Deja vu - Labour - restricted breeds

EGAR

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=138795039517529&id=169411475888

And what followed the above is the below:

http://joecostellotd.blogspot.com/2007/01/dangerous-dogs-statement-sparks-debate.html


Same old sh*te, same old party, different election year.. If you own a restricted breed vote with your feet.

Just a reminder of what happened in 2007, lest we forget .

DBCyc

This fool is our local TD. I am looking forward to him calling to my door. I might just invite him in to witness how well our staff and 5 month old daughter get along together.

antomagoo

Is still there stance on things?

If so they have lost my vote, although not sure they had it to begin with. I've emailed Liz McManus to ask for some clarification on this, but dont expect a reply :rolleyes:

EGAR

Yep, several of my friends, volunteers and supporters have emailed and not gotten a reply.

portgirl123

****, they were around my house this morning

andreac

Maybe i should be ready and armed to question them about this if they call to mine. What exactly should i be asking? Im useless when it comes to politics so wouldnt know where to start:o
They could come in and my 2 restricted breeds could keep them company. All 78kg of them:D

antomagoo

andreac wrote: »

Maybe i should be ready and armed to question them about this if they call to mine. What exactly should i be asking? Im useless when it comes to politics so wouldnt know where to start:o
They could come in and my 2 restricted breeds could keep them company. All 78kg of them:D

Good point, EGAR would you have anything in the way of a standard argument that you put to these people? I'd have a pretty good idea about what I'd say to them, but might miss out some essential points

EGAR

I'll draw up a list this evening, got to run to collect a walking mop from the vet sans family jewels .



SOME pit bull that is - I am sure Labour will agree seeing that their canvassers in 2007 thought my rednose Bogey was a choc Lab pup :rolleyes:

pugsnotdrugs

I'll definitely raise this with him when he calls to our door. I will also be asking him why Labour voted against the stag hunting ban last year.

Discodog

What a joke especially when the UK are considering dropping BSL.

CL32

Discodog wrote: »

What a joke especially when the UK are considering dropping BSL.

Exactly..

I pointed this out in a comment on his site and told him to go get a job with The Sun.

EGAR

Ask if they have an animal welfare policy (which they don't).

Ask what their stance is on restricted breeds and if they act innocent ask them about their pre-election proposal from 2007:

Ms Upton on restricted breeds
http://www.labour.ie/press/listing/116774140890584.html

Joe Costello:
http://joecostellotd.blogspot.com/2007/01/dangerous-dogs-statement-sparks-debate.html

Print it out and wave it under their noses if they proclaim they have no proposals. Both statements are still up and running on their website. So yes, they are still supporting that idiotic proposal.

One of my volunteers was told at her door that it was *a very small reason not to vote for the fantastic party that is Labour* when she pointed out that she wouldn't be voting for a party that supported carted staghunting and wanted a ban on restricted breeds.

EGAR

And for those who'd like to see Costello in action re the proposal:

Part I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSAxS67pKfc&feature=related

Part II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fddUquDXIjo&feature=related

Shanao

Cant wait to introduce the canvassers to my two. Oh I'll introduce them, let them pet them, then inform them that the adorable little animals they are petting are the animals they're trying to ban. At which point, I will promptly tell them to **** off.

EGAR

Several people including myself have asked on FB but no answer:

http://www.facebook.com/thelabourparty?v=wall

antomagoo

I've emailed several & sent messages on twitter, no replys yet, big suprise.

People can post questions here for a digital debate
http://www.youtube.com/irishelection

EGAR

Pity I am on dial up.

EGAR

My polite questions were deleted off the Labour wall. Now, why am I not surprised and I guess no answer is an answer too!

antomagoo

posted up there myself, lets see if that gets deleted too

joyce2009

yeah i posted too if only to annoy them it would be worth it..:D

antomagoo

joyce2009 wrote: »

yeah i posted too if only to annoy them it would be worth it..:D

you prob wont get a response joyce, they just seem to be blankly refusing to state their position on this

EDIT: I think they've just deleted your post

joyce2009

antomagoo wrote: »

you prob wont get a response joyce, they just seem to be blankly refusing to state their position on this

EDIT: I think they've just deleted your post

god they were quick off the mark,,,oh well i guess i have to wait for my local tool to call to my door and ill do it all over again:D

DBCyc

I had a look at the Facebook page last night and saw that comments in relation to this were either ignored or just deleted. This is pretty pathetic stuff as they are actively engaging with Facebook users on other topics.

In overall terms, while it may seem a very minor issue going into this election, they should at least engage with people on it.

joyce2009

i had asked why my post was deleated but guess what,,,,your right,,, that was deleated too...how original..:rolleyes:

koneko

I'm going to spread the word around. I know a few people that might be thinking about voting Labour that also have RB list dogs, and probably don't know about this.

Thanks EGAR

antomagoo

koneko wrote: »

I'm going to spread the word around. I know a few people that might be thinking about voting Labour that also have RB list dogs, and probably don't know about this.

Thanks EGAR

you should get them to ask the question here http://www.facebook.com/thelabourparty

Chris_Heilong

I would fear if they ever got into power they would simply delete indivduals opinions, was going to vote Labour but have now changed my mind thanks to EGAR appearing on the show, I would have liked to meet you if I knew you where heading into my place of work that day.

Who am I going to vote for now??

Tranceypoo

pugsnotdrugs wrote: »

I'll definitely raise this with him when he calls to our door. I will also be asking him why Labour voted against the stag hunting ban last year.

This is on my list of questions for them & FG, plus the animal welfare question, I will definitely be specific about the RB thing as well now, just waiting waiting waiting for a call to the door, my lad is half Staffy and of course a big friendly lump, can't wait to drop that into the conversation. I am actually quite shocked they are just deleting those comments and questions, maybe I'm being naive, as another poster said, even if it's considered a 'minor' issue, they should at least engage the posters and answer the questions honestly, if they truly believe that crap they're spouting then at least have the balls to stand by it!!

koneko

I doubt we'll get canvassers at our door, none at all so far, but if they do, I'll be putting some questions to them, and asking them if they want to meet my GSD (though I'm sure they won't, since she's supposedly a murderer-in-waiting).

Why vote for a party that can't even answer your question, instead they resort to censorship and just delete the awkward (but valid) questions. Really poor show.

seamus

If you want to catch their real response, ask them an open-ended question like, "I would like to know what Labour plans to do about the control of dogs"?

They may launch into a spiel about banning X, Y & Z, and then you can tell them to PFO. If you show your hand to them that you're a dog lover, they could BS you.

ppink

Didn't one of these parties (not sure which one) say they would reverse the stag hunting ban if they got in?