Garden Moth Recording 2011

trebor28

Mothman wrote: »

It's an Oak Eggar

one big moth

littlebug

Oak Eggar = Abhóga Darach .
That's useful to know isn't it;) I've been hoping to find one in the trap but no luck yet.

GMS night. I've lost track of what week we're on again

littlebug

Not hard to count the moths this morning.

2 x large yellow underwing
1x lesser bb yellow underwing
1x magpie

Half-cocked

First Angle Shades of the year last night:

Mothman

70+ species last night, similar to previous week.
Disappointing catch LB

0453 Honeysuckle Moth (Ypsolopha dentella) 1
0868 Helcystogramma rufescens 3
0873 Blastobasis adustella 15
0964 Cochylis dubitana 1
0969 Chequered Fruit-tree Tortrix (Pandemis corylana) 5
1048 Garden Rose Tortrix (Acleris variegana) 1
1076 Celypha lacunana 1
1104 Endothenia quadrimaculana 1
1126 Ancylis badiana 1
1159 Holly Tortrix (Rhopobota naevana) 2
1260 Cydia splendana 2
1293 Garden Grass-veneer (Chrysoteuchia culmella) 1
1304 Agriphila straminella 7
1305 Agriphila tristella 44
1309 Agriphila geniculea 1
1338 Dipleurina lacustrata 1
1388 Udea lutealis 12
1390 Udea prunalis 8
1405 Mother of Pearl (Pleuroptya ruralis) 2
1452 Phycita roborella 1
1702 Small Fan-footed Wave (Idaea biselata) 6
1708 Single-dotted Wave (Idaea dimidiata) 1
1713 Riband Wave [non-banded form] (Idaea aversata ab. remutata) 2
1719 Oblique Carpet (Orthonama vittata) 1
1722 Flame Carpet (Xanthorhoe designata) 1
1725 Dark-barred Twin-spot Carpet (Xanthorhoe ferrugata) 4
1732 Shaded Broad-bar (Scotopteryx chenopodiata) 7
1738 Common Carpet (Epirrhoe alternata) 4
1759 Small Phoenix (Ecliptopera silaceata) 9
1766 Blue-bordered Carpet (Plemyria rubiginata) 1
1777 July Highflyer (Hydriomena furcata) 10
1883 Yellow-barred Brindle (Acasis viretata) 1
1884 Magpie Moth (Abraxas grossulariata) 3
1887 Clouded Border (Lomaspilis marginata) 4
1906 Brimstone Moth (Opisthograptis luteolata) 12
1907 Bordered Beauty (Epione repandaria) 1
1912 August Thorn (Ennomos quercinaria) 1
1917 Early Thorn (Selenia dentaria) 8
1921 Scalloped Oak (Crocallis elinguaria) 5
1922 Swallow-tailed Moth (Ourapteryx sambucaria) 1
1937 Willow Beauty (Peribatodes rhomboidaria) 1
1941 Mottled Beauty (Alcis repandata) 3
1956 Common Wave (Cabera exanthemata) 1
1961 Light Emerald (Campaea margaritata) 2
1981 Poplar Hawk-moth (Laothoe populi) 1
2000 Iron Prominent (Notodonta dromedarius) 1
2011 Pale Prominent (Pterostoma palpina) 1
2030 Yellow-tail (Euproctis similis) 2
2049 Buff Footman (Eilema depressa) 2
2050 Common Footman (Eilema lurideola) 8
2089 Heart and Dart (Agrotis exclamationis) 1
2107 Large Yellow Underwing (Noctua pronuba) 40
2109 Lesser Yellow Underwing (Noctua comes) 3
2111 Lesser Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing (Noctua janthe) 17
2126 Setaceous Hebrew Character (Xestia c-nigrum) 2
2128 Double Square-spot (Xestia triangulum) 2
2130 Dotted Clay (Xestia baja) 9
2133 Six-striped Rustic (Xestia sexstrigata) 10
2134 Square-spot Rustic (Xestia xanthographa) 1
2192 Brown-line Bright Eye (Mythimna conigera) 1
2193 Clay (Mythimna ferrago) 1
2198 Smoky Wainscot (Mythimna impura) 20
2318 Dun-bar (Cosmia trapezina) 3
2321 Dark Arches (Apamea monoglypha) 5
2342 Rosy Minor (Mesoligia literosa) 2
2343x Common Rustic agg. (Mesapamea secalis agg.) 16
2353 Flounced Rustic (Luperina testacea) 1
2361 Rosy Rustic (Hydraecia micacea) 5
2368 Crescent (Celaena leucostigma) 1
2381 Uncertain (Hoplodrina alsines) 3
2382 Rustic (Hoplodrina blanda) 1
2434 Burnished Brass (Diachrysia chrysitis) 1
2449 Dark Spectacle (Abrostola triplasia) 1

littlebug

Mothman wrote: »

.
Disappointing catch LB

I don't know if it's my trap or what
I had makeshift baffles (a la blue peter) one of which broke yesterday so that may have played a part. I may just make a blue peter type trap tonight and try to see if it makes a difference. There were loads of moths around the trap last night and looking like they were flying in.... they must have just flown out again:(

thebishop

13c and very windy with rain on and off during the night here.There was a cat sitting by the trap at 3am, dont know if he was catching moths or warming himself.Moths scarce enough;
Large Yellow Underwing x 11
Lesser Yellow Underwing x8
Least Yellow Underwing x 3
Heart and Dart x 1
Small phoenix x 1
Burnished Brass x 1
Dark Arches x 3
Herald x 1
Smoky Wainscot x 1
Iron Prominent x 1
Flame Shoulder x 1
Uncertain x 2
Common wave x 1
Spectacle x 1
Darkbarred twin spot carpet x 1

Herald.

Mothman

This fellow must be near fully grown.
85mm! Elephant Hawk-moth on a Rosebay willowherb.


3 days ago when it was only 70mm!


First seen 10 days ago when it was 60mm long

EDIT
Here's a snap just now. Moved up the plant to tackle a leaf.

Mothman

Some moths from Friday night

Lesser Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing



Magpie Moth


Yellow-tail

littlebug

GMS night again. Hopefully I'll have more success this week :rolleyes: though it's looking mighty quiet out there so far. At least the weather has eased a bit.

Mothman

Its quite mild here after some cold nights this week, and as you say, the wind has eased and its quite busy at the trap at moment.

littlebug

I think I need more trees I have a small space where I could have a hedge of sorts though nothing too tall. Any suggestions MM as to what I could plant this Autumn to make the garden more inviting next Spring? Empty gardens on 3 sides, lots of competing lights.... I'm not sure there's much more I can do at the minute.

littlebug

Slight improvement on last week.

Dark Arches x1
Lesser yellow underwing x4
Large Yellow Underwing x 2
Uncertain x1
Common Rustic x2

this one below... very small.. I thought smaller than smoky wainscot but maybe my memory of wainscot is flawed.

Mothman

Try Small Wainscot LB

My list from last night
0868 Helcystogramma rufescens 2
0873 Blastobasis adustella 10
0969 Chequered Fruit-tree Tortrix (Pandemis corylana) 1
1038x Acleris laterana/comariana 2
1076 Celypha lacunana 1
1138 Epinotia nisella 1
1159 Holly Tortrix (Rhopobota naevana) 1
1260 Cydia splendana 2
1304 Agriphila straminella 3
1305 Agriphila tristella 20
1358 Evergestis pallidata 1
1388 Udea lutealis 5
1390 Udea prunalis 1
1405 Mother of Pearl (Pleuroptya ruralis) 4
1439 Trachycera advenella 1
1702 Small Fan-footed Wave (Idaea biselata) 2
1722 Flame Carpet (Xanthorhoe designata) 2
1725 Dark-barred Twin-spot Carpet (Xanthorhoe ferrugata) 2
1732 Shaded Broad-bar (Scotopteryx chenopodiata) 17
1738 Common Carpet (Epirrhoe alternata) 3
1759 Small Phoenix (Ecliptopera silaceata) 2
1777 July Highflyer (Hydriomena furcata) 9
1883 Yellow-barred Brindle (Acasis viretata) 1
1906 Brimstone Moth (Opisthograptis luteolata) 10
1912 August Thorn (Ennomos quercinaria) 1
1917 Early Thorn (Selenia dentaria) 1
1921 Scalloped Oak (Crocallis elinguaria) 1
1937 Willow Beauty (Peribatodes rhomboidaria) 4
1941 Mottled Beauty (Alcis repandata) 1
1945 Brussels Lace (Cleorodes lichenaria) 1
1956 Common Wave (Cabera exanthemata) 2
2030 Yellow-tail (Euproctis similis) 1
2049 Buff Footman (Eilema depressa) 2
2051 Four-spotted Footman (Lithosia quadra) 1
2102 Flame Shoulder (Ochropleura plecta) 1
2107 Large Yellow Underwing (Noctua pronuba) 25
2109 Lesser Yellow Underwing (Noctua comes) 1
2111 Lesser Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing (Noctua janthe) 23
2126 Setaceous Hebrew Character (Xestia c-nigrum) 12
2130 Dotted Clay (Xestia baja) 9
2133 Six-striped Rustic (Xestia sexstrigata) 19
2134 Square-spot Rustic (Xestia xanthographa) 9
2198 Smoky Wainscot (Mythimna impura) 16
2318 Dun-bar (Cosmia trapezina) 1
2321 Dark Arches (Apamea monoglypha) 1
2336 Double Lobed (Apamea ophiogramma) 1
2341 Cloaked Minor (Mesoligia furuncula) 1
2343x Common Rustic agg. (Mesapamea secalis agg.) 9
2350 Small Wainscot (Chortodes pygmina) 2
2353 Flounced Rustic (Luperina testacea) 2
2361 Rosy Rustic (Hydraecia micacea) 7
2368 Crescent (Celaena leucostigma) 2
2474 Straw Dot (Rivula sericealis) 1

littlebug

Mothman wrote: »

Try Small Wainscot LB

I looked at that. It's much paler than the Smoky Wainscot on Ukmoths but it does say they are variable in colour so that is probably it.

Stupid question... when you say wingspan what exactly is measured....:o

Eta... great list as always MM.

littlebug

littlebug wrote: »

Stupid question... when you say wingspan what exactly is measured....:o

.

To qualify that stupid question I mean is it the length of one wing or span of both ?

Mothman

Have a look here

Wingspan is across both wings.

Some guides use forewing length which is the length of one wing, from tip of wing to thorax (body) Wingspan is twice this plus the width of thorax

And finally, I don't believe there is any such thing as stupid questions

littlebug

Mothman wrote: »

Have a look here

I'm pretty sure that's the one. Forewing length is about right. . Cheer MM.

thebishop

Not alot of moths around here on Friday night.
Large Yellow Underwing x 7
Lesser Yellow Underwing x10
Lesser Broad-bordered yellow Underwing x 13
Aughust Thorn x 1
Canary-shouldered Thorn x 1
Flame Shoulder x 7
Heart and Dart 1
Spectacle x 1
Burnished Brass x 1
Dark Arches x 1
Uncertain x 1
Small Square spot x 1
Ear Moth x 1
Agriphila Tristella x10
And this little fella for I.D please.

Mothman

thebishop wrote: »

And this little fella for I.D please.

1048 Garden Rose Tortrix Acleris variegana

littlebug

With the temperature drop and general weather deterioration I'm officially back to my early spring moth numbers. Just two moths in the trap this morning.
1x lesser BB yellow underwing
1 x bright line brown eye*

*I assumed brght line brown eye but now I'm wondering is it a bit late Maybe something else? Didn't take a pic.

thebishop

Still getting a few here despite the northerly wind.
Large Yellow underwing x 8
Least Yellow Underwing x 3
Lesser broad- bordered yellow Underwing x 16
Lesser Yellow Underwing x 3
Rosy Rustic x 3
Light Brown Apple Moth x 1
Flame Shoulder x 3
Canary-shouldered thorn x 1
Small Phoenix x 1
Popular Hawk Moth x 1
Small Square Spot x 1
Comon white Wave x 1
True Lover Knot x 1
Small Wainscot x 1
Ear Moth x 1
Agriphila Tristella x 11

Half-cocked

Got our first Copper Underwing of the year last night, despite the rain. Having serious problems with a greedy Robin grabbing moths. It comes right in while I'm sorting the catch and grabs them out of the egg trays:mad:

Mothman

Had a big catch. Very mild with min of 15C.
Highlight is a Convolvulus Hawk-moth
It's huge :eek:
I'll get photos later

I got my timing wrong with getting out to trap and robin(s) had cleaned up the sheet. I needed to be about 10 minutes earlier

0461 Ypsolopha ustella 1
0672 Parsnip Moth (Depressaria heraclei) 1
0873 Blastobasis adustella 5
1038x Acleris laterana/comariana 3
1044x Acleris ferrugana/notana 1
1076 Celypha lacunana 2
1138 Epinotia nisella 1
1309 Agriphila geniculea 2
1388 Udea lutealis 3
1395 Rusty-dot Pearl (Udea ferrugalis) 1
1405 Mother of Pearl (Pleuroptya ruralis) 1
1722 Flame Carpet (Xanthorhoe designata) 1
1738 Common Carpet (Epirrhoe alternata) 1
1762 Dark Marbled Carpet (Chloroclysta citrata) 1
1906 Brimstone Moth (Opisthograptis luteolata) 3
1972 Convolvulus Hawk-moth (Agrius convolvuli) 1
2049 Buff Footman (Eilema depressa) 2
2050 Common Footman (Eilema lurideola) 1
2089 Heart and Dart (Agrotis exclamationis) 1
2102 Flame Shoulder (Ochropleura plecta) 1
2107 Large Yellow Underwing (Noctua pronuba) 42
2109 Lesser Yellow Underwing (Noctua comes) 15
2110 Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing (Noctua fimbriata) 3
2111 Lesser Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing (Noctua janthe) 55
2121 Barred Chestnut (Diarsia dahlii) 1
2123 Small Square-spot (Diarsia rubi) 3
2126 Setaceous Hebrew Character (Xestia c-nigrum) 154
2133 Six-striped Rustic (Xestia sexstrigata) 2
2134 Square-spot Rustic (Xestia xanthographa) 73
2198 Smoky Wainscot (Mythimna impura) 4
2199 Common Wainscot (Mythimna pallens) 1
2269 Centre-barred Sallow (Atethmia centrago) 1
2274 Sallow (Xanthia icteritia) 1
2306 Angle Shades (Phlogophora meticulosa) 2
2321 Dark Arches (Apamea monoglypha) 4
2343x Common Rustic agg. (Mesapamea secalis agg.) 13
2350 Small Wainscot (Chortodes pygmina) 2
2361 Rosy Rustic (Hydraecia micacea) 24
2364 Frosted Orange (Gortyna flavago) 1
2368 Crescent (Celaena leucostigma) 1
2439 Gold Spot (Plusia festucae) 3
2484 Pinion-streaked Snout (Schrankia costaestrigalis) 1

Mothman

Some from this morning.
The tray with the Convulvulus Hawk-moth. What a surprise


Here it is with a Large Yellow Underwing for size.


In my son's hands


View of head


Frosted Orange


Gold Spot


Centre-barred Sallow

Mothman

And a couple moths from a few days back.
3 views of Canary-shouldered Thorn




Sallow

Gardener3

Wow, that is one stunning Hawk-moth!

Didn't feel too great last night so the trap is going out tonight instead though the temperature is forecast to be quite a bit cooler - might be lucky though and fingers crossed for something nice

cooley wildlife photography

stunning shots Angus

Gardener3

It felt really cold last night!
Not surprising there wasn't much flying, singles of most but 9 Pink-barred Sallows. The Engrailed was a surprise as I haven't seen one for weeks and it didn't look very worn.

Acleris laterana / comariana
Blastobasis adustella
Common Marbled Carpet
Common Rustic agg
Dark Arches
Early Thorn
Engrailed/Small Engrailed
Holly Tortrix
July Highflyer
Large Yellow Underwing
Pink-barred Sallow
Rosy Rustic
Small Square-spot
Square-spot Rustic

thebishop

I trapped last night also instead of Friday.
Brimstone x 1
Flame Shoulder x 2
Gold Spot x 1
Aughust Thorn x 1
Large Yellow Undrwing x 4
Lesser Yellow Underwing x 5
Least Yellow Underwing x 2
Treble-bar x 1
Dark Arches x 2
Setaceous Hebrew Character x 1
Uncertain x 1
Twin Spot Carpet x 1
Ear Moth x 1
Straw Dot x 1
Bryotropha domestica x 1
Agriphila Tristella x 1

Mothman

thebishop wrote: »

I trapped last night also instead of Friday.
...
Least Yellow Underwing x 2
...

Would you check that these are not Square-spot Rustic. Perhaps check hindwings.
I noticed Least Yellow Underwing on your previous list and am surprised by lack of Square-spot Rustic. It is past peak season of Least Yellow Underwing.

thebishop

Mothman wrote: »

Would you check that these are not Square-spot Rustic. Perhaps check hindwings.
I noticed Least Yellow Underwing on your previous list and am surprised by lack of Square-spot Rustic. It is past peak season of Least Yellow Underwing.

They were fairly well worn and I dont take pics of the ones I think I know so im afraid it too late to check now.

Mothman

Check them the next time you trap if you get another Least Yellow Underwing
SSR will be around for next few weeks

Gardener3

I'm about 20 miles inland from thebishop and recorded 5 Least Yellow Underwing's on Sept 1st, one of them below. Also had an Engrailed/Small Engrailed on Sept 3rd which seems to be about a fortnight later than the previous 'latest' on the MothsIreland map.

Mothman

I suspect there will be more "late" reports after the coldest summer for 25-49 years.

It certainly isn't late for Least Yellow Underwing, it was the lack of Square-spot Rustics in bishop's list that I'm curious about and was trying to find a reason.

but I'm sitting at a desk in Wicklow and the reason may be entirely a environmental one and not recorder error and I'll accept that its ridiculous to judge from where I'm sitting

littlebug

first reasonably calm night here for ages so the trap is out. If I don't get more than 2 moths I might just give up!

thebishop

littlebug wrote: »

first reasonably calm night here for ages so the trap is out. If I don't get more than 2 moths I might just give up!

Dont give up. Move to Wicklow.:D

littlebug

thebishop wrote: »

Dont give up. Move to Wicklow.:D

Not that desperate :pac:

Mothman

littlebug wrote: »

Not that desperate :pac:

Phew :pac:

paddyandy

A lovely summers day and nothing at all of insect life on stephens green. I rarely see a butterfly or bee or anything else.I remember the meadows ALIVE with insects in the 1950s.

Half-cocked

paddyandy wrote: »

A lovely summers day and nothing at all of insect life on stephens green. I rarely see a butterfly or bee or anything else.I remember the meadows ALIVE with insects in the 1950s.

My Dad did some moth trapping back in the 50's. He was shocked when he saw how low modern catches are in comparison. Insect life has been decimated by modern pesticides and habitat loss:mad:

littlebug

littlebug wrote: »

If I don't get more than 2 moths I might just give up!

3 moths, the two below and a white shouldered house moth that snuck in just to keep me in the game :pac:

First I had this down as a Least Yellow Underwing, then due to the discussion on the previous page I thought it must be Square Spot Rustic... except it had a definite yellow/ orange underwing so I'm none the wiser :pac:



I can't find my book and have been trawling through online pics for this one but can't find it

Half-cocked

I'll stick my neck out and ID the first as a lesser broad bordered yellow underwing. Don't recognize the 2nd, it looks interesting.

Gardener3

Glad the White-shouldered House-moth showed up to keep you mothing!

Half-cocked is right with his ID of Lesser Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing for the first and the second is a Rosy Rustic

littlebug

I should have known LBBYU- been looking at them for weeks I just thought that one looked different :rolleyes:

Rosy Rustic.... so it is. I'm not on the ball today at all! Now where is my book?!

Half-cocked

Gardener3 wrote: »

..... the second is a Rosy Rustic

Should have known that, I had one last month, a browner coloured one.

Mothman

I think we've just demonstrated the variability of moths, with a Rosy rustic that isn't 'rosy' and LB in your defence the LBBYU is slightly different to norm.

littlebug

i'm not trusting my own judgement at all anymore:o Id on this one?

Mothman

Lesser Yellow Underwing

Gardener3

Continuing with Rosy Rustic's how about these two from last night!



I am totally stumped with this one - if it wasn't September I'd be wondering Square Spot ......