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Garden Moth Recording 2011

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    With the temperature drop and general weather deterioration I'm officially back to my early spring moth numbers. Just two moths in the trap this morning.
    1x lesser BB yellow underwing
    1 x bright line brown eye*

    *I assumed brght line brown eye but now I'm wondering is it a bit late:confused: Maybe something else? Didn't take a pic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭thebishop


    Still getting a few here despite the northerly wind.
    Large Yellow underwing x 8
    Least Yellow Underwing x 3
    Lesser broad- bordered yellow Underwing x 16
    Lesser Yellow Underwing x 3
    Rosy Rustic x 3
    Light Brown Apple Moth x 1
    Flame Shoulder x 3
    Canary-shouldered thorn x 1
    Small Phoenix x 1
    Popular Hawk Moth x 1
    Small Square Spot x 1
    Comon white Wave x 1
    True Lover Knot x 1
    Small Wainscot x 1
    Ear Moth x 1
    Agriphila Tristella x 11


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    Got our first Copper Underwing of the year last night, despite the rain. Having serious problems with a greedy Robin grabbing moths. It comes right in while I'm sorting the catch and grabs them out of the egg trays:mad:
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    Had a big catch. Very mild with min of 15C.
    Highlight is a Convolvulus Hawk-moth :D
    It's huge :eek:
    I'll get photos later

    I got my timing wrong with getting out to trap and robin(s) had cleaned up the sheet. I needed to be about 10 minutes earlier

    0461 Ypsolopha ustella 1
    0672 Parsnip Moth (Depressaria heraclei) 1
    0873 Blastobasis adustella 5
    1038x Acleris laterana/comariana 3
    1044x Acleris ferrugana/notana 1
    1076 Celypha lacunana 2
    1138 Epinotia nisella 1
    1309 Agriphila geniculea 2
    1388 Udea lutealis 3
    1395 Rusty-dot Pearl (Udea ferrugalis) 1
    1405 Mother of Pearl (Pleuroptya ruralis) 1
    1722 Flame Carpet (Xanthorhoe designata) 1
    1738 Common Carpet (Epirrhoe alternata) 1
    1762 Dark Marbled Carpet (Chloroclysta citrata) 1
    1906 Brimstone Moth (Opisthograptis luteolata) 3
    1972 Convolvulus Hawk-moth (Agrius convolvuli) 1
    2049 Buff Footman (Eilema depressa) 2
    2050 Common Footman (Eilema lurideola) 1
    2089 Heart and Dart (Agrotis exclamationis) 1
    2102 Flame Shoulder (Ochropleura plecta) 1
    2107 Large Yellow Underwing (Noctua pronuba) 42
    2109 Lesser Yellow Underwing (Noctua comes) 15
    2110 Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing (Noctua fimbriata) 3
    2111 Lesser Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing (Noctua janthe) 55
    2121 Barred Chestnut (Diarsia dahlii) 1
    2123 Small Square-spot (Diarsia rubi) 3
    2126 Setaceous Hebrew Character (Xestia c-nigrum) 154
    2133 Six-striped Rustic (Xestia sexstrigata) 2
    2134 Square-spot Rustic (Xestia xanthographa) 73
    2198 Smoky Wainscot (Mythimna impura) 4
    2199 Common Wainscot (Mythimna pallens) 1
    2269 Centre-barred Sallow (Atethmia centrago) 1
    2274 Sallow (Xanthia icteritia) 1
    2306 Angle Shades (Phlogophora meticulosa) 2
    2321 Dark Arches (Apamea monoglypha) 4
    2343x Common Rustic agg. (Mesapamea secalis agg.) 13
    2350 Small Wainscot (Chortodes pygmina) 2
    2361 Rosy Rustic (Hydraecia micacea) 24
    2364 Frosted Orange (Gortyna flavago) 1
    2368 Crescent (Celaena leucostigma) 1
    2439 Gold Spot (Plusia festucae) 3
    2484 Pinion-streaked Snout (Schrankia costaestrigalis) 1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    Some from this morning.
    The tray with the Convulvulus Hawk-moth. What a surprise :D
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    Here it is with a Large Yellow Underwing for size.
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    In my son's hands
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    View of head
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    Frosted Orange
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    Gold Spot
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    Centre-barred Sallow
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    And a couple moths from a few days back.
    3 views of Canary-shouldered Thorn
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    Sallow
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭Gardener3


    :) Wow, that is one stunning Hawk-moth!

    Didn't feel too great last night so the trap is going out tonight instead though the temperature is forecast to be quite a bit cooler - might be lucky though and fingers crossed for something nice


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 cooley wildlife photography


    stunning shots Angus


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭Gardener3


    It felt really cold last night!
    Not surprising there wasn't much flying, singles of most but 9 Pink-barred Sallows. The Engrailed was a surprise as I haven't seen one for weeks and it didn't look very worn.

    Acleris laterana / comariana
    Blastobasis adustella
    Common Marbled Carpet
    Common Rustic agg
    Dark Arches
    Early Thorn
    Engrailed/Small Engrailed
    Holly Tortrix
    July Highflyer
    Large Yellow Underwing
    Pink-barred Sallow
    Rosy Rustic
    Small Square-spot
    Square-spot Rustic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭thebishop


    I trapped last night also instead of Friday.
    Brimstone x 1
    Flame Shoulder x 2
    Gold Spot x 1
    Aughust Thorn x 1
    Large Yellow Undrwing x 4
    Lesser Yellow Underwing x 5
    Least Yellow Underwing x 2
    Treble-bar x 1
    Dark Arches x 2
    Setaceous Hebrew Character x 1
    Uncertain x 1
    Twin Spot Carpet x 1
    Ear Moth x 1
    Straw Dot x 1
    Bryotropha domestica x 1
    Agriphila Tristella x 1


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    thebishop wrote: »
    I trapped last night also instead of Friday.
    ...
    Least Yellow Underwing x 2
    ...

    Would you check that these are not Square-spot Rustic. Perhaps check hindwings.
    I noticed Least Yellow Underwing on your previous list and am surprised by lack of Square-spot Rustic. It is past peak season of Least Yellow Underwing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭thebishop


    Mothman wrote: »
    Would you check that these are not Square-spot Rustic. Perhaps check hindwings.
    I noticed Least Yellow Underwing on your previous list and am surprised by lack of Square-spot Rustic. It is past peak season of Least Yellow Underwing.

    They were fairly well worn and I dont take pics of the ones I think I know so im afraid it too late to check now.:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    Check them the next time you trap if you get another Least Yellow Underwing
    SSR will be around for next few weeks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭Gardener3


    I'm about 20 miles inland from thebishop and recorded 5 Least Yellow Underwing's on Sept 1st, one of them below. Also had an Engrailed/Small Engrailed on Sept 3rd which seems to be about a fortnight later than the previous 'latest' on the MothsIreland map.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    I suspect there will be more "late" reports after the coldest summer for 25-49 years.

    It certainly isn't late for Least Yellow Underwing, it was the lack of Square-spot Rustics in bishop's list that I'm curious about and was trying to find a reason.

    but I'm sitting at a desk in Wicklow and the reason may be entirely a environmental one and not recorder error :) and I'll accept that its ridiculous to judge from where I'm sitting :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    first reasonably calm night here for ages so the trap is out. If I don't get more than 2 moths I might just give up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭thebishop


    littlebug wrote: »
    first reasonably calm night here for ages so the trap is out. If I don't get more than 2 moths I might just give up!

    Dont give up. Move to Wicklow.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    thebishop wrote: »
    Dont give up. Move to Wicklow.:D

    :D Not that desperate :p:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    littlebug wrote: »
    :D Not that desperate :p:pac:
    Phew :pac:


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    A lovely summers day and nothing at all of insect life on stephens green. I rarely see a butterfly or bee or anything else.I remember the meadows ALIVE with insects in the 1950s.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    paddyandy wrote: »
    A lovely summers day and nothing at all of insect life on stephens green. I rarely see a butterfly or bee or anything else.I remember the meadows ALIVE with insects in the 1950s.

    My Dad did some moth trapping back in the 50's. He was shocked when he saw how low modern catches are in comparison. Insect life has been decimated by modern pesticides and habitat loss:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    littlebug wrote: »
    If I don't get more than 2 moths I might just give up!

    :D 3 moths, the two below and a white shouldered house moth that snuck in just to keep me in the game :pac:

    First I had this down as a Least Yellow Underwing, then due to the discussion on the previous page I thought it must be Square Spot Rustic... except it had a definite yellow/ orange underwing so I'm none the wiser :pac:

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    I can't find my book and have been trawling through online pics for this one but can't find it :o
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    I'll stick my neck out and ID the first as a lesser broad bordered yellow underwing. Don't recognize the 2nd, it looks interesting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭Gardener3


    :) Glad the White-shouldered House-moth showed up to keep you mothing!

    Half-cocked is right with his ID of Lesser Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing for the first and the second is a Rosy Rustic


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    I should have known LBBYU- been looking at them for weeks :o I just thought that one looked different :rolleyes:

    Rosy Rustic.... so it is. I'm not on the ball today at all! Now where is my book?! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    Gardener3 wrote: »
    ..... the second is a Rosy Rustic

    Should have known that, I had one last month, a browner coloured one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    I think we've just demonstrated the variability of moths, with a Rosy rustic that isn't 'rosy' and LB in your defence the LBBYU is slightly different to norm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    i'm not trusting my own judgement at all anymore:o Id on this one?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    Lesser Yellow Underwing :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭Gardener3


    Continuing with Rosy Rustic's how about these two from last night!

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    :confused::confused::confused: I am totally stumped with this one - if it wasn't September I'd be wondering Square Spot ......

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