Spoilers - Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Silva - This Saturday

....meh! · 13-02-2011 4:34am

SanoVitae wrote: »

Not yet I don't think - he'll most likely fight Rogers in Japan.

That's what i was thinking mate, cheers.
With them flashing him up on screen i thought he may have got around the red tape some how.
Anyway looking forward to this and seeing how Fedor reacts to his last fight.

....meh! · 13-02-2011 4:35am

I hope Segal has taught one of these some of his deadly stuff!!!

Daniel2oo9 · 13-02-2011 4:42am

great fight.

Minstrel27 · 13-02-2011 4:42am

Fantastic first round.

riffmongous · 13-02-2011 4:42am

awesome

Daniel2oo9 · 13-02-2011 4:48am

WHAT A FIGHT.

Minstrel27 · 13-02-2011 4:49am

How is this going to the 3rd round?#

EDIT: it's not

Some 2nd round from Silva

riffmongous · 13-02-2011 4:49am

wow

Gerard.C · 13-02-2011 4:49am

"lol" - Dana White

d_jordan · 13-02-2011 4:52am

Go Big Foot!!!

Jayo_M · 13-02-2011 4:55am

I'm sick.

Minstrel27 · 13-02-2011 4:58am

He is retiring?

....meh! · 13-02-2011 4:59am

We know Overeem has great stand up, his K1 win proved it but i can't wait to see how he does against Werdum. I think this is the last we may see of Fedor, his hunger seems to be gone.

Edit : He just said as much himself

Gerard.C · 13-02-2011 5:00am

HA! Shoulda went to the UFC there Fedor my boy eh?

Jayo_M · 13-02-2011 5:02am

Gerard.C wrote: »

HA! Shoulda went to the UFC there Fedor my boy eh?

Why? He more than likely made way more money in Strikeforce with the co-promotion.

Gerard.C · 13-02-2011 5:04am

Jayo_M wrote: »

Why? He more than likely made way more money in Strikeforce with the co-promotion.

Cos now hes retiring with a mangled face having never fought in the UFC. Thats where the big boys play

riffmongous · 13-02-2011 5:07am

imo this was a far more satisfying night of action than a lot of the recent ufcs, maybe 116 was the closest.

I never saw the old Werdum-Silva fight, anyone know what it was like?

....meh! · 13-02-2011 5:09am

Gerard.C wrote: »

HA! Shoulda went to the UFC there Fedor my boy eh?

Yea because the UFC Hw divison is stacked....
Outside Cain and JDS there's not much there, Jones will move up within the next 18 months but thats really it, Schaub shows promise but that's it.

Jayo_M · 13-02-2011 5:11am

Gerard.C wrote: »

Cos now hes retiring with a mangled face having never fought in the UFC. Thats where the big boys play

...lol. He's always fought in the places with the best HW divisions. THe HW division has always been poor in UFC.

Gerard.C · 13-02-2011 5:12am

....meh! wrote: »

Yea because the UFC Hw divison is stacked....
Outside Cain and JDS there's not much there, Jones will move up within the next 18 months but thats really it, Schaub shows promise but that's it.

So Carwin is gone cos Brock made him tap? Lets not forget auld Brocky. Fedor obviously doesnt like bigger men being on top of him, going by tonight Brock would have him from brecky

Jayo_M · 13-02-2011 5:12am

riffmongous wrote: »

imo this was a far more satisfying night of action than a lot of the recent ufcs, maybe 116 was the closest.

I never saw the old Werdum-Silva fight, anyone know what it was like?

It was a pretty good fight, both were close to finishing with Silva buckling Werdum a couple of times.

Stuffy · 13-02-2011 5:13am

Gerard.C wrote: »

HA! Shoulda went to the UFC there Fedor my boy eh?

Gerard.C wrote: »

Cos now hes retiring with a mangled face having never fought in the UFC. Thats where the big boys play

Keep your disrespectful comments for the pro-wrestling forum "my boy".

The legacy of Fedor Emelianenko will never be questioned, the greatest fighter to ever grace the MMA world. You should be appreciative you got to witness it and not sneering at the epitomy of a true fighter.

SanoVitae · 13-02-2011 5:14am

That was awful. Fedor looked terrible from the very start - would have go KOed if that was Overeem or Sergei. The end reminded me of Royce Gracie vs Matt Hughes, where you're praying for him to get out of an impossible position.

At least Sergei-Overeem 3 is possible for the final!

I think I'll stay off Sherdog for a while - no doubt there will he hundreds of posts pissing all over Fedor's achievements and legacy. Just like Chuck was, the guy is a legend.

Jayo_M · 13-02-2011 5:15am

Gerard.C wrote: »

So Carwin is gone cos Brock made him tap? Lets not forget auld Brocky. Fedor obviously doesnt like bigger men being on top of him, going by tonight Brock would have him from brecky

Going by your posts you know next to nothing. Brock doesn't like getting hit in the face, and he'd have Fedor 'for brecky'? Once Carwin can go more than 5 minutes, then he can be considered a top fighter maybe. Remember Gonzaga had him seeing stars?

MonkeyBalls · 13-02-2011 5:15am

He's a living legend. Far more skilled than any heavyweight alive, he just couldn't deal with a monstrous giant who had 40 lbs on him and who fought a perfect fight and was on top of him. The fact that he got out of the second round is incredible.

If he retires, he goes down as the best of all time. Everyone's time comes.

Stuffy · 13-02-2011 5:16am

Gerard.C wrote: »

So Carwin is gone cos Brock made him tap? Lets not forget auld Brocky. Fedor obviously doesnt like bigger men being on top of him, going by tonight Brock would have him from brecky

Is that the Brock Lesnar that would hit the floor from a gust of wind? Great wrestler but doesn't like to be hit and if he took one of Fedor's shots tonight he would be going to sleep. "Brecky" would have to wait until he wakes up the next morning.

riffmongous · 13-02-2011 5:16am

SanoVitae wrote: »

I think I'll stay off Sherdog for a while - no doubt there will he hundreds of posts pissing all over Fedor's achievements and legacy. Just like Chuck was, the guy is a legend.

I'm sure the site has crashed already

Gerard.C · 13-02-2011 5:17am

Stuffy wrote: »

Keep your disrespectful comments for the pro-wrestling forum "my boy".

The legacy of Fedor Emelianenko will never be questioned, the greatest fighter to ever grace the MMA world. You should be appreciative you got to witness it and not sneering at the epitomy of a true fighter.

Disrespectful how? Did I offend Fedor?

If he was a true fighter he would have went to the UFC. Tis all a money racket anyway

Fall_Guy · 13-02-2011 5:18am

Gerard.C wrote: »

Cos now hes retiring with a mangled face having never fought in the UFC. Thats where the big boys play

you must be joking? why should the man have accepted lesser terms to fight people that were no better than what was on offer in strikeforce? neither cain nor dos santos were at the level they are at now and no one else in the ufc would have posed any problems to fedor, from what i have seen. brock? would have tasted a few punches and ran and gotten beaten down by a smaller man. mir? would have lost on the feet or the ground? after that who is there? i'm sure he's reasonably happy with his career moves even if ufc fanboys are not.

Gerard.C · 13-02-2011 5:19am

Jayo_M wrote: »

Going by your posts you know next to nothing. Brock doesn't like getting hit in the face, and he'd have Fedor 'for brecky'? Once Carwin can go more than 5 minutes, then he can be considered a top fighter maybe. Remember Gonzaga had him seeing stars?

Going by your posts you jump to conclusions.

Jayo_M · 13-02-2011 5:19am

Gerard.C wrote: »

Disrespectful how? Did I offend Fedor?

If he was a true fighter he would have went to the UFC. Tis all a money racket anyway

Is that you Dana?

....meh! · 13-02-2011 5:19am

Gerard.C wrote: »

So Carwin is gone cos Brock made him tap? Lets not forget auld Brocky. Fedor obviously doesnt like bigger men being on top of him, going by tonight Brock would have him from brecky

i wont forget Brocky but by your logic he's gone because Cain made him run away. Him and Carwin arn't at the level of Cain, JDS and the top Strikeforce hws. Hw is a poor division in UFC and Dana hates it.
Have a look at PRIDE lad that'll show you how a prime Fedor liked big men.

Gerard.C · 13-02-2011 5:20am

Jayo_M wrote: »

Is that you Dana?

If I was Dana would I have streamed the PPV? :pac:

SanoVitae · 13-02-2011 5:20am

Maybe it's Gerard who likes big men.....

Jayo_M · 13-02-2011 5:22am

Gerard.C wrote: »

If I was Dana would I have streamed the PPV? :pac:

Probably, he wouldn't put money into Strikeforce's pockets

Gerard.C · 13-02-2011 5:22am

....meh! wrote: »

i wont forget Brocky but by your logic he's gone because Cain made him run away. Him and Carwin arn't at the level of Cain, JDS and the top Strikeforce hws. Hw is a poor division in UFC and Dana hates it.
Have a look at PRIDE lad that'll show you how a prime Fedor liked big men.

What top SF heavyweights? Arlovski?

edit yeah never heard of Pride til now, nice one

digme · 13-02-2011 5:22am

diminishing returns you fcking meat heads................
Fedor trains his ass off, after being beat tonight, how can he train harder?
He probably trained harder for this fight than his previous ones.
Fedor is a beast, but he's getting older now.

Gerard.C · 13-02-2011 5:24am

SanoVitae wrote: »

Maybe it's Gerard who likes big men.....

Nice train of thought ya have goin there...

Stuffy · 13-02-2011 5:24am

Gerard.C wrote: »

HA! Shoulda went to the UFC there Fedor my boy eh?

Gerard.C wrote: »

Cos now hes retiring with a mangled face having never fought in the UFC. Thats where the big boys play

Gerard.C wrote: »

Disrespectful how? Did I offend Fedor?

If he was a true fighter he would have went to the UFC. Tis all a money racket anyway

I would find the bolded disrespectful. It seems to me you think that because he never fought in the UFC it hampered his legacy? It didn't and won't.

The big boys play? Well the biggest of them all never fought there and it will take someone very special to ever out do his legacy in the MMA world.

Gerard.C · 13-02-2011 5:28am

Stuffy wrote: »

I would find the bolded disrespectful. It seems to me you think that because he never fought in the UFC it hampered his legacy? It didn't and won't.

The big boys play? Well the biggest of them all never fought there and it will take someone very special to ever out do his legacy in the MMA world.

You need to lighten up if you find that disrespectful. No offence.

It hasnt hampered his legacy, but he would have been fighting real competiion in the UFC for the last few years. His last 2 big fights were bad loses. He got fairly rocked by Rogers too at one stage. Til then who was he fighting after Pride, Hong Man Choi?

Anderson Silva is quite the special man I would think he would be the right man for the job myself :cool:

Jayo_M · 13-02-2011 5:34am

Since leaving Pride he also beat Sylvia, who had only lost twice in his previous 9 fights (all in the UFC), losing to Big Nog. He also beat Arlovski, who was riding a 5-fight win streak at the time, 3 of which were in UFC which he left over a contract dispute. So, two guys who were pretty much at the top of the HW division - I think Arlovski was ranked number 2 at the time. So yea, he fought the best the HW division had to offer at the time going by concensus rankings. He was also due to fight Couture, but Dana prevented that with legal action, and was due to fight Barnett but we all know what happened there.

Stuffy · 13-02-2011 5:51am

Gerard.C wrote: »

You need to lighten up if you find that disrespectful. No offence.

It hasnt hampered his legacy, but he would have been fighting real competiion in the UFC for the last few years. His last 2 big fights were bad loses. He got fairly rocked by Rogers too at one stage. Til then who was he fighting after Pride, Hong Man Choi?

Anderson Silva is quite the special man I would think he would be the right man for the job myself :cool:

He would have mauled Werdum imo but he got caught and made a mistake, tonight he was just overpowered really and maybe it is time to retire.

Your lack of knowledge of MMA is shining through when you say he got rocked by Rogers, so what? Silva got rocked by Sonnen, Lesnar by Carwin, Cain was rocked by Cheick Kongo, what is your point? Anyone can get rocked.

Even though I'm not a fan of M1, I'm glad Fedor didn't bow to the hands of Dana White, he didn't need to go to the UFC.

Silva is the greatest fighter imo at the moment but his disrespect at times is sickening, most notably Damian Maia.

Fedor was the full package, the epitomy of what every Mixed Martial Artist should aspire to. The guy oozed skill, class and elegance.

DrPhilG · 13-02-2011 6:19am

He he!

Vince135792003 · 13-02-2011 8:46am

If this was his last fight, he will go down in history as a true legend. In the early 2000's in Pride, his fights with Nogueira were epic.

Post Pride, you can in my opinion legitimately interpret his career in different ways. On the 1 hand he did beat 2 former UFC champions in Silvia and Arlovski and at the time Fedor beat them, it meant alot more than it means today perhaps given their demise.

On the other, while his fights with Lindland and Hong Man Choi were entertaining and displayed his amazing ability it can't be said that he was actively fighting the best out there.

I was disappointed in 2007 when UFC made him a big offer and he didn't go and he became a little less relevant for me.

With all that said, a truly amazing fighter. He has a highlight reel of epic MMA moments that few if any can match.

DrPhilG · 13-02-2011 9:48am

Given the vice like grip that M-1 have on Fedor's nuts, I wonder whether he'll have the option to retire!

SDTimeout · 13-02-2011 10:00am

Gerard.C wrote: »

Disrespectful how? Did I offend Fedor?

If he was a true fighter he would have went to the UFC. Tis all a money racket anyway

Best paradox ever.

DrPhilG · 13-02-2011 10:48am

As much as I dislike M-1, I have nothing but respect for Fedor himself. As genuine and humble a man as there is in the sport. I chuckled when Silva won because I could imagine the reaction of the nut jobs on Sherdog, but watching Fedor's interview, I couldn't help but feel for him.

drayme · 13-02-2011 11:03am

If you think Fedor not going to UFC wont damage his legacy, you dont understand how history is written in sports like this.

His last fight with Werdum hurt his aura/relevancy more than I initially thought it would but last night's fight really done a number on it.

People on here may have a breakdown over this but it is pretty obvious now to see why Fedor backed out on facing someone of Brock's size after UFC gave him everything he wanted to sign.

Jayo_M · 13-02-2011 11:25am

drayme wrote: »

If you think Fedor not going to UFC wont damage his legacy, you dont understand how history is written in sports like this.

His last fight with Werdum hurt his aura/relevancy more than I initially thought it would but last night's fight really done a number on it.

People on here may have a breakdown over this but it is pretty obvious now to see why Fedor backed out on facing someone of Brock's size after UFC gave him everything he wanted to sign.

But they didn't. He wanted co-promotion, and UFC (rightly, in my opinion) would never agree to that with a company the size of M-1.

the_doctor199 · 13-02-2011 11:32am

Dana White certainly enjoyed it, kept it simple..

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Spoilers - Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Silva - This Saturday

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