Gray & Keys back in the game....

DeanAustin

Pretty poor behaviour from them but SKY are a shower of c**ts for cynically releasing it now. I don't think they should be kicked off screen now as this happened before the last comments that got them sacked from SKY were made public. But you have to wonder what they were thinking.

CSF

DeanAustin wrote: »

Pretty poor behaviour from them but SKY are a shower of c**ts for cynically releasing it now. I don't think they should be kicked off screen now as this happened before the last comments that got them sacked from SKY were made public. But you have to wonder what they were thinking.

They shouldn't be allowed on screen full stop. This is just more evidence of it. Certain people shouldn't be given platforms in the public eye. Racists, homophobes and blatant chauvinists are some of the main ones you'd refer to in that discussion.

tigger123

They're a pair of knuckle-draggers, anything that keeps em off the air is welcome. How you can treat your colleagues beggers belief.

Agent Coulson

That behaviour rightly cost them their job's at Sky. That clip is from Sky who fired them. They were punished for their many comments and lost a job they had for 20 years and rightly so. No one should be aloud to get away with what they said in this day and age.

They now work for beIN and TalkSport who have not released any clips of them being any way insulting to anyone.

Have they learned their lesson I hope so and do they deserve a second chance. I believe they do.

They started working in from a time when it was deemed ok to make comments like that and for 20 years their employer did nothing about untill they felt pressure from the outside and dealt with it.

I would hope they learned from their actions and losing the highest profile TV job in football should have given them the kick in the ass that now makes them understand how insulting they were to women.

noodler

Did she actually say that she'd take her jacket off when they were doing it for real or did I hear it incorrectly?

Still though, no excuse.

If you worked for SSN and all those beautiful women around, you'd think all sorts but you wouldn't be stupid enough to say anything - you would think!

Agent Coulson

noodler wrote: »

Did she actually say that she'd take her jacket off when they were doing it for real or did I hear it incorrectly?

Still though, no excuse.

If you worked for SSN and all those beautiful women around, you'd think all sorts but you wouldn't be stupid enough to say anything - you would think!

It was a run through before going live and she said she would take her jacket off when she was going to do it live.

noodler

Agent Coulson wrote: »

It was a run through before going live and she said she would take her jacket off when she was going to do it live.

Yeah, I just thought, you know, don't encourage them!


EDIT: i wasn't confusing "for real" with actually taking them out btw!

could never stand either of them

LuckyLloyd

bennyl10 wrote: »

While not actually doing there job.
They're basically on lunch or on a tea break, they weren't on air at the time..

You're not allowed have any kind of laugh once you're in the bulilding you work in by your standards..

She seemed to laugh along with it also..

Wow

TheDoc

Not defending them, albeit there is a very obvious smeer campaign coming from Sky.

But any male who claims to have never, in the context of what he deemed a private conversation with another male, to have never EVER made any comment in relation to a female, be it looks, appearance or wanting to "smash it", is a liar.

Simply put, a liar.

No excuse for the pair in fairness, they are operating in televised profession where they should be aware of the potential risks of cameras being accidently on.

But I'm pretty sick and tired of hearing the **** that goes on from people about how its a disgrace.

I'm yet to experience a workplace that hasn't had comments of a sexual nature by men or woman that have taken place in the context of privacy, and in fairness I've witnessed some rather loud public comment as well.

I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying that I'm pretty tired of the moral brigade, who if said to me have never made a sexist comment in their life, I'd call them a filthy liar.

Skylinehead

TheDoc wrote: »

Not defending them, albeit there is a very obvious smeer campaign coming from Sky.

But any male who claims to have never, in the context of what he deemed a private conversation with another male, to have never EVER made any comment in relation to a female, be it looks, appearance or wanting to "smash it", is a liar.

Simply put, a liar.

No excuse for the pair in fairness, they are operating in televised profession where they should be aware of the potential risks of cameras being accidently on.

But I'm pretty sick and tired of hearing the **** that goes on from people about how its a disgrace.

I'm yet to experience a workplace that hasn't had comments of a sexual nature by men or woman that have taken place in the context of privacy, and in fairness I've witnessed some rather loud public comment as well.

I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying that I'm pretty tired of the moral brigade, who if said to me have never made a sexist comment in their life, I'd call them a filthy liar.

I'm sorry, but you clearly don't understand the extent of this case. It's not simply the odd "male-to-male" conversation, don't you remember the Charlotte Jackson incident? That's harassment.

noodler

TheDoc wrote: »

Not defending them, albeit there is a very obvious smeer campaign coming from Sky.

But any male who claims to have never, in the context of what he deemed a private conversation with another male, to have never EVER made any comment in relation to a female, be it looks, appearance or wanting to "smash it", is a liar.

Simply put, a liar.

No excuse for the pair in fairness, they are operating in televised profession where they should be aware of the potential risks of cameras being accidently on.

But I'm pretty sick and tired of hearing the **** that goes on from people about how its a disgrace.

I'm yet to experience a workplace that hasn't had comments of a sexual nature by men or woman that have taken place in the context of privacy, and in fairness I've witnessed some rather loud public comment as well.

I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying that I'm pretty tired of the moral brigade, who if said to me have never made a sexist comment in their life, I'd call them a filthy liar.

Completely irrelevant.

keeponhurling

Chucky the tree wrote: »

When you're in work on your break today shout "get your tits out for the lads" at one of your female colleagues today and let us know how you get on?

Then, for further research purposes, shout "give your fronties a tweak for the lads" at another female colleague

TimeToShine

noodler wrote: »

Completely irrelevant.

I disagree. Some of the indignation expressed here is well above what is reasonable. You can't morally object to something this much when it's quite clear when you think you're in relative privacy you probably say similar things. It's just the PC brigade gone mad as always, the two lads lost the best job of its kind in the world and have been mooching around on the radio ever since, is that not enough punishment? The only irrelevant argument here would be using their punditry skill (or lack there-of depending on who is arguing) against them because it just divides opinion. The simple matter of the fact is this; all lads engage in this kind of "banter" in one form or another. Is it particulary bad form for them considering they are on television? Yes. Should they have been punished? Yes. Did they learn their lesson? Almost definitely yes. So what's the problem? Live and let live, this spiteful attitude some of ye have is very childish.

noodler

TimeToShine wrote: »

I disagree. Some of the indignation expressed here is well above what is reasonable. You can't morally object to something this much when it's quite clear when you think you're in relative privacy you probably say similar things. It's just the PC brigade gone mad as always, the two lads lost the best job of its kind in the world and have been mooching around on the radio ever since, is that not enough punishment? The only irrelevant argument here would be using their punditry skill (or lack there-of depending on who is arguing) against them because it just divides opinion. The simple matter of the fact is this; all lads engage in this kind of "banter" in one form or another. Is it particulary bad form for them considering they are on television? Yes. Should they have been punished? Yes. Did they learn their lesson? Almost definitely yes. So what's the problem? Live and let live, this spiteful attitude some of ye have is very childish.

When you say it in the workplace, to a female colleague no less, then I say the indignation is justified.

ArmaniJeanss

keeponhurling wrote: »

Then, for further research purposes, shout "give your fronties a tweak for the lads" at another female colleague

I think it was 'trupnies'.
'Threepenny bits' (an old coin) is Cockney slang for tits, and gets further cockneyed down to trupney bit.

batistuta9

frupnies i thought he said

ArmaniJeanss

batistuta9 wrote: »

frupnies i thought he said

I think that's just the way UK people sometimes pronounce 'th' as 'f' or 'v'.

"The most important fing was getting the win and the free points, not bovvered about the performance".

Fr Tod Umptious

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

"The most important fing was getting the win and the free points, not bovvered about the performance".

In'it

MisterAnarchy

I'd love to hear what Billo and the boys say off the air on RTE ,I can only imagine the stuff Eamonn says would make these two look like saints.

keeponhurling

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

I think it was 'trupnies'.
'Threepenny bits' (an old coin) is Cockney slang for tits, and gets further cockneyed down to trupney bit.

Haha, linguistics forum >>>>>

You could probably say that in an Irish workplace and get away with it, cos nobody would have a clue what you're talking about!