after Rachel got knocked out and there was about 20 people on stage! Also when Nicole refused to speak to him I think she really needs to get over herself, she has been a real disappointment and I actually think she's been worse than Jones throughout the series!

woodoo

I hope they put Josh's voice to good use after the show. He has a brilliant voice.

ibarelycare

cgpg5 wrote: »

I'd say so he has been a bit of a car crash tbh however after last nights show I did feel a bit of sympathy for him, it was incredibly awkward after Rachel got knocked out and there was about 20 people on stage! Also when Nicole refused to speak to him I think she really needs to get over herself, she has been a real disappointment and I actually think she's been worse than Jones throughout the series!

It's hard to know who's worse out of Nicole or Steve. Nicole is just cringy. Simon's "playful" digs at her are so real, I get the impression he's always embarrassed at having her on the panel. She's absolutely useless.

I haven't seen where she refuses to talk to Steve yet! Just watching it on TV3 at the mo. Will just watch the results show on Youtube so I can skip all the filler!

Busi_Girl08

Chris's lyrics:

"Where do we go from here?
Where do we go from here?
Were do we go from here?
God only knows.

Uh. Uh.

Where do we go from here?
Where do we go from heeeeeeere?
Where do we go from here?

Uh. Uh.

God only knows"

ibarelycare

Ah I liked Chris's song, fair play to him!

The right two ended up in the sing-off, both second songs were very dull. Chris, Josh and Melanie for the final hopefully.

cgpg5

ibarelycare wrote: »

It's hard to know who's worse out of Nicole or Steve. Nicole is just cringy. Simon's "playful" digs at her are so real, I get the impression he's always embarrassed at having her on the panel. She's absolutely useless.

I haven't seen where she refuses to talk to Steve yet! Just watching it on TV3 at the mo. Will just watch the results show on Youtube so I can skip all the filler!

I remember when Nicole was on the English one last year briefly and people were raving about her, she's a disaster now well! I've never seen her give one insightful comment!

Yeah granted he shouldn't really have asked her to speak, she still should've been professional enough to say something. Steve actually seemed really annoyed and I wouldn't blame him! All that crying about not wanting to send either act home was ridiculous I mean come on get over yourself, twice this series (on the UK) Louis sent his own act home with minimum fuss, she couldn't even choose between two average acts that weren't even hers! Judges are paid to make a decision and show professionalism!

woodoo

ibarelycare wrote: »

Ah I liked Chris's song, fair play to him!

It was fairly good, simple but good.

ibarelycare

I know I shouldn't but I was laughing there watching all the drama Poor Rachel, she was way too young for the show.

When Marcus sang I thought Rachel wouldn't top him but she really is amazing, she makes it look effortless. She has a great career ahead of her I'm sure.

The end was so uncomfortable there, poor Steve!

argosy2006

''Moma you promised, YOU PROMISED'' , WTF !!

woodoo

Thats twice now Nicole has opted out of voting. She is in the wrong job.

Notorioux

God what a drama queen... Them kids shouldn't be allowed to join in the competition. They should expect there's a possibility they don't win, but no those kids are already expecting they got the 5 million contract on their hands and what's with the people blaming Nicole? It's a deadlock and it happens that girl had the lowest votes it's Americas fault for not voting her not Nicole.

JP Liz V1

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

I'll admit I've not been watching. But I just saw Rachel's elimination. Wow, did she give off that air of arrogance and spoiledness throughout the show? The whole "Mommy, you promised me!" bit was kind of pathetic but then thats why I wouldn't put a kid into competitions like this...

I did lol at her elimination you could see that when it went to deadlock she thought Marcus was going home I think Nicole was right saving Marcus and taking it to deadlock

Kinda surprised Simon wasnt too angry at her elimination compared to Drew's elimination the week before

dark crystal

I have to admit, I found Rachel annoying in the extreme and I found her to be the weakest on the night (apart from the save me song), but I didn't think she'd be eliminated.

If Nicole is back on the panel next year, it'll be a miracle.

borderlinemeath

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I did lol at her elimination you could see that when it went to deadlock she thought Marcus was going home I think Nicole was right saving Marcus and taking it to deadlock

Kinda surprised Simon wasnt too angry at her elimination compared to Drew's elimination the week before

She really did think she was staying when it went to deadlock! I would say she fancied her chances being up against Marcus who has been hovering near the bottom for 3 weeks now.

Simon wasn't worried because she does have a future in some teen disney show, not a 5million dollar recording contract. Drew wouldn't have had that opportunity, she comes across as a dorky introspective kid - not what tweenie shows are made about.

3ndahalfof6

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I did lol at her elimination you could see that when it went to deadlock she thought Marcus was going home I think Nicole was right saving Marcus and taking it to deadlock

Kinda surprised Simon wasnt too angry at her elimination compared to Drew's elimination the week before

He probably knew she had the lowest votes, but last week Drew probably had the most votes and he also knew this, hence the different reactions,

me thinks.

Busi_Girl08

Just watched Rachel's elimination. Jaaaaysus that was uncomfortable to watch.

Cupcake_Crisis

What a little tantrum thrower Rachael turned out to be! It was actually so hard to watch!

Butterfly25

Imagine what her mother was telling her...You're going to win, I promise you're going to win :rolleyes:...She was soooo cocky, if you look back when they went to deadlock, she was convinced she was staying!!

Simon probably had to offer her a recording contract on the stage to stop her from freaking out!

leggo

In fairness to the girl, initially I thought she was saying the same. But then I heard her say "PROMISE ME IT'S GOING TO BE ALRIGHT!" So it's possible her mother was just trying to reassure her about the whole thing.

You have to remember, this is a kid who's entire world has been thrown into a tailspin. She's gone from obscurity and possible poverty, to being on national TV every week having her head filled with how she's going to be a big star for weeks, even months, and then she has it all taken away from her in a second.

If she was older, yeah fair enough, she should have braced herself. But you can't have a go at the poor child for feeling like her world had just caved in. It probably felt that way at the time. She'd just gotten used to the limelight and, within 20 minutes, it appeared to be all gone. Give her a break lads.

Butterfly25

leggo wrote: »

In fairness to the girl, initially I thought she was saying the same. But then I heard her say "PROMISE ME IT'S GOING TO BE ALRIGHT!" So it's possible her mother was just trying to reassure her about the whole thing.

You have to remember, this is a kid who's entire world has been thrown into a tailspin. She's gone from obscurity and possible poverty, to being on national TV every week having her head filled with how she's going to be a big star for weeks, even months, and then she has it all taken away from her in a second.

If she was older, yeah fair enough, she should have braced herself. But you can't have a go at the poor child for feeling like her world had just caved in. It probably felt that way at the time. She'd just gotten used to the limelight and, within 20 minutes, it appeared to be all gone. Give her a break lads.

I totally agree...at that moment in time she probably thought it was all over and her life would go back to the way it was before.

But even in her first audition she was super cocky and probably thought she had it won there and then.

Simon/the producers definitely have to look at the age limit next year!

Da Shins Kelly

I know she's just a kid, and a child's perspective can be pretty skewed (mishaps can seem like the end of the world and such), but throwing herself on the ground, wailing? That's a bit much, even for a thirteen year old. My nephew is thirteen, and I cannot even imagine him getting away with behaviour like that at his age. When I think of Astro and how he was treated for one (fairly valid) comment and he's not that much older than Rachel, it seems a bit f*cked up. He took his elimination well, and got on with it with minimum fuss. And yet we're supposed to feel sorry for this kid? Her behaviour at the end was just cringe.

However, I'm laying the blame with Simon Cowell here. He says that people like Rachel Crow are the reason the age limit was lowered, but it was completely shown up here. She's just far too young and clearly can't deal with the pressure. I don't think people should be blaming Scherzinger. I've never really agreed with the whole idea of judges overruling the public anyway, but she got the lowest votes. If people wanted her in, they should have f*cking voted for her. End of.

JP Liz V1

http://www.digitalspy.ie/ustv/s141/the-x-factor-us/news/a355674/x-factor-paula-told-nicole-to-go-to-deadlock-over-rachel-crow-video.html

^ Paula told Nicole to take it to deadlock

JP Liz V1

This should be a cracking final (way better than UK one anyways) given who the final three are

Josh, Melanie and Chris Rene

Cupcake_Crisis

Watching the performances now on Tv3! Have seen Chris, Marcus, Josh and Melanie sing their Pepsi songs so far and then all been a bit ...meh. Melainie's was utterly predictable and the arrangement was very poor. Chris just isn't up to par with the other singers, but he's very organic and heart felt. I much prefer him doing his own songs. Josh was the best of a bad lot in the first round.

CaliforniaDream

I hope Josh wins.
Melanie is starting to grate on me and normally I love that style. Hated the arrangement of Hero. She has a good voice but she's a bit annoying.

Chris - I just don't get it. I don't think he's a good singer. He seems a bit all over the place in terms of what style artist he would be. I'm surprised he made the final tbh.

Josh has an amazing voice. He's a bit scary looking when he sings sometimes but I'd listen to him on the radio. Thought his version of Hallelujah was really good.

I thought the live shows would be really good when I saw the judges houses shows. But overall it's lacked. The right people didn't get picked at the start and the whole show just seems rushed and boring.

Da Shins Kelly

Chris is going to win and he should - he's a proper artist who writes his own material and seems to know where he's going as an r n' b artist. True, he's not the best singer, but he's the most authentic of what's left and he's the only true artist there who could actually have a real career in r n' b/hip-hop. He's also hugely likeable - everyone loves a comeback.

S.M.B.

A 7 year old can write their own material, it doesn't mean it's any good and it certainly doesn't mean they're entitled to win a show like this.

I'd rather a good solid singer goes on to win the show as opposed to some hack who's gaining a bit of credibility for writing shockingly poor songs.

Astro was 10 times the "artist" Chris Rene was and ever will be.

Da Shins Kelly

S.M.B. wrote: »

A 7 year old can write their own material, it doesn't mean it's any good and it certainly doesn't mean they're entitled to win a show like this.

I'd rather a good solid singer goes on to win the show as opposed to some hack who's gaining a bit of credibility for writing shockingly poor songs.

Astro was 10 times the "artist" Chris Rene was and ever will be.

I agree that Astro was better, but he's gone so it's no longer got anything to do with him. He's obviously going to have a career. We're talking about who is the best of who's left.

I don't think Chris' songs are "shockingly poor", and at least he is writing his own material. I could see that 'Where Do We Go From Here?' song getting radio play. He's only going to get better too.

What sort of artist is that Melanie going to be? A Mariah Carey/Whitney Huston/Celine Dion rip-off? That's how she'll be marketed, in the same way Leona Lewis is. She might be a technically good singer, but she is never going to be a credible artist. Same goes for Josh. He's technically good, but I can't see him selling records. People like those kind of singers until they're released into the real world, and then nobody gives a sh*t about them because they've heard it all before.

Being a good singer isn't all that there is to it. Being a good artist is more than being a good singer, way more. Chris is not the best singer, nobody is denying that, but he does have charisma, likeability, he's writing his own stuff and he's actually marketable. There is something there to work with. He could be easily turned into a pop star. He's rough around the edges, but he could definitely shape up.

The other two are about 20 years too late for their market.

emeraldstar

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Chris is going to win and he should - he's a proper artist who writes his own material and seems to know where he's going as an r n' b artist. True, he's not the best singer, but he's the most authentic of what's left and he's the only true artist there who could actually have a real career in r n' b/hip-hop. He's also hugely likeable - everyone loves a comeback.

I cannot stand him. Ugh. And that last song of his he performed was shite. It was the same single lyric repeated over and over.