***Spoilers UFC 129: St.Pierre v Shields Spoilers***

fakearms123

fakearms123 wrote: »

Hey I'm thinking about putting down a tenner on Jake Shields winning by submission on Paddy Power because he's at a 9/1 for submitted GSP, its a long shot but I could win €90. And I was thinking of putting down a tenner on Randy beating Lyoto by decision with is a 9/2. What do you think? Is it a waste of money?

Definitely not. Randy can never be counted out and is good odds at 9/2. Machida has great wrestling for a Brazilian fighter too.
I think the bookies are being a bit naive giving 9/1 on Shields winning by sub. He has a very good chance of subbing GSP, Shields is a very high level black belt in Gracie Jiu Jitsu and has (a bigger than some people think) edge on the ground, they showed a video of him rolling with Phil Davis the other day, take in mind Phil is a 205'er and I think he cuts ~30 pounds off his natural weight to fight there so you can bet he was 240 when Shields was rolling with him. Great bargain on that bet imo.

On another note did anyone see the primetime episode three. Jakes dad says "Jake always does what's unexpected, And I expect him to win!" :pac:

t-ha

Deleted User wrote: »

Hendo went for the finish in the first round against Shields but he survived. People don't realise how resilient Shields is. GSP won't be able to finish Shields if Hendo's Overhand From Hell didn't. (it was close enough though)

Wrong! GSP can punch harder than Rampage or Cain Valasquez and can even punch harder than Shogun can kick!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzmUhhB8SmA&feature=player_embedded

That's right! 2,859 lbs of force! That's 33% more than Ivan Drago's best punch in Rocky IV after a boat-load of steroids and an awesome montage sequence!!! And it doesn't stop there - 3,477 lbs in a kick! 6,000 lbs of force total delivered in a sequence in under a second! This god-like creature known as GSP could make Drago his bitch, kick Shoguns shins into splinters and probably knock out the somehow ever-concious Rocky Balboa!!! That does it, I am off to tear out both my kneecaps, paint them like ladybugs, put them on my desk as paperweights, and then sell that desk to pay for my new jetpack BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE’RE LIVING IN A ****ING FANTASY WORLD.


Yeah, that or Sports Science is BS... :rolleyes:

conor678

I saw that on the prime time episode. Jake Shields was controlling Phil Davis on the floor and that was a real eye opener (doubt they were doing it just for the cameras). Also you have to remember he did the same with Henderson. Saying that he has to get GSP on the floor in the first place which is easier said then done.

I predict a tepid first round whereby GSP jabs the head off Shields a few times and fights off a couple of take downs. More of the same in the 2nd whereby GSP will be taken down and get back up then a few more jabs and then a 3rd round TKO to GSP!

Saying that 9/1 in Paddy Powers for Sub of the night with Shields is tempting!

jayteecork

This seems to be the biggest MMA drought in a while, can't wait for this one.

JoeyJJ

Damn Shields down to 7/1 now to win by Sub, probably save me a few quid still fancy GSP to take him just.

Snappy the Moose

The primetime shows are merely for entertainment, I wouldn't be confident betting on the outcomes of fights because we saw a 2 minute clip of somebody sparring or rolling.

I love Randy but it will take Machida to have a serious off day for him to win. Everybody knows he was beaten by Vera, and his last two fights can't really be counted as competitive fights. You can't count him out but I really am, he just won't be good enough to implement his Greko-Roman style as he will eat punches/kicks on the way in.

Shields is probably worth a bet at those odds.

Snappy the Moose

Snappy the Moose wrote: »

I love Randy but it will take Machida to have a serious off day for him to win. Everybody knows he was beaten by Vera, and his last two fights can't really be counted as competitive fights. You can't count him out but I really am, he just won't be good enough to implement his Greko-Roman style as he will eat punches/kicks on the way in.

Yeah it's a fight where I don't know who to back. I want Machida to get back and have another go at Rampage. But I want Couture to retire respectfully. Hopefully he doesn't get KO'd Chuck style.

Pride Fighter

Randy is only a month or 2 shy of 48. What a man, what an athlete. With Liddell and Randy retired, GSP is the biggest star left in the UFC. Its a changing of the guard this UFC, it'll go down as a turning point in MMA history.

Will Randy be dancing tomorrow?

Oh_Noes

Deleted User wrote: »

Will Randy be dancing tomorrow?

He does a better job than Buffer tbh


Early weigh-ins tonight, 9pm our time live on the interwebs

MoonDancer

How do we watch the weigh in online?


Never mind, found it

Oh_Noes

Steven Segal cornering Lyoto machida :pac:

Never knew the guy was so tall, he looked like the tallest person on the stage by a foot!

onlyasuggestion

From: http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dm-meltzer_ufc129_hominick_weight_controversy042911

TORONTO – A procedural error led to controversy over the weigh-in of featherweight title contender Mark Hominick the day before UFC’s biggest live event in history.
Hominick weighed in at 145.25 pounds according to the scale reading at the Ricoh Coliseum, which was the initial public announcement for the championship fight against Jose Aldo Jr., but it was then listed as being 145 pounds.
While the difference sounds minuscule, 145 is the exact limit for a featherweight title fight. If a fighter goes over the mark, the match is supposed to become non-title.

Seems like it doesn't really matter now but don't they usually allow for a pound in case the scales are off?

scudzilla

onlyasuggestion wrote: »

From: http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dm-meltzer_ufc129_hominick_weight_controversy042911


Seems like it doesn't really matter now but don't they usually allow for a pound in case the scales are off?

Not for title fights

Mellor

It's not because the scales are off. 1lb off is a really ****ty scales, these thigns are accurate.

They just give 1lb grace for fighters, with the exception of title fights

baaaa

It's time for an upset like this and Shields is perfectly placed to deliver. It should've happened with Siva and Sonnen but the gods saw fit to postpone it for a bit longer,now is the time.
GSPs record is more padded than people think and I don't think he's gonna be able to stop Shields from applying his game,no one has been able to for ages.
GSP doesn't have any h-bombs either and I don't see him getting away with too many leg kicks or jabs before Shields runs him down and sticks to him.

SDTimeout

Bets for tonight.

Submission of the night - Jake Shields ( If he gets the sub, it must be considered SOTN, ) 20-1

Shields to win in any round (5) of them and the lowest is 16/1 . If you really fancied sheilds there's a great spread betting chance here. Highest is 25/1 for RD 4 and 5.

I fancy a lot of subs tonight, Hit Squads BJJ coach Kyle Watson is 3/1 and Mark Bocek ( 3/4th best BJJ in the UFC IMO ) is 3/1 but he's against Ben Henderson.

I'm going to try that accumulator of Shields, Bocek and Watson all by sub. It's 128/1 and I've seen a lot worse shots than that.

Going to cover myself however with a bet on GSP by KO or Submission also at 11/10. I can't see this one going the distance since GSP has said he doesn't want it to. " Blink and you'll miss it " were his words at the weigh in. With that in mind a small bet on the fight to finish in the first round.

Heading off to cage contender now, hoping to make it back here for the prelims tonight. Chat later guys

unknown13

SDTimeout wrote: »

Bets for tonight.

Submission of the night - Jake Shields ( If he gets the sub, it must be considered SOTN, ) 20-1

Unless we see a flying armbar or some other mad sub. If Shields does win by sub we should see Shields picking up the bonus.

Did anyone else see Phil Nurse talking out of his arse on the third episode of Primetime. He said GSP is better thatn Shields at everything. What bull, Shields has the best BJJ in the WW division.

scudzilla

unknown13 wrote: »

Unless we see a flying armbar or some other mad sub. If Shields does win by sub we should see Shields picking up the bonus.

Did anyone else see Phil Nurse talking out of his arse on the third episode of Primetime. He said GSP is better thatn Shields at everything. What bull, Shields has the best BJJ in the WW division.

AJJ ;)

rabbitinlights

Are the Facebook prelims starting at 11pm and the main event on ESPN is at 1pm?

S.

scudzilla

rabbitinlights wrote: »

Are the Facebook prelims starting at 11pm and the main event on ESPN is at 1pm?

S.

Facebook Prelims 11pm
Spike Prelims - 1am
Main Card - 2am

mailburner

cant resist throwing a few prices around here

im thinking aldo by ko/tko at 8/11 is a good thing (paddy)
some bookies as short as 4/9 on this

anyone think otherwise on this?

ive invested heavily on this and think its only a matter of collecting
i havent been badly burnt doing a big bet of the ufc this year yet
and don't think i will this time either

machida by points or ko/tko 4/7 is another im sweet on and ive
doubled that one with gsp by sub or points at 4/5

said id stick it up here in case anyone hasnt looked at the gambling
in the forum and like me may think theres a few quid to be made

Snappy the Moose

mailburner wrote: »

machida by points or ko/tko

Is this with Paddy mailburner? 4/5 for that is a serious bet, could be onto something there.

Mr. Loverman

Snappy the Moose wrote: »

Is this with Paddy mailburner? 4/5 for that is a serious bet, could be onto something there.

It's 4/7 now. With Paddy.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Pablo Garza wins by submission - triangle.

Mr. Loverman

I think we have sub of the night already.

mailburner

Snappy the Moose wrote: »

Is this with Paddy mailburner? 4/5 for that is a serious bet, could be onto something there.

sorry snappy
got them mixed up

shouldve been machida by ko or points 4/7

gsp by sub or points 4/5

apologies folks
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/ufc-mma/ufc-matches?ev_oc_grp_ids=398698

Snappy the Moose

No worries, thought I was going to pay for my holidays tonight at 4/5

mailburner

video quality pretty poor on fb compared to past events
im finding it hard to look at it but what choice
do we have?

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Yeah it's terrible quality!

Zero-Cool

KO of the f*cking year!!!!

Mr. Loverman

And KO of the night!

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Holy shít what a spinning backfist!

Mr. Loverman

Lads this thread doesn't have spoilers in the title so people will come here not expecting to see spoilers...

Zero-Cool

Can someone put Spoilers in the title please?

Oh_Noes

Glad I didn't make any KO of the night bets now, it's going to take something special to beat that.

mailburner

thats the ko of the night sorted no doubt
glad i didnt bet on that market

ill be gutted if i have to watch diaz mac donald on fb however
please be on espn

was watching that thinking the defeated guy had a great chin
and then..boom!

stiffler123

Some spinning backfist, set up to be a great night.

Oh_Noes

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

Lads this thread doesn't have spoilers in the title so people will come here not expecting to see spoilers...

What do spoilers matter unless you're going to watch it tomorrow, in that case it would be silly coming online to read an event thread before you do.

Zero-Cool

Thanks for the Spoiler add mods. my FB is grand, bad quality at full screen for about 10 secs but then completely clears, excellent quality.

Zero-Cool

Oh_Noes wrote: »

What do spoilers matter unless you're going to watch it tomorrow, in that case it would be silly coming online to read an event thread before you do.

Yupp, i'm off to bed and not gonna touch this thread til I watch the whole thing tomorrow. Enjoy the night lads!

mailburner

id love to see the athlete win this
surely be cut again otherwise

3hn2givr7mx1sc

mailburner wrote: »

ill be gutted if i have to watch diaz mac donald on fb however
please be on espn

Ellenberger v Pierson and Diaz v MacDonald are on ESPN.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Boom. McDonald wins by triangle in the first round.

themandan6611

another good sub, quality so far

seadnamac

Some night of finishes so far.

Oh_Noes

:eek: What's this? Wasn't expecting it at all.

Random sports panel talk ftw. I thought they were just going to break until the Spike prelims start.

*edit- nvm it's just an ad for a post fight show.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Lovely elbow from Menjivar!

themandan6611

some great finishes so far, could be some card by the end

3hn2givr7mx1sc

I love Joe Rogan.:D "Let's watch this again cause you can actually see his nose breaking." *rolls replay" "Oh yeah!"