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Dragon Age 2
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Finished it tonight. Really enjoyed it overall. Definitely some bad features, which have been talked about here already, but overall i think it was a great game. Took me 30 hours to clear, with nearly all side quests completed.
Ending Spoilers -So i was kind of annoyed how things turned out at the end. I spend the entire game protecting the Mages, saying that not all of them are evil blah blah, and the First Enchanter goes all Blood Mage on me. Seemed kind of stupid, but i guess it just shows that they were pushed too far by the Templars.
I'm really interested to see how certain decisions would be different if i had been a Mage myself...time to start playing again i think
Would someone who has finished or at least got quite far in the game answer me two questions. What is the level cap and do you get multiple class specialisations or just the one?
Not sure what the cap is, but i'd say you'd be hard pressed to reach it with a normal play through. I was lvl24 when i finished it, and did pretty much every side quest (bar 2 i think). And you get two specialisation points through the game, at lvl7 and lvl14 (iirc)0 -
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Finished it this morning. 35 or so hours total. Enjoyed it although Act 3 is really short compared to act 1 and 2. The ending does feel rushed.
I'm going to list some stuff that happened through my playthrough so if everybody wants to list their choices, we can compare and have a laugh. Off the top of my head mind, so I might miss stuff. Bare in mind this is a long game so.....Long post incoming
I was going to use spoiler tags but it would blank out the entire post and be annoying so.....
SPOILER ALERT
Right well, I went with a Warrior(two hander) which basically means Carver dies at the start and Bethany lives....they did this for party balance I think.
I did the vast majority of the game with Aveline as my tank, Isabela as rogue dps and Anders as healer/debuffer. Worked quite well. I would swap anders out occasionally for bethany or Merril for some more dps.
I agreed to take Flemiths medallion thingy to the top of the mountain. When I got there, she flew off and I never saw her again. Bit surprised she didn't show up later but obviously they needed to "retcon" her back to life because most people killed her in Dragon Age 1.
I Bought my way into kirkwall by doing jobs for that Merc.....but refused to kill people so he ambushed me later and I killed him good and proper.
I left Bethany behind when going into the deep roads as I had a feeling she would die. She does apparently if you take her. If you leave her behind, she gets abducted by the templars and has to spend 80% of the game in the Circle of mages so you cant use her in your party. I found this a shame as her AoE spells are immense.
Bertrand betrayed me in the deep roads....I didn't make a deal with the Rock Demon thing and killed him. Good fight this. Hiding behind the pillar to escape his AoE attack reminded me of World of warcraft though.
When I caught up with Bertrand he had gone insane from the idol and I let Varric kill him for revenge. Varric wanted the Idol and went a bit mad but I made him give it up and I used Sandal, the dopey "enchantment?" kid to destroy it.
I sided with Mages alot throughout the game. My champion was a Mage in Dragon age 1 so I felt sorry for them being abducted all the time. Lots of blood mages though :rolleyes:.
The Viscounts son ended up dying when he converted to the Qunari's religion.
My mother also ended up dying. I killed that blood mage who was after the "flower killer" instead of going after the killer myself so I think this is what got her killed. He ended up kidnapping her for her face....zombie style.
I went 50/50 with the dude who owned the mine but dragons kept coming back so they all died eventually. The large High dragon was real tough to kill. Took me a good 10 minutes. Longest fight in the game by far. Lots of potion usage but got him first time out which was cool.
I helped Isabella get her relic to save herself as she was my romantic interest. Great dialogue. She ran off with it though.....and came back just in time to give it to the arishok. I ended up killing the Arishok. I denied his duel and my party helped me kill him. He was a bit of a douche. Happy he died.
One quest I found interesting was where you escort the Qunari who doesn't talk and has the giant lock on his face. He ended up killing himself and I'm curious if you can get him as a party member if you choose a different option. Probably not though.
I reunited My Uncle with his estranged daughter and I think I made her keep the Gem he was after.
Alistair showed up as king for a bit of dialogue so that was cool.
Fenris ended up killing everyone who had wronged him.
Isabela got her Giant boat.
I took merril from the dalish and helped her reconstruct the mirror. Her keeper was possessed and I killed her. I managed to talk the dalish into not fighting.
Aveline fell in love with one of the other guards.
Anders. Wow. He killed that mage girl by accident. I tried to help him get rid of his demon and in my game....at the end he blew up the Chantry and killed buckets of people :eek: I killed him in retribution but he didn't fight it.
I sided with The mage enchanter against Knight Commander Meredith. He ended up using blood magic and becoming possessed though :rolleyes:(sigh) and he died. I also killed Meredith in the end aswell. Went off into the sunset with Isabela.
Thats it pretty much. All I could think of off the top of my head. Enjoyed it. Still prefer Dragon age 1 though.0 -
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I was gifted this on Steam, so that solved my problem of not wanting to buy it.
My opinion of it is still the same. On it's own, it's not a bad RPG. Nothing remarkable, but fun and has it's moments (I'm quite fond of Merrill). Not really keen on any of the others so far.
The fact that a lot of the minor dialogue choices don't make a difference to the NPC's reply is really grating. The dumbed down conversations are almost heartbreaking in comparison to old Bioware games. Almost all the loot having the "Usable by Hawk" tag is annoying. The "junk" inventory is moronic and just takes up space. Reusing locations is lazy, and still the locations are criminally underused, empty affairs. The fights are repetative and you can actually tell what is going to appear and where, when you start a section. And some of the quests just seem to resolve themselves for no reason (the ones where you find something and instantly know who to give it to and where they'll be, despite the item description not giving any clues).
But despite all these faults I am enjoying it. It's not a great game by any stretch of the imagination. I wouldn't even class it was a Bioware game, more an EA game trying to emulate Bioware. And that's my main problem with it. I wanted a sequel to Dragon Age: Origins, and got a spin off instead. It unfair to hold it against the game, but it seems they were so close to getting it so right that it's hard to forgive them for getting it so wrong.
I guess I'm just bitter in my old age. 0 -
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I was gifted this on Steam, so that solved my problem of not wanting to buy it.
My opinion of it is still the same. On it's own, it's not a bad RPG. Nothing remarkable, but fun and has it's moments (I'm quite fond of Merrill). Not really keen on any of the others so far.
The fact that a lot of the minor dialogue choices don't make a difference to the NPC's reply is really grating. The dumbed down conversations are almost heartbreaking in comparison to old Bioware games. Almost all the loot having the "Usable by Hawk" tag is annoying. The "junk" inventory is moronic and just takes up space. Reusing locations is lazy, and still the locations are criminally underused, empty affairs. The fights are repetative and you can actually tell what is going to appear and where, when you start a section. And some of the quests just seem to resolve themselves for no reason (the ones where you find something and instantly know who to give it to and where they'll be, despite the item description not giving any clues).
But despite all these faults I am enjoying it. It's not a great game by any stretch of the imagination. I wouldn't even class it was a Bioware game, more an EA game trying to emulate Bioware. And that's my main problem with it. I wanted a sequel to Dragon Age: Origins, and got a spin off instead. It unfair to hold it against the game, but it seems they were so close to getting it so right that it's hard to forgive them for getting it so wrong.
I guess I'm just bitter in my old age.
It does lack a certain epic feel that DA:O and Mass Effect had and like Mass Effect 2 seems to suffer from the changes made to both sequels with the streamlining for consoles or EA involvement or both.
Graphics wise is amazing with the HD texture pack an all settings maxed out and I like the new combat system tho the skills system feels rather restrictive compared to the first game. The loading screens are really well done and very fast as well.
Story wise it really isn't anything special and unlike every other Bioware RPG its seems like it dosent make any difference in what dialogue options you pick for 95% of the game and this totally kills replay value. The fact that so many characters can't be saved from their fate really bugged me and killed the idea of being the hero of the story.
I honestly feel Bioware dropped the ball bigtime on Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 2 to a smaller degree and have gone from a company whose games I would buy without the need of review to a company who I will now require very positive feedback to consider a purchase.0 -
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WASD was switched to WQES which makes no sense to me with A & D being camera controls. I don't use WASD anyway, I prefer RDFG as there's a whole slew of options for using QWAS\ZX and TYGHVBN as extras - just put your fingers on RDFG and see how many more options you have But maybe that's another discussion...
I thought that maybe my controller wasn't being picked up in Windows (I've never had reason to use it before), but I tried it on other stuff and it's definitely working. I will have another look to see if I can enable it somehow.
Anyway, using the mouse + button to control camera felt natural to a point, but again, my main beef is that this is a real time "hack 'n' slash" combat game with what appears to be turn based controls which is why I feel it's essential that you use a controller. They've designed this to be a stripped down Action game with RPG elements rather than an RPG like the last game which is the only reason I wanted to play it cause having looked at someone else playing it, I thought the first game was awful. I also think WoW is awful and only dabbled in it once for an hour at a friend's house. That's just my preferences, I don't enjoy that sort of game. I play table top "dice, pen and paper" RPGs and find them far more interesting and fun. I also LARP a bit, so I get my "proper RPG" fix that way
All that said, I spent a full day playing a pre-alpha of The Old Republic which is also Bioware and after an hour or so, I was able to map the controls into my head. They were extremely off-putting to me though and given it was such an early build, we had no ability to re-map them.0 -
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Have to say, the thing that annoys me the most is the AI. Absolutely appalling standard of path finding. Characters getting stuck behind walls and the like, end up being half the map away from you when you go into battle.
Once and had Bethandy and Varric forgot how to turn a corner, so they went all the way back to the beginning of the level so they could go down the parallel route that sort of came near me, but separated by a wall. Ridiculous.
Not to mention, if yer ever struggling, just target all mages/archers first then run your tank around like an idiot. The bad guys don't just get attracted to you, they actually follow your path! You can run around for hours like this and a pack of enemies will never land a blow.
And is it just me, but queuing up moves doesn't seem to work like it used? Once you take focus off a character, they seem to just to their own thing irrespective of whether you've told them to do anything.
Fed up of my characters dying when that Heal I selected was never cast.
Having said that I am still enjoying it (about 12 hours in), it does get a bit hack and slash tedious at times but once you bump up the difficulty it compensates for it a little.
Overall I think it's a good game spoiled somewhat by being rushed to market. I can see what the developers were trying to do, but I think they bit off a bit more than they could chew in trying to keep everyone happy and yet still releasing it so soon after the first. Standard publisher driven sequel tbh, scratches an itch reasonably well yet could have been so much more.0 -
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AnCapaillMor wrote: »Meant to ask what changes when you load a save from DA:O. have my saves on a drive after a hd swapout on the PS3 but never bothered to load them on.
Well if you use the DA:O save you get some chat about what you did in it during events,Alastair , popped up in my game drunk as a skunk in the hanged man and saves you the trouble of having to play the game twice for the Epic trophy / achievement. That was all I really noticed. 0 -
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