Farming Chit Chat

funny man

leg wax wrote: »

very bad sale no tlt at it,i brought down 9 and got 9000 euro ,i was going to bring them home but need the space for the springers, not a happy chappy here i can tell you, out of pocket at least 2 grand.:(:(

not sure who/what tlt is but heard G(exporter) men took nothing out of carnaross last week.

caseman

leg wax wrote: »

very bad sale no tlt at it,i brought down 9 and got 9000 euro ,i was going to bring them home but need the space for the springers, not a happy chappy here i can tell you, out of pocket at least 2 grand.:(:(

Had a few in ballymote E2.66 a kg was tops back to E2.35 no big price to be had.Only averaged E985 for 6 blue bulls 10 to 11 month weanlings

stanflt

whelan1 wrote: »

what bull she out of?

had a lovely KYZ heifer last night


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blue5000

leg wax wrote: »

very bad sale no tlt at it,i brought down 9 and got 9000 euro ,i was going to bring them home but need the space for the springers, not a happy chappy here i can tell you, out of pocket at least 2 grand.:(:(

Sorry to hear that, I think it's a reflection on how scarce feed is. But sure at least you have 9k for a few bills. What are you doing with the rest of them?

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

what bull she out of?

Stock bull

whelan1

td5man wrote: »

Stock bull

whats he out of

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

whats he out of

canadian Holstein must see if i can find his cert.hes going this year as hes a problem with his hip.

stanflt

td5man wrote: »

canadian Holstein must see if i can find his cert.hes going this year as hes a problem with his hip.

you need to buy a good replacement so:D:D

td5man

stanflt wrote: »

you need to buy a good replacement so:D:D

This years bull has two legs using bqn at the moment no oman breeding in my cows.

stanflt

td5man wrote: »

This years bull has two legs using bqn at the moment no oman breeding in my cows.

why bqn- 600+ kg of milk very hard to get cows with this amount of milk in calve again regularly

whelan1

stanflt wrote: »

why bqn- 600+ kg of milk very hard to get cows with this amount of milk in calve again regularly

we where talking about thisthe other day, no one is going for the high milk bulls anymore, its all for solids and fertility, look at abo 32 kg of solids, 186 milk, even lookinh through the list on pg catalogue there are very few high milk bulls at all

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

we where talking about thisthe other day, no one is going for the high milk bulls anymore, its all for solids and fertility, look at abo 32 kg of solids, 186 milk, even lookinh through the list on pg catalogue there are very few high milk bulls at all

Thanks i know very little about breeding. using eurogene as thats who the local man works for.

bob charles

stanflt wrote: »

had a lovely KYZ heifer last night


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See Stan, even calves agree with me, going about eating your TMR before grass:D

bob charles

leg wax wrote: »

very bad sale no tlt at it,i brought down 9 and got 9000 euro ,i was going to bring them home but need the space for the springers, not a happy chappy here i can tell you, out of pocket at least 2 grand.:(:(

Things must be gone quite for the cabal in the azzurri;)

micky mouse

reilig wrote: »

Jasus,

I was in Carrigallen yesterday and I thought that prices were very good. What breeds and weights did you sell?

Any go on young quality bull weanlings under 250kg

whelan1

td5man wrote: »

Thanks i know very little about breeding. using eurogene as thats who the local man works for.

out of interest did you have a service date for the big calf you where talking about? i bet she carried a good few days with her time, alot of the high ebi bulls calve a day or 2 before their due date

micky mouse

funny man wrote: »

not sure who/what tlt is but heard G(exporter) men took nothing out of carnaross last week.

TLT are the exporters,i heard they bought a lot of the heifer weanlings in mohill on wedneday

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

out of interest did you have a service date for the big calf you where talking about? i bet she carried a good few days with her time, alot of the high ebi bulls calve a day or 2 before their due date

no

delaval

whelan1 wrote: »

we where talking about thisthe other day, no one is going for the high milk bulls anymore, its all for solids and fertility, look at abo 32 kg of solids, 186 milk, even lookinh through the list on pg catalogue there are very few high milk bulls at all

What is your calving index. I really fert needs to feature in your decisions?

freedominacup

Italy won:D:D
Cow time now, not so much:D more:(

leg wax

1chippy wrote: »

sorry to hear that, they were good stock. Was it the parts that lads didnt go for or what?
are you out 2k on what they should have made or on money spent. sorry if its a stupid q.

they should have made 2k more

reilig wrote: »

Jasus,

I was in Carrigallen yesterday and I thought that prices were very good. What breeds and weights did you sell?

7 blues 2 parts weights from 280 kgs to 420 kgs

pakalasa wrote: »

To be honest, I was expecting you'd say that. I saw them on that Donedeal video and I thought they were well back on your normal guality. What did you do different?

had the champion bull ,quality was ther but not as heavy muscled,problem was no tlt or garvalli who drive on the price.

caseman wrote: »

Had a few in ballymote E2.66 a kg was tops back to E2.35 no big price to be had.Only averaged E985 for 6 blue bulls 10 to 11 month weanlings

averaged close to 3 a kg

blue5000 wrote: »

Sorry to hear that, I think it's a reflection on how scarce feed is. But sure at least you have 9k for a few bills. What are you doing with the rest of them?

all the bulls are gone only a few heifers on the rape and they will be going to grass for 6 weeks before i sell them if i pass tb test

whelan1

delaval wrote: »

What is your calving index. I really fert needs to feature in your decisions?

is that for me or td5man?

tanko

micky mouse wrote: »

TLT are the exporters,i heard they bought a lot of the heifer weanlings in mohill on wedneday

Some well known exporters are not being given credit in some well known marts anymore. At the moment it isn't paying to carry weanlings over the winter. The lack of fodder and crap weather arent helping either.

bob charles

tanko wrote: »

Some well known exporters are not being given credit in some well known marts anymore. At the moment it isn't paying to carry weanlings over the winter. The lack of fodder and crap weather arent helping either.

about bloody time too, give the small guy who is paying there and then for his animals a chance, easy drive up the price if you aint going paying for ....... (dont insert weeks)

blue5000

bob charles wrote: »

about bloody time too, give the small guy who is paying there and then for his animals a chance, easy drive up the price if you aint going paying for ....... (dont insert weeks)

Bob it costs somewhere between 5-700 euro to keep a suckler cow for a year. If producers aren't getting this covered by the weanling price they have 2 choices. Get out or keep the weanlings to heavier weights, or perhaps take them all the way to slaughter if they can.

mf240

blue5000 wrote: »

Bob it costs somewhere between 5-700 euro to keep a suckler cow for a year. If producers aren't getting this covered by the weanling price they have 2 choices. Get out or keep the weanlings to heavier weights, or perhaps take them all the way to slaughter if they can.

If the only profit to be made is by refusing market value at weaning and taking them to slaughter then surely youd be better off keeping no cows and buying in all weanlings to finish.

moy83

blue5000 wrote: »

Bob it costs somewhere between 5-700 euro to keep a suckler cow for a year. If producers aren't getting this covered by the weanling price they have 2 choices. Get out or keep the weanlings to heavier weights, or perhaps take them all the way to slaughter if they can.

The same trouble could be had with the cost of bringing weanlings on to slaughter as the cost of keeping a cow over the year I'd say . I suppose the trick would be to try and find the cheapest cow to keep without compromising too much on the quality of the calf .

delaval

whelan1 wrote: »

is that for me or td5man?

For anybody who was talking about choosing milky bulls

whelan1

delaval wrote: »

For anybody who was talking about choosing milky bulls

mine is 405, need to work on it, i am not using milky bulls....

freedominacup

Some poor bas***d just got blown to kingdom come by sh**e on YBF. Went to clear a blockage on a vac tank forgot to turn off pto or close valve. Literally blown back down the hill. Hilarious.:D:D

hugo29

Just seen forecast, fcuk it will never get slurry out at this stage,

caseman

leg wax wrote: »

they should have made 2k more


7 blues 2 parts weights from 280 kgs to 420 kgs

had the champion bull ,quality was ther but not as heavy muscled,problem was no tlt or garvalli who drive on the price.

averaged close to 3 a kg
all the bulls are gone only a few heifers on the rape and they will be going to grass for 6 weeks before i sell them if i pass tb test

E3 to 3.20 would be tops for exporters around here.It would be show men that would drive the trade above that ,and not alot of that money around now.

Good loser

Marooned75 wrote: »

Any suggestions for fertiliser to use on ground that is been used to outwinter a few bullocks,that would bring it back to speed fairly quickly its got pasture sward and 18-6-12 over the years.

Urea will do fine 3/4 cwt per acre.

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

mine is 405, need to work on it, i am not using milky bulls....

Mine is somewhere around 340-50 using stock bull.
Autumn calvers started being served last week theyre going to be around 400.

stanflt

td5man wrote: »

Mine is somewhere around 340-50 using stock bull.
Autumn calvers started being served last week theyre going to be around 400.

600 more like it- my autumn calvers get served 42days after calving and still have a 390 whole herd calving interval-

td5man

stanflt wrote: »

600 more like it- my autumn calvers get served 42days after calving and still have a 390 whole herd calving interval-

400 assuming they hold to ai, calved early october wont be calving until november this year. very hard to detect heats here this year for some reason the cows are probably fed up with the weather too.

delaval

td5man wrote: »

Mine is somewhere around 340-50 using stock bull.
Autumn calvers started being served last week theyre going to be around 400.

Are you sure about this figure? record breaking:rolleyes:

bob charles

blue5000 wrote: »

Bob it costs somewhere between 5-700 euro to keep a suckler cow for a year. If producers aren't getting this covered by the weanling price they have 2 choices. Get out or keep the weanlings to heavier weights, or perhaps take them all the way to slaughter if they can.

Sorry I didnt mean to be having a pop off the price of the weanlings as it makes no odds to me what price they are as I dont buy any. but in general marts extending long credit to purchasers is only going to result in a serious problem if a mart goes bang and leave farmers out of pocket.

nashmach

bob charles wrote: »

Sorry I didnt mean to be having a pop off the price of the weanlings as it makes no odds to me what price they are as I dont buy any. but in general marts extending long credit to purchasers is only going to result in a serious problem if a mart goes bang and leave farmers out of pocket.

Have to agree with Bob, the pitch should be level for all.

The mart should not be used as a bank for one individual.

Also don't forget if one major purchaser went bang, it would hit farmers on the double.

No payment for stock and as many are shareholders - at the very minimum a loss of their shareholding in the mart.

funny man

In most cases i just hate the sight of twin calves, either the cow is recked or the calves are delicate but i get great satisfaction out of twin heifer calves. just in from feeding a pair of TIO heifers, born from a big 2 year old Holstein heifer proper HoJo's. don't know if anyone on here has used him but he is throwing serious strong calves.

whelan1

td5man wrote: »

Mine is somewhere around 340-50 using stock bull.
Autumn calvers started being served last week theyre going to be around 400.

think your figures are wrong there.... was looking at the first few spring calvers calving interval yesterday , a good few where between 345-360 days then you have the carry over cows that are 500:eek:

funny man

td5man wrote: »

Mine is somewhere around 340-50 using stock bull.
Autumn calvers started being served last week theyre going to be around 400.

not sure if that is possable, can you check your end of season fertility report on icbf.

pakalasa

td5man wrote: »

Mine is somewhere around 340-50 using stock bull.
Autumn calvers started being served last week theyre going to be around 400.

There was a guy in last weeks journal with Saler cows, that had a calving interval something like this. Saler cows are great to go back in calf. These figures for the Saler breed backed up by ICBF too.

pakalasa

bob charles wrote: »

.... but in general marts extending long credit to purchasers is only going to result in a serious problem if a mart goes bang and leave farmers out of pocket.

Yep, credit is a dangerous thing, and the biggest threat to marts.

whelan1

pakalasa wrote: »

Yep, credit is a dangerous thing, and the biggest threat to marts.

pay on the day, is the only way:D

whelan1

funny man wrote: »

In most cases i just hate the sight of twin calves, either the cow is recked or the calves are delicate but i get great satisfaction out of twin heifer calves. just in from feeding a pair of TIO heifers, born from a big 2 year old Holstein heifer proper HoJo's. don't know if anyone on here has used him but he is throwing serious strong calves.

had a 2yo fr heifer had a set of angus twins 2 weeks ago in the cubicle shed, nearly lost them twice, just sold them there this morning found it hard to lift them into the trailer:)

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

think your figures are wrong there.... was looking at the first few spring calvers calving interval yesterday , a good few where between 345-360 days then you have the carry over cows that are 500:eek:

Wasnt the whole herd, the ones that calved last feb/mar are calving jan/feb this year.
The ones that sept/oct aren't going to calve till nov/dec if they hold.
Then you have the carryover.

whelan1

td5man wrote: »

Wasnt the whole herd, the ones that calved last feb/mar are calving jan/feb this year.
The ones that sept/oct aren't going to calve till nov/dec if they hold.
Then you have the carryover.

if you go into icbf you will get your calving interval.... whole herd is only what we are interested in, sure i could spoof on here that the calving interval was 345 - for the first 10 cows calved.... most people work on a whole herd basis

lakill Farm

Had one of my 3 pet ewes lambed yesterday evening with 2 healthy twin ewe lambs. Fecking ewe hadnt a drop of milk. No farmer around calving and ended up gettin beastings 2 hours after they were born at 630pm . fed again at 830pm and got a shot of oxi"something" of vet to bring the milk down (she had a full elder) . at 850pm she had milk . Lucky escape.

delaval

funny man wrote: »

In most cases i just hate the sight of twin calves, either the cow is recked or the calves are delicate but i get great satisfaction out of twin heifer calves. just in from feeding a pair of TIO heifers, born from a big 2 year old Holstein heifer proper HoJo's. don't know if anyone on here has used him but he is throwing serious strong calves.

Joskin all our fr heifers in calf to him this year and last. Wait till you see them as maidens