Heroin hell!

Plug

Yeah, series crap going on there. We have nothing wrong here compared to that. See your one all AIDS and all!

Badgermonkey

Plug wrote: »

Yeah, series crap

An apt review.

MinnyMinor

Fluffybums wrote: »

Then of course there is codeine, also an opiate,

10% of which turns to heroin in the body

Queen-Mise

141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »

Anyone see the new Ross Kemp series about heroin in the US? Pritty messed up.

What is the name of that show and when is it on. I like Ross Kemp; he has a decent name for himself. The Americans leave a lot to be desired in looking after their poor - would be interesting to see how it is portrayed.

MinnyMinor

Badgermonkey wrote: »

You can of course bring god into the discussion if you so wish.

I could also bring up the ongoing problem with an airlock in my central heating system.

I fail to see the relevance of either in the context of the topic under discussion.

when did anyone turn to your heating system to beat drugs. i am not a god person but people have turned to god and been able to get off drugs for whatever eason

MinnyMinor

Maxiebaby wrote: »

The drug dealers are getting soooo cheeky they deal the drugs out in the open and don't bother hiding it when ppl are walking past:mad:! my friend was talking to one of the known dealers in KK last year and while she was talking he was sorting out stuff in his pockets etc and proceeded to 'pop a few packs up his ass' while she was still talking:eek::eek:! they have become so immune to it all it's 'normal' now!

As for help for those trying to get off.... I trapesed up and down the country trying to help a guy I know since he was a lovely kid running around the place.... unless he was clean for 6 weeks before being accepted into a treatment centre he wouldn't be accepted and the waiting lists were 5-8 months long to get the call that he needed to be clean 6 weeks before hand for! in fairness if they can get themselves clean for 6 weeks they don't realy need the treatment centre.... the only place that would take them straight away without having to be clean is victory outreach in Navan, I know they are in Dublin and looking for a house in KK and Limerick now too, but they are not funded by the government.... the system is useless when it comes to these guys looking for help! .... why can't they get prison inmates to get up and build more prisons, treatment centres, playgrounds etc?.... we need 'tent city' put up in the middle of the curragh! might make them think twice about having to do time!

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f80/t491695.html

Raze_them_all

Maxiebaby wrote: »

The drug dealers are getting soooo cheeky they deal the drugs out in the open and don't bother hiding it when ppl are walking past:mad:! my friend was talking to one of the known dealers in KK last year and while she was talking he was sorting out stuff in his pockets etc and proceeded to 'pop a few packs up his ass' while she was still talking:eek::eek:! they have become so immune to it all it's 'normal' now!

As for help for those trying to get off.... I trapesed up and down the country trying to help a guy I know since he was a lovely kid running around the place.... unless he was clean for 6 weeks before being accepted into a treatment centre he wouldn't be accepted and the waiting lists were 5-8 months long to get the call that he needed to be clean 6 weeks before hand for! in fairness if they can get themselves clean for 6 weeks they don't realy need the treatment centre.... the only place that would take them straight away without having to be clean is victory outreach in Navan, I know they are in Dublin and looking for a house in KK and Limerick now too, but they are not funded by the government.... the system is useless when it comes to these guys looking for help! .... why can't they get prison inmates to get up and build more prisons, treatment centres, playgrounds etc?.... we need 'tent city' put up in the middle of the curragh! might make them think twice about having to do time!

Well unlike the us, our prison officers don't have guns of any sort, they only have battons which rarely get issued. Plus our prisons by in large are near towns compared to americans which can place prisons further away from the population

MinnyMinor wrote: »

when did anyone turn to your heating system to beat drugs. i am not a god person but people have turned to god and been able to get off drugs for whatever eason

Your getting confused here. She said she's blaming the lack of god for people doing drugs. I'm athiest therefore by that reasoning I should be shooting up all the time. People could believe in Oidin and Valhalla for all I care if they think it helps them get off drugs. Nobody blames god for the bad things, A hurricane comes, loads die, people thank god they were saved. A team wins the world cup they thank god, yet I doubt the losing team thinks there was divine intervention

MinnyMinor

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Well unlike the us, our prison officers don't have guns of any sort, they only have battons which rarely get issued. Plus our prisons by in large are near towns compared to americans which can place prisons further away from the population

Your getting confused here. She said she's blaming the lack of god for people doing drugs. I'm athiest therefore by that reasoning I should be shooting up all the time. People could believe in Oidin and Valhalla for all I care if they think it helps them get off drugs. Nobody blames god for the bad things, A hurricane comes, loads die, people thank god they were saved. A team wins the world cup they thank god, yet I doubt the losing team thinks there was divine intervention

point was there is no comparison between a heating system and god as some turn to god. bad analogy

Raze_them_all

MinnyMinor wrote: »

point was there is no comparison between a heating system and god as some turn to god. bad analogy

Good point, Heating systems exist.

Healium

MinnyMinor wrote: »

point was there is no comparison between a heating system and god as some turn to god. bad analogy

Minny, you might want to re-read this thread. You don't seem to understand the points that were made. Nobody said that people turn to heating to beat drugs.

One poster blamed "a total lack of God" for the drug problem. Numerous posters felt that this was silly, off-topic. Badgermonkey felt that mentioning his airlock was just as relevant to the topic.

fabbydabby

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Good point, Heating systems exist.

You'll know ALL about heat when you're condemmed to the fiery pit for your heresy.

Raze_them_all

fabbydabby wrote: »

You'll know ALL about heat when you're condemmed to the fiery pit for your heresy.

I'd be worried if I didn't.....how else would cremation work without fire

PhilipMarlowe

The reports of a certain death was an exaggeration...
Alive and, er, kicking...
/gets coat.

fabbydabby

Indeed Licksy, one could say that the only thing that is truly certain is Raze's impending eternal internment within the fiery confines of Danté's sixth circle.

MinnyMinor

Here Nick Davies flat earth news about heroin. I am not pro heroin but think it makes interesting reading

Plug

Licksy wrote: »

The reports of a certain death was an exaggeration...
Alive and, er, kicking...
/gets coat.

Yeah Im absolutely gutted now!:D

MinnyMinor

Plug wrote: »

Yeah Im absolutely gutted now!:D

who is deals on wheels?

Firetrap

Someone once drew a cartoon of him and posted it here. If only I could remember who it was

Plug

MinnyMinor wrote: »

who is deals on wheels?

yah:(

Healium

Another young life lost on Friday morning

Threadhead

In the city?

Healium

No, out in the shticks.

I should have clarified, I don't think it was a heroin death, but it was definitely drugs-related. 19 years old, with a baby on the way....

Raze_them_all

where bouts? comer?

Henne220

Raze_them_all wrote: »

where bouts? comer?

Just a bit outside Callan..

Plug

Another one bites the dust.

Autosport

Henne220 wrote: »

Just a bit outside Callan..

Heard about this tonight

gorilla_ie

It was an overdose of valium apparently ...

stupidity also had a part in this

Interesting article in Irish Times today that highlights Kilkenny and the work of Joe Malone in trying to tackle the heroin issue.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2011/0514/1224296915819.html

patrickc

Davidian_ie wrote: »

Interesting article in Irish Times today that highlights Kilkenny and the work of Joe Malone in trying to tackle the heroin issue.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2011/0514/1224296915819.html

interesting indeed.

There are other drugs workers than the part time one, but he's outreach the others are HSE Counsellors , Drugs Education, and drugs initative workers etc.

TheoBoone

I'm from Kilkenny. I grew up in the city and lived there full-time until I was 19. I still spend almost every weekend in Kilkenny and have a large number of friends there. I'm amazed that I don't know even one person who has ever even tried heroin. I'm not suggesting that there isn't a heroin problem in Kilkenny. I'm sure there is. I'm just wondering how in such a small town like Kilkenny, a local person can spend 25 years going out and spending time there, know a load of people and still never have seen ANY evidence of a heroin problem.

Raze_them_all

TheoBoone wrote: »

I'm from Kilkenny. I grew up in the city and lived there full-time until I was 19. I still spend almost every weekend in Kilkenny and have a large number of friends there. I'm amazed that I don't know even one person who has ever even tried heroin. I'm not suggesting that there isn't a heroin problem in Kilkenny. I'm sure there is. I'm just wondering how in such a small town like Kilkenny, a local person can spend 25 years going out and spending time there, know a load of people and still never have seen ANY evidence of a heroin problem.

You sure you don't know anyone?

Off the top of my head I can think of 8 people that were in my class.

TheoBoone

Raze_them_all wrote: »

You sure you don't know anyone?

Off the top of my head I can think of 8 people that were in my class.

Not one!!!

Then again, the more I think about it, my original post was kinda stupid. Heroin is illegal, and an addiction to it is something which people tend not to advertise. It's just sad to think that such an awful drug could lurk beneath the surface of such a nice sleepy little town like KK.

Raze_them_all

TheoBoone wrote: »

Not one!!!

Then again, the more I think about it, my original post was kinda stupid. Heroin is illegal, and an addiction to it is something which people tend not to advertise. It's just sad to think that such an awful drug could lurk beneath the surface of such a nice sleepy little town like KK.

It's in every single town and village no matter how small or sleepy

countryliving

yeh i lived in dublin around rialto thomas st and drug addicts were prevalent. i live out the country 20 mins from the city and basically had rose tinted glasses on me until last summer. i was working near johns green and i used walk up a certain street and lots of drug addicts early morning, it was so sad and apparently in the village i live in lots of drugs here as well......a lot of it is hidden i would think as well considering drugs are illegal

goose2005

The only people who benefit from this are the other dealers who now see some territory into which to expand. If Tesco went bankrupt, the number of Superquinns would double, and this is no different.

Plug

goose2005 wrote: »

The only people who benefit from this are the other dealers who now see some territory into which to expand. If Tesco went bankrupt, the number of Superquinns would double, and this is no different.

Not in Kilkenny since we dont have Tesco:p

Captain Havoc

Plug wrote: »

Not in Kilkenny since we dont have Tesco:p

That's why there's double the Dunnes