Farming Chit Chat

AntrimGlens

every days a school day when you're farming.. We've a small herd of pedigree limmies and one of the bulls is about eight months old and looking great for sale next spring. I noticed him a day or so ago a bit slow to rise and walking a bit gingerly so ran my hands down his legs when he was feeding at the trough, felt nothing until i felt his sack and it was as hot as coals and swollen hard so called the vet. Diagnosis is Orchitis - a new one on me. Inflammation of the testes, i was asking one of the vets in work today and he says that its a blood borne infection and not that rare in bulls and rams and generally leaves the animal infertile. So i'm gonna wait for six weeks and then get a semen sample from him to get it tested and see if he's infertile and if so he's for the hook, was wondering if anyone else had come across this infection before and was the animal permanently infertile?

yellowlabrador

naughto wrote: »

This tractor was found on a cliff by the sea, buried in a hedge. It actually started and ran on the diesel and oil still in the tank after all those years. Pure tractor porn.

whelan1

AntrimGlens wrote: »

every days a school day when you're farming.. We've a small herd of pedigree limmies and one of the bulls is about eight months old and looking great for sale next spring. I noticed him a day or so ago a bit slow to rise and walking a bit gingerly so ran my hands down his legs when he was feeding at the trough, felt nothing until i felt his sack and it was as hot as coals and swollen hard so called the vet. Diagnosis is Orchitis - a new one on me. Inflammation of the testes, i was asking one of the vets in work today and he says that its a blood borne infection and not that rare in bulls and rams and generally leaves the animal infertile. So i'm gonna wait for six weeks and then get a semen sample from him to get it tested and see if he's infertile and if so he's for the hook, was wondering if anyone else had come across this infection before and was the animal permanently infertile?

what did the vet treat him with, never heard of it before

Charlie Charolais

not much chat today - are ye all gone protesting?

whelan1

Charlie Charolais wrote: »

not much chat today - are ye all gone protesting?

fantastic day here, went to mart and was spreading slurry:D

bob charles

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/farmproduce/3892378

why did he bother taking a picture of the cobs? if he just had shown the grown crop he would get plenty of callers. Someone sold the wrong seed variety me thinks.

Dont be daft

bob charles wrote: »

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/farmproduce/3892378

why did he bother taking a picture of the cobs? if he just had shown the grown crop he would get plenty of callers. Someone sold the wrong seed variety me thinks.

Lots of maize around with very poor cobs.

Why do say it was the wrong seed?

just do it

Charlie Charolais wrote: »

not much chat today - are ye all gone protesting?

Left home yesterday early and have being in various meetings since, getting home late tonight. I'd much prefer to have being farming!

Kovu

Last of our older bull calves are for off tomorrow. About a month before our heifers are ready anyway.
One blonde, one charolais, one blue, roughly same weights and ages so it will be interesting to see the differential in ppk.

reilig

Kovu Murr wrote: »

Last of our older bull calves are for off tomorrow. About a month before our heifers are ready anyway.
One blonde, one charolais, one blue, roughly same weights and ages so it will be interesting to see the differential in ppk.

Beat of luck with them. I presume its to Mohill? I think prices were fairly good there last week?

We have 12 to 15 to go this Autumn. Most are blues and they are March to May calves. Have them weined off the cows almost 2 weeks now - cows on slats and calves back out on grass where they are getting 3kg of weinling crunch each per day. Hoping to put a bit more weight on them and sell them around mid-november. Going to weigh them the week after next so I will have a good idea of DWG.

Keeping 12 smaller weinling till Monaghan Day and will feed them over the winter.

Tipp Man

reilig wrote: »

Keeping 12 smaller weinling till Monaghan Day and will feed them over the winter.

Am i being highly ignorant by asking what and when Monaghan Day is??

johnpawl

reilig wrote: »

Beat of luck with them. I presume its to Mohill? I think prices were fairly good there last week?

We have 12 to 15 to go this Autumn. Most are blues and they are March to May calves. Have them weined off the cows almost 2 weeks now - cows on slats and calves back out on grass where they are getting 3kg of weinling crunch each per day. Hoping to put a bit more weight on them and sell them around mid-november. Going to weigh them the week after next so I will have a good idea of DWG.

Keeping 12 smaller weinling till Monaghan Day and will feed them over the winter.

So do you swap them over onto beef nuts atall before selling?

wesleysniper38

Tipp Man wrote: »

Am i being highly ignorant by asking what and when Monaghan Day is??

February (as far as I know)
Its the big sales date for each type of cattle i.e. one day for heifers, bullocks and weanlings.
Why its called Monaghan day.....................I dont know

bob charles

Dont be daft wrote: »

Lots of maize around with very poor cobs.

Why do say it was the wrong seed?

because if the cobs are still white like the one in the picture they will never even come close to ripening. Maize seed is classed in how many heat units is needed for full potential of the crop. the variety show in the add was either sown way too late or else is a variety that would never reach its potential in Ireland. for instance the cobs on my maize plants are turning from yellow to golden and will be full ripe in a couple of weeks. without the cobs ripening there will be no starch in the maize and its for starch its primarily grown.

Manoffeeling

bob charles wrote: »

because if the cobs are still white like the one in the picture they will never even come close to ripening. Maize seed is classed in how many heat units is needed for full potential of the crop. the variety show in the add was either sown way too late or else is a variety that would never reach its potential in Ireland. for instance the cobs on my maize plants are turning from yellow to golden and will be full ripe in a couple of weeks. without the cobs ripening there will be no starch in the maize and its for starch its primarily grown.

It takes energy for a plant to ripen. Do you not think that it maybe water related? Did you see any fodder beet this year? Very small. Not seed related I'd say, just water issues.

freedominacup

Manoffeeling wrote: »

It takes energy for a plant to ripen. Do you not think that it maybe water related? Did you see any fodder beet this year? Very small. Not seed related I'd say, just water issues.

Yeah one of the neighbours was lamenting his crop. It looks ok from the road but v.small roots he reckons because the roots never had to grow down to look for water.

bob charles

Manoffeeling wrote: »

It takes energy for a plant to ripen. Do you not think that it maybe water related? Did you see any fodder beet this year? Very small. Not seed related I'd say, just water issues.

energy comes from light and unfortunatly we didnt get much this year. if it was a late planted crop it would have gotten less light again. I bet not knowing the sowing date that a late maturing variety was sown and it has probably only gotten say 60% (guess) of the light so far needed for the crop to mature. I will post a pic later in the day of a couple of early varieties I have that will be close to cutting in a few weeks.

Sugar beet - doesnt look bad here except for a few headlands where there must be compaction issues from last maize harvest also my best field cattle spent upwards of 3 days inside it unknown to me when I was laid up in bed, typical. Where the leaves are small there are good roots under neath and the opposite where the leaves are large. The grower that mentioned about beet not needing to go down for moisture is quite right, The warmer and drier the year the better sugar beet do.

Kovu

wesleysniper38 wrote: »

February (as far as I know)
Its the big sales date for each type of cattle i.e. one day for heifers, bullocks and weanlings.
Why its called Monaghan day.....................I dont know

Monaghan Day derives from St. Manachan, who founded a monastery in Mohill,
Co. Leitrim in 500 A.D. Hence, Feb 25th is Monaghan Day--a day for a big fair in the town and it was apparently famous for faction fights.
John McGahern talks about it in one of his novels.

reilig wrote: »

Beat of luck with them. I presume its to Mohill? I think prices were fairly good there last week?

We have 12 to 15 to go this Autumn.
Keeping 12 smaller weinling till Monaghan Day and will feed them over the winter.

I'll be looking out for them!;)

reilig

johnpawl wrote: »

So do you swap them over onto beef nuts atall before selling?

I don't know. I have them on a high protein ration at the moment. Would people recommend to put them on something with lower protein for faster weight gain?

bob charles

bob charles wrote: »

because if the cobs are still white like the one in the picture they will never even come close to ripening. Maize seed is classed in how many heat units is needed for full potential of the crop. the variety show in the add was either sown way too late or else is a variety that would never reach its potential in Ireland. for instance the cobs on my maize plants are turning from yellow to golden and will be full ripe in a couple of weeks. without the cobs ripening there will be no starch in the maize and its for starch its primarily grown.

just a follow up picture showing the above. the two cobs on the right were planted 2 weeks later and is clear from the picture maturity is still some way away. look at the colour difference between left and right the ones on the left are still filling as shown by the gaps between the grains. the rest of the early planted fields are fairly similar to the cobs on the right where as the ones on the left are probably the better cobs from the later planted stuff

overall the crop is adequate for the early grown stuff and poor to moderate for the stuff sown late around the 4th of May due to weather. estimate a dry yeild of something just over 3 ton per acre. talking to a boy that is involved in maize and he had just being back for Belgium and they were harvesting a very late maturity variety at 20t of grain per Ha, he said the cobs were nearly a foot long. not much hope for us here

saranac1

my 40 Charolais, limosuion calves were born in jan/feb/march 2012. these weanling calves are ranging from 150 kg to 210kg now @ 8/9 months old. i plan to house them only if the weather gets bad.they have been on good grass/aftergrass and high energy beef ration since may and will continue this @ 1 kg per head per day till feb 2013.dosed every 8 weeks with paramectin and im just wondering am i hitting my target weights so far????

whelan1

cutting my spring wheat and lupins and putting it in the pit now

leg wax

saranac1 wrote: »

my 40 Charolais, limosuion calves were born in jan/feb/march 2012. these weanling calves are ranging from 150 kg to 210kg now @ 8/9 months old. i plan to house them only if the weather gets bad.they have been on good grass/aftergrass and high energy beef ration since may and will continue this @ 1 kg per head per day till feb 2013.dosed every 8 weeks with paramectin and im just wondering am i hitting my target weights so far????

they sound very light for calves that have been getting a bit of meal since may,spring bb here only on meal a week bulls around 280-300kilo heifers 200-250 kg these are very light,i put it down to the bad weather since july.

reilig

leg wax wrote: »

they sound very light for calves that have been getting a bit of meal since may,spring bb here only on meal a week bulls around 280-300kilo heifers 200-250 kg these are very light,i put it down to the bad weather since july.

My april and may born BB's are weighing between 250 and 300kg. They only started on creep on July 1st. Agree that they sound light!

Richk2012

saranac1 wrote: »

my 40 Charolais, limosuion calves were born in jan/feb/march 2012. these weanling calves are ranging from 150 kg to 210kg now @ 8/9 months old. i plan to house them only if the weather gets bad.they have been on good grass/aftergrass and high energy beef ration since may and will continue this @ 1 kg per head per day till feb 2013.dosed every 8 weeks with paramectin and im just wondering am i hitting my target weights so far????

Lets say you started feeding them in the middle of May @ 1kg a day up until today you have gone through just under 6 tonne of meal .

I honestly would be scratching my head wondering why 8/9 month old calves are averaging 180kg ..

And if thats how they done with that much high energy meal , alongside goodgrass/aftergrass , aswell as milk , what way do you expect them to perform when they are in the shed weaned .

And do you think they will leave much behind them after eating the 6 tonne so far aswell as the next 4 tonne you plan to buy to get you through until Feb

bob charles

whelan1 wrote: »

cutting my spring wheat and lupins and putting it in the pit now

when did you plant it, is the spring wheat not completely over ripe and shed loads

wesleysniper38

saranac1 wrote: »

hi guys, im new to this farming thread but ive spent the last few hours reading back from january 2012 onwards and i have to say the information is brilliant. i have just 1 question, me and my father are trying to set up a suckler herd.in feb 2012 we bulled 15 heifers and so far 10 of them are in calf.with the bad weather out there we will have to house them soon, but what i need to know is what steps must i take now to have everything in place for calving in feb/march. the guy that did the scanning is great and offered to help us out if needed and im hoping to sell 300 round bales of hay in the next few weeks to make accomodation for these heifers.most of these heifers are 1 yr old Charolais and Limousin and are first time calvers with weights from 430kg to 520kg.thanks guys

Mmmm......:rolleyes:

saranac1

wesleysniper38 wrote: »

saranac1 wrote: »

hi guys, im new to this farming thread but ive spent the last few hours reading back from january 2012 onwards and i have to say the information is brilliant. i have just 1 question, me and my father are trying to set up a suckler herd.in feb 2012 we bulled 15 heifers and so far 10 of them are in calf.with the bad weather out there we will have to house them soon, but what i need to know is what steps must i take now to have everything in place for calving in feb/march. the guy that did the scanning is great and offered to help us out if needed and im hoping to sell 300 round bales of hay in the next few weeks to make accomodation for these heifers.most of these heifers are 1 yr old Charolais and Limousin and are first time calvers with weights from 430kg to 520kg.thanks guys

Mmmm......:rolleyes:

Would it be down to incorrect dosing, not all of them are 180 kg, average is about 200 kg.i don't know what else I've been doing wrong, good grassland management, none have shown signs of ill health and listening to Teagasc advisors on proper care and feeding of weanlings so if you can enlighten me to your secrets I'd be happy.

naughto

dont no if i smell a trool

whelan1

bob charles wrote: »

when did you plant it, is the spring wheat not completely over ripe and shed loads

sowed 20th may.... when i opened the ear of wheat the grain was hard, wasnt like that last week, in no way over ripe.... great pods on the lupins this year

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

bob charles wrote: »

when did you plant it, is the spring wheat not completely over ripe and shed loads

sowed 20th may.... when i opened the ear of wheat the grain was hard, wasnt like that last week, in no way over ripe.... great pods on the lupins this year

Mine was sown 10 days later and is starting to ripen but the grain is still soft, good crop of wheat and lupins here.

Muckit

Best of luck with the last of the harvest boys and girls.

I'm afraid I've sown the last of my wild oats.... heading up to aisle tomorrow


Muckit

cloverleaf

any one else need a boat to herd this morning.... absolutly soaked !!!!!!!!!!!

bob charles

Muckit wrote: »

I'm afraid I've sown the last of my wild oats....


Muckit

had you a high germination % down through the years

redzerologhlen

saranac1 wrote: »

Would it be down to incorrect dosing, not all of them are 180 kg, average is about 200 kg.i don't know what else I've been doing wrong, good grassland management, none have shown signs of ill health and listening to Teagasc advisors on proper care and feeding of weanlings so if you can enlighten me to your secrets I'd be happy.

Not being smart but are you sure they are only 200kg? I brought a few June calves to the mart tuesday and they were 220kg and they didnt come out of the golden vale either.

Box09

Muckit wrote: »

Best of luck with the last of the harvest boys and girls.

I'm afraid I've sown the last of my wild oats.... heading up to aisle tomorrow


Muckit

I hope you didn't sow any of those oats in heavy soil and that you used appropriate crop protection

Good luck tomorrow!

redzerologhlen

Muckit wrote: »

Best of luck with the last of the harvest boys and girls.

I'm afraid I've sown the last of my wild oats.... heading up to aisle tomorrow


Muckit

Best of luck Muckit

Kovu

No pics I'm afraid but I did post them as youngsters somewhere on the farming thread.
Crossmolina Euro bull (CH)- 350kg- €920
Kilmoney Bruce- (BA)- 335kg- €900
Westside Bob- (BB)- 340kg- €925

Roughly all marchish born calves.
Very happy with my first blonde too:)

reilig

Kovu Murr wrote: »

No pics I'm afraid but I did post them as youngsters somewhere on the farming thread.
Crossmolina Euro bull (CH)- 350kg- €920
Kilmoney Bruce- (BA)- 335kg- €900
Westside Bob- (BB)- 340kg- €925

Roughly all marchish born calves.
Very happy with my first blonde too:)

Good stuff. Was in there last night. Probably saw them going through. Prices were steady enough if you had good enough of quality.

saranac1

Muckit wrote: »

Best of luck with the last of the harvest boys and girls.

I'm afraid I've sown the last of my wild oats.... heading up to aisle tomorrow


Muckit

Shocking weather in the east today
Fields are like rivers

saranac1

saranac1 wrote: »

Muckit wrote: »

Best of luck with the last of the harvest boys and girls.

I'm afraid I've sown the last of my wild oats.... heading up to aisle tomorrow


Muckit

Shocking weather in the east today
Fields are like rivers

I will weight all of them again nov 1st and let you know

JohnBoy

good luck tomorrow muckit, dont worry, there's still time to run.



Unmerciful amount of rain fell last night in south tipp. There's fields behind our house that flood any time there's heavy rain when the stream overflows. In the 7 years we're living there I've never seen so much of it underwater.

kevthegaff

brutal last night in tipp, was gona bring in the cows tonight but the scrapers arent working:(, bloody rain

Kovu

Got a bookcase delivered this morning and couldn't even get out the parent's door with the rain to show the men where to put it in my house. Torrential is the only word for the rain.

pakalasa

Muckit wrote: »

..I'm afraid I've sown the last of my wild oats.... heading up to aisle tomorrow

Muckit

Best Of Luck !!

Tipp Man

Muckit wrote: »

Best of luck with the last of the harvest boys and girls.

I'm afraid I've sown the last of my wild oats.... heading up to aisle tomorrow


Muckit

Good man Muckit - very best of luck to you both

Hope the honeymoon is somewhere nice and sunny

Tipp Man

Just finished the scanning the cows

35 out of 35 heifers
93 out of 100 cows

Pretty happy with that

whelan1

kevthegaff wrote: »

brutal last night in tipp, was gona bring in the cows tonight but the scrapers arent working:(, bloody rain

did you never hear of a hand scraper jesus i wouldnt leave them out in weather like that .... surely you knew before this that they wheren't working

whelan1

Tipp Man wrote: »

Just finished the scanning the cows

35 out of 35 heifers
93 out of 100 cows

Pretty happy with that

good job

pakalasa

The Irish Salers cattle society will hold its annual Salers X Heifer Sale at Gort Mart Co. Galway. on TONIGHT 11th of October at 8pm.

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/beefcattle/3996976