Farming Chit Chat

whelan1

farmerjack wrote: »

+1 on the vice grips only job, clamp it on leave her for a minute and then attach the cluster, it's saving me a lot of hassle this year.

think i might try that, had a total fooker in this morning, tightened up the row, she was kicking with her two feet, no one around to hold her tail, didnt help that the cow behind her is a lunatic-very nervous- either

mf240

We had a heifer like that two years ago. She was suprisingly tasty.

mf240

Manoffeeling wrote: »

That could be you when you hit 50 and the chaps all gone, and you sick to the hole of lambing ewes with that German virus thing or maybe you bought a hard calving bull and can't face anymore, or maybe bad sowing and harvest conditions. Yeah maybe when you get enough hardship you might say to yourself, "I'll have more out of it if I lodge the maps and spend nothing".

No point in being a busy fool.

I can see your point but take any other business model, say a small hardware shop in a local town. The owner has worked hard all his life and wants to retire, now he can sell it, lease it or give it to a son or daughter.
If he was able to fill in a form that meant he could recieve an income because he worked hard 20 years ago he could just leave the shop there as a hobby and open for a couple of hours a day.
This would mean that new blood would be kept out and the shop would be unproductive(ring any bells?)

rancher

mf240 wrote: »

I can see your point but take any other business model, say a small hardware shop in a local town. The owner has worked hard all his life and wants to retire, now he can sell it, lease it or give it to a son or daughter.
If he was able to fill in a form that meant he could recieve an income because he worked hard 20 years ago he could just leave the shop there as a hobby and open for a couple of hours a day.
This would mean that new blood would be kept out and the shop would be unproductive(ring any bells?)

I don't think scrapping the SFP or leveling it is going to be the magic wand that you think its going to be, is there many farms capable of being taken over from a 55yr old by a thirty something and the owner been given €25000/yr that he needs to live and when he gets to 66, himself and the missus can get €20000/yr pension and can amuse himself on his farm without pressure.....just giving an older persons point of view

whelan1

lovely day here, hope i dont shoot myself in the foot by saying spring is here

freedominacup

mf240 wrote: »

I can see your point but take any other business model, say a small hardware shop in a local town. The owner has worked hard all his life and wants to retire, now he can sell it, lease it or give it to a son or daughter.
If he was able to fill in a form that meant he could recieve an income because he worked hard 20 years ago he could just leave the shop there as a hobby and open for a couple of hours a day.
This would mean that new blood would be kept out and the shop would be unproductive(ring any bells?)

There's a lot assumptions, presumptions and if's in that post. TBH if someone can outline a coupled payment system to me that doesn't lead to inflated land and cattle prices as guys are chasing either or both in order to meet some sort of coupled quota requirement so's that they can draw their full SFP I'd probably support it. But having been through it before where a bullocks premium status was far more important than his grading potential and where tillage guys were paying stupid money for land that wasn't good enough for set-a-side I'm in no rush back to it. The current system is a bit like democracy it's absolutely the worst possible system apart from all of the other models that were tried.

I guarantee you that within 18 months of a coupled system being introduced, certainly after the second application date for SFP has passed, guys will be still bitching about armchair farmers, the bastards, rooking active farmers with extortinate rents and they'll be after resurecting another insult, that of chequebook farmers aimed mainly at larger dairy farmers who keep insisting on pay these rates for ground for cattle because they can "afford" it due to all of the cash they are making at dairying.

BTW I understand younger guys frustration, I've been there and remember well the feeling that the whole system was stacked against me. I'm not yet forty (just) so I'm not really talking about oul gods time either. If there's going to be change it eeds to be a biy better thought out than some flat rate coupled accident looking for someplace to happen.

1chippy

whelan1 wrote: »

lovely day here, hope i dont shoot myself in the foot by saying spring is here

I said that too this morning until i had to load 12 bullocks into a trailer to put onto some fresh ground.After an hour of chasing and shouting we got them moved. Then got a bull caught in a gate and of course had the car so no tools and finally found a hacksaw to cut a bar out so just in and the better half had a good feed for me so only starting to calm down a bit.

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

lovely day here, hope i dont shoot myself in the foot by saying spring is here

No comment

whelan1

was looking at the farming weather there, its looking good:D

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

was looking at the farming weather there, its looking good:D

:rolleyes: :cool:

whitebriar

whelan1 wrote: »

was looking at the farming weather there, its looking good:D

Certainly great drying in the next 7 days with a strong very cold ese wind.
No growth though with harsh night frosts inland especially from midweek onwards and daytime temps in the East and midlands only about 5c at best by then.
Soil temps will take a severe knocking.

whelan1

whitebriar wrote: »

Certainly great drying in the next 7 days with a strong very cold ese wind.
No growth though with harsh night frosts inland especially from midweek onwards and daytime temps in the East and midlands only about 5c at best by then.
Soil temps will take a severe knocking.

badly needed here to dry out the land a bit

Manoffeeling

Great deheydrating conditions around here. It would dry the dung in a dog as a fella says.

Chiliroses

It will be great to get some dry weather for a change, this rain is tough on sheep!

bbam

Chiliroses wrote: »

It will be great to get some dry weather for a change, this rain is tough on sheep!

Feck the sheep, it's tough on me !

Richk2012

Noticed 2 cows this week back in heat after being inseminated 12 days and 8 days beforehand .

One of these has came bulling 3 times in the last month . Just back from the yard and i see her standing again .
They were proper strong standing heats each and every time.

Il contact the vet in the morning .

Any advice expierence .???? Would cysts on the ovaries cause irregular cycling?
Was thinking Receptal after i inseminate her???

Juniorhurler

Just been out on the John Deere there mowing a strong paddock. I.e. cut the lawn with the ride on. Never marked the ground.

Chiliroses

bbam wrote: »

Feck the sheep, it's tough on me !

ah but you'd feel sorry for them in their sodden woolly coats

whitebriar

whelan1 wrote: »

badly needed here to dry out the land a bit

Who are you telling!
I record rain on my part of the east coast and it's at 220.6mm since january 1 :eek: That's almost 9 inches and over a quarter of what I'd expect here in a full normal year.

delaval

At least we can stop standing the cows off. Both them and ourselves sick of it. Went to see maiden heifers today all looking well and ground surprisingly good despite all rain, was on the verge of housing them. Calving hectic at the moment so dry few days a bonus will worry about growth later

dzer2

There are lads around here will be looking for rain after 3 dry days

delaval

delaval wrote: »

Vice grip high and tight on tail if not burgers you will miss a start or another problem looking after her. The thoughts of milking her will eventually put you off milking, seriously vice grip let me know how it goes

Well Tim did it work?

moy83

A bright dry evening like this would really lift the spirits , long may it last

hoseman

Good drying wind to day,touch of march about it,left some weanlings out yesterday,they even look better to day,hope to let more out wednesday,good for two legged and four legged!!

coolshannagh28

bob charles wrote: »

As I always said I would love to see SFP gone, but my business would also be gone with it even though I dont claim SFP, beef farming would be finished over night as its such a subsidized system as it currently stands. beef would have to be near €6 to make it pay for everyone in the line

Whatever your opinion on SFP one interesting aspect is the political shenannigans. Cialios arrived last year and told anyone he met that there was going to be a flat payment system with minor adjustments ,Coveney and the IFA were straight out of the traps rubbishing this and pushing the historical model .
FF in populist mode sent O Cuiv out around the country pushing the flat rate system to much popular support landing FG in a bind, blindsided by O Cuiv.
You couldnt write it

Timmaay

delaval wrote: »

Well Tim did it work?

Like a treat :D:D! She hardly flinched this morning, I couldn't believe it, had to double check her number incase I had the wrong heifer ha! Kicked it off 2 or 3 times in the evening but nothing like last few days!

It was either the vice grips, or maybe she read td5s comment and didn't want to be tasty chops in a few months

Conmaicne Mara

coolshannagh28 wrote: »

so what do FG do but march Marian Harkin out to push the flat rate model providing Coveney with deniability .
You couldnt write it

Uhm, Marian Harkin is independent.

whelan1

Timmaay wrote: »

Like a treat :D:D! She hardly flinched this morning, I couldn't believe it, had to double check her number incase I had the wrong heifer ha! Kicked it off 2 or 3 times in the evening but nothing like last few days!

It was either the vice grips, or maybe she read td5s comment and didn't want to be tasty chops in a few months

going to try it in the morning;)

joe man utd

whelan1 wrote: »

going to try it in the morning;)
My father used to put the clamps off an old set of jumpleads on the upper part of heifers tails that were kicking.. thought he was mad but it works a treat..

joe man utd

whelan1 wrote: »

going to try it in the morning;)

My father used to put the clamps off an old set of jump-leads on the upper part of heifers tails that were kicking.. thought he was mad but it works a treat..

coolshannagh28

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Uhm, Marian Harkin is independent.

Oops ,corrected that, apologies to Marian!

hugo29

Richk2012 wrote: »

Noticed 2 cows this week back in heat after being inseminated 12 days and 8 days beforehand .

One of these has came bulling 3 times in the last month . Just back from the yard and i see her standing again .
They were proper strong standing heats each and every time.

Il contact the vet in the morning .

Any advice expierence .???? Would cysts on the ovaries cause irregular cycling?
Was thinking Receptal after i inseminate her???

I had one like that a few years ago, turned out she was in calf from first serve, showed full signs of being in heat 3 times after first serve but scanned in calf and held could get no explanation though

hugo29

whelan1 wrote: »

was looking at the farming weather there, its looking good:D

Oh don't tempt fate, please, actually brought kids to beach today for a walk, it amazing how much better one feels in nice weather

delaval

Timmaay wrote: »

Like a treat :D:D! She hardly flinched this morning, I couldn't believe it, had to double check her number incase I had the wrong heifer ha! Kicked it off 2 or 3 times in the evening but nothing like last few days!

It was either the vice grips, or maybe she read td5s comment and didn't want to be tasty chops in a few months

Delighted to hear it worked we use d for years:D

Askim

Reilig

You asked about a poly tunnel, I have a 4m x 6m, I find it a bit small, use it mainly for early carrots, lettuce, etc then cucumber & tomatoes, sowed spare cabbage & rocket in it in september, let turkeys & chickens in for the winter, they really clean out all the weeds, with an automatic watering, its really easy to look after, but it will go from tidy to over grown in a week or so, if ye grow out side it is an extension of this.

just put on a new plastic at the weekend, old one wasn't tight enough, tighened the feck out of it this time. I got my plastic form this crowd
http://www.dplant.ie/
just looked up a few online & rang, Brendan was the best priced & very helpful with all my questions about putting on the plastic
The plastic was a little less in the UK, but if anything went wrong a fairly local could call in passing some day.
Just my view


Rgds
A

reilig

Askim wrote: »

Reilig

You asked about a poly tunnel, I have a 4m x 6m, I find it a bit small, use it mainly for early carrots, lettuce, etc then cucumber & tomatoes, sowed spare cabbage & rocket in it in september, let turkeys & chickens in for the winter, they really clean out all the weeds, with an automatic watering, its really easy to look after, but it will go from tidy to over grown in a week or so, if ye grow out side it is an extension of this.

just put on a new plastic at the weekend, old one wasn't tight enough, tighened the feck out of it this time. I got my plastic form this crowd
http://www.dplant.ie/
just looked up a few online & rang, Brendan was the best priced & very helpful with all my questions about putting on the plastic
The plastic was a little less in the UK, but if anything went wrong a fairly local could call in passing some day.
Just my view


Rgds
A

Thanks for that. I ordered a 6 x 4 over the weekend. I'll put it up over the next few weeks, but it'll be up to her indoors to get out and make it work.

td5man

Quiet in here today.

bbam

td5man wrote: »

Quiet in here today.

Nice bright weather.. perfect to get out and do ANYTHING outside for a change!!

whelan1

td5man wrote: »

Quiet in here today.

its ok i'm back now:D

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

its ok i'm back now:D

We really missed you.

blue5000

td5man wrote: »

Quiet in here today.

I think the slurry blitz may have started:D

dzer2

blue5000 wrote: »

I think the slurry blitz may have started:D

Correct, cant beat a bit of dry weather brings a small bit of ease to the situation. Leaped out of bed the last 2 mornings, also bright until 6.30 is a help.

1chippy

umbilical coming tomorrow and just topped the last of the tanks up with pig slurry. brilliant drying round here the last few days, hopefully it will last.

reilig

1chippy wrote: »

brilliant drying round here the last few days, hopefully it will last.

3 more weeks of drying like that and we'll get to put out a bit of slurry here

naughto

watched king corn last night

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1112115/

food inc is also very good


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1286537/?ref_=tt_rec_tt

and
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0765849/?ref_=sr_1
if any one wants them i can point them in the right direction

bogman_bass

came home from work to find a whitehead cow had had a cracker of a parthenaise bull calf by IRX. Add the sunshine to the mix and I'm in great form!:D

f140

just in from agititating the tank and put the slurry tank on the other tractor. will be up at 6 tomorrow hitting it hard and im going to try to take 1/3 to half out so i dont have to be worrying about that problem for another bit.

darragh_haven

Every tanker in the country must be spreading ****e. and everyone else is probably feeding calves. Busy on the farm #No activity here at all.

bbam

Anyone see the portable milking machines on DD? €1400 seems very expensive. We had one in the 60's when we farmed first. (of course I don't remember it).
He's selling it as an end to expensive milk replacer. He's obviously never milked with one and carried a bucket of milk from a cow. Mixing milk replacer is a doddle in comparison.

bbam

Anyone see the portable milking machines on DD? €1400 seems very expensive. We had one in the 60's when we farmed first. (of course I don't remember it).
He's selling it as an end to expensive milk replacer. He's obviously never milked with one and carried a bucket of milk from a cow. Mixing milk replacer is a doddle in comparison.
Buy a cow, keep her for the year, buy the machine, milk the feckin cow twice a day. I can mix stuff for 16 calves in less than five minutes for a fraction of the cost and no hassle.