Farming Chit Chat

whelan1

td5man wrote: »

Its people like you that give farming a bad name, protesting about milk prices last week and off on winter holidays this week :-)

did you protest about milk price ? Annual holiday here. think i work hard enough during the year to justify 4 days away

simx

calf this morning,heifer out of very milky cow lambing off to a start with twin lambs this evening, going to chance letting out weanlings tomorrow happy days

just do it

bogman_bass wrote: »

we have plenty of bbx cows. HCA or ahz. wouldnt use OZS. angus could be a good option too. maybe GJB

Went with HCA. And would you believe her compatriot is for AI in the morning as well. Will go with HCA again.

The AI man said this morning's one had a dirty discharge. Don't really know how she came to have it. Lets see what 21 days brings...

just do it

whelan1 wrote: »

greetings from spain:D enjoying happy hour cheers

Have a good one Whelan1. But you do realise your missing the best week of weather in about 9 months!!!

DMAXMAN

pakalasa wrote: »

Fair play for a bit of initiative;
http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/beefcattle/4043920

know that chap,only a young lad but mad keen about stock. parents
breed brilliant stock too. chap is keen , has posters everywhere in marts and merchants trying to drum up business.see he renewed his ad on donedeal before 7 this morning

hugo29

whelan1 wrote: »

greetings from spain:D enjoying happy hour cheers

See if they have any good bodywarmers:D

Mac Taylor

Does anyone know if the bull sales in Carrick are haltered or unhaltered. I have a few ped bulls for sale but just did'nt have the time to train them.

Bodacious

bogman_bass wrote: »

we have plenty of bbx cows. HCA or ahz. wouldnt use OZS. angus could be a good option too. maybe GJB

hi Bogman

would you be afraid of him calving when crossed with the blue? his calves are quality though, ive seen a couple of good HCA calves too though but will be smaller musclier type

limo_100

Bodacious wrote: »

hi Bogman

would you be afraid of him calving when crossed with the blue? his calves are quality though, ive seen a couple of good HCA calves too though but will be smaller musclier type

which bull r you on about bod that ud b afraid of??? whats that calf by good end on him

Bodacious

limo_100 wrote: »

which bull r you on about bod that ud b afraid of??? whats that calf by good end on him

OZS calving figures went up from what originally anticipated but only IMO no big muscley calves born that I saw anyway normal lim size calf but develop well after.

A friend of mine was worried alright as he gave him to an E grade show heifer but she calved him no bother either but Bogman would have much more info on him I'm only basing my opinion on 6 calves! Good 2 year old heifer be sound for him but safer if extreme muscle in her pedigree to try an easier calving lad

reilig

Mac Taylor wrote: »

Does anyone know if the bull sales in Carrick are haltered or unhaltered. I have a few ped bulls for sale but just did'nt have the time to train them.

Its all haltered. In reality, you would need to have a bit of work done with the bull on the rope as he has to be tied in one of the open stalls for viewing and then lead to the top of the sales yard and lead around the ring. Have seen many's a bull flip as he was going into the ring and it has a detremental affect on price.

Some of the local marts have had unhaltered sales in the past - Dowra and Elphin being 2, but I don't knwo if they will have any this year. To be honest, the quality at the unhaltered sales doesn't be the best.

Would you not try and sell them on Donedeal. I'm not long in pedigrees, but have sold 2 bulls on it with ease!

bbam

td5man wrote: »

Its people like you that give farming a bad name, protesting about milk prices last week and off on winter holidays this week :-)

Indeed. If we were to listen to the general public we wouldn't ever;
Have a holiday.
Have a new car
Send kids to college
Marry someone with a job, particularly not a nurse or teacher.
Buy more land
Put up sheds
Spread slurry
Bring a tractor on the road
Have an animal bawl, ever
Use chemicals
Have an accountant to reduce tax liability

Jebus, it would be hard to get much done and a dull life.

freedominacup

just do it wrote: »

Have a good one Whelan1. But you do realise your missing the best week of weather in about 9 months!!!

I think we should organise a whip around and try to get the funds together to keep her out there for another few weeks. As soon as she left the weather improved it's probably gonna start p**sing down as soon as she come home:D

bogman_bass

Bodacious wrote: »

OZS calving figures went up from what originally anticipated but only IMO no big muscley calves born that I saw anyway normal lim size calf but develop well after.

A friend of mine was worried alright as he gave him to an E grade show heifer but she calved him no bother either but Bogman would have much more info on him I'm only basing my opinion on 6 calves! Good 2 year old heifer be sound for him but safer if extreme muscle in her pedigree to try an easier calving lad

its not that he is hard calved but he isnt out and out easy either and I would always err of the side of caution with heifers, especially when there is blue in them. Maybe thats just me.
I think OZS would be a fantastic bull for second calvers or if you had a big roomy heifer.

Maybe I'm overly cautious. what do people think?

kevthegaff

jes got stuck in a field there, just got the neighbour to pull me out. havin a nice bowl of microwaved chicken soup:)

GoodMan55985

bogman_bass wrote: »

its not that he is hard calved but he isnt out and out easy either and I would always err of the side of caution with heifers, especially when there is blue in them. Maybe thats just me.
I think OZS would be a fantastic bull for second calvers or if you had a big roomy heifer.

Maybe I'm overly cautious. what do people think?

I'd agree with you bogman. I wouldn't give the heifer OZS. I bulled a few Charolais Heifers at Christmas to Achile (AHZ). He is easy calving. With any heifer try to go as easy calving as possible and sure as you say when you see what they like at calving you can adjust for future years.

whelan1

freedominacup wrote: »

I think we should organise a whip around and try to get the funds together to keep her out there for another few weeks. As soon as she left the weather improved it's probably gonna start p**sing down as soon as she come home:D

all donations gratefully accepted, around 15-17 degrees here, whats it like at home? getting rid of the cracks on my hands while i am here

dzer2

Lads anyone sell cull cows lately have a lad coming to look at 2 tomorrow just wondering what price per kilo they are making as I can weigh these in the morning.

Manoffeeling

whelan1 wrote: »

all donations gratefully accepted, around 15-17 degrees here, whats it like at home? getting rid of the cracks on my hands while i am here

http://www.magicmum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=813932

1chippy

bogman_bass wrote: »

its not that he is hard calved but he isnt out and out easy either and I would always err of the side of caution with heifers, especially when there is blue in them. Maybe thats just me.
I think OZS would be a fantastic bull for second calvers or if you had a big roomy heifer.

Maybe I'm overly cautious. what do people think?

Calved him out of an average heifer this year. cracking calf easily calved.

limo_100

heres a interesting ad on fb anyone buy of these they have some nice stock

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/beefcattle/4415177

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/beefcattle/4443759#

hugo29

Any one ever have a hoarse cow, she trying to call calf and all that coming out is a whimper

pakalasa

Anyone ever have this problem - I have sucklers calving now. I seperate them to calve but let the cow back with the rest of the cows for a few hours a day, to eat silage stretch the legs etc. Well all hell breaks out when I do it. There's only a gate seperating them when calving, so it's not like they are being re-introduced. What you reckon, jealousy ?? Seriously, I nearly got injured trying to seperate them this evening. They had a cow that calved yesterday pinned down to the ground this evening.

GERMAN ROCKS

kevthegaff wrote: »

jes got stuck in a field there, just got the neighbour to pull me out. havin a nice bowl of microwaved chicken soup:)

what happened you?

Bizzum

pakalasa wrote: »

Anyone ever have this problem - I have sucklers calving now. I seperate them to calve but let the cow back with the rest of the cows for a few hours a day, to eat silage stretch the legs etc. Well all hell breaks out when I do it. There's only a gate seperating them when calving, so it's not like they are being re-introduced. What you reckon, jealousy ?? Seriously, I nearly got injured trying to seperate them this evening. They had a cow that calved yesterday pinned down to the ground this evening.

We have one or two cows who never miss an opportunity to assert themselves. They seem to spend most of their time warmongering.
Is it always the same cow/s that cause the trouble?

just do it

Pak

It's not just calved cows. It seems the hierarchy is reasserted even after the shortest period of time.

1chippy

just do it wrote: »

Pak

It's not just calved cows. It seems the hierarchy is reasserted even after the shortest period of time.

We keep a pen of what you can only call tramps togethter. They all seem to be the older cows which have a tendancy to bully any younger ones. you will find there is always one thats worse than the rest.
People will probably say by putting them together i am just looking for punishment but they settle very quick and learn their places.

freedominacup

whelan1 wrote: »

all donations gratefully accepted, around 15-17 degrees here, whats it like at home? getting rid of the cracks on my hands while i am here

Atrixo regenerating cream serious jungle juice. But chanelle udder cream sorts the wheat from the chaff.

hoseman

:)the pleasure of farming in this weather,no wet coats and NO F>CKING WELLINGTONS yipee,boots overalls and a good old wooly hat!

pakalasa

Bizzum wrote: »

..Is it always the same cow/s that cause the trouble?

The gang is led by a young cow that lost her calf early in the year. She wouln't be the matriarch or anything. I reckon it's pure jealosy. Christ it got savage yesterday. I'd say they would have killed her if I didn't seperate them again. Might be a problem yet as more cows calve and I run out of shed space.

mf240

pakalasa wrote: »

The gang is led by a young cow that lost her calf early in the year. She wouln't be the matriarch or anything. I reckon it's pure jealosy. Christ it got savage yesterday. I'd say they would have killed her if I didn't seperate them again. Might be a problem yet as more cows calve and I run out of shed space.

leave them without silage and give it to them when your about to let in a new cow.

You could get flattened yourself with them at times.

bogman_bass

pakalasa wrote: »

The gang is led by a young cow that lost her calf early in the year. She wouln't be the matriarch or anything. I reckon it's pure jealosy. Christ it got savage yesterday. I'd say they would have killed her if I didn't seperate them again. Might be a problem yet as more cows calve and I run out of shed space.

is she a cow that got bullied a lot herself? Like kids, those that get bullied are more likely to do the bullying later on

simx

dzer2 wrote: »

Lads anyone sell cull cows lately have a lad coming to look at 2 tomorrow just wondering what price per kilo they are making as I can weigh these in the morning.

Are they fr? Fleshy? €1.35/40 a kg if fairly fleshy,€1.10/15 if average enough

dzer2

simx wrote: »

Are they fr? Fleshy? €1.35/40 a kg if fairly fleshy,€1.10/15 if average enough

Thats great offered me €1.10 so I will take that.

bob charles

dzer2 wrote: »

Thats great offered me €1.10 so I will take that.

It would be impossible buy cows by the kilo, or even give a estimate on price as there are so many variables. Once your happy with the price and the guys is sound thats all that matters

Bizzum

bogman_bass wrote: »

is she a cow that got bullied a lot herself? Like kids, those that get bullied are more likely to do the bullying later on

Did she come from a broken home? was she abused? has she issues with substance abuse........? It's societies fault ya know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

Bizzum

mf240 wrote: »

leave them without silage and give it to them when your about to let in a new cow.

This is what we usually do if we can. Sometimes it distracts them long enough for them not to notice the newcomer. Other times they go at the silage and hold their grudge till later on!

bogman_bass

Bizzum wrote: »

Did she come from a broken home? was she abused? has she issues with substance abuse........? It's societies fault ya know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

did you try hugging her and telling her its alright?

Richk2012

1chippy wrote: »

We keep a pen of what you can only call tramps togethter. They all seem to be the older cows which have a tendancy to bully any younger ones. you will find there is always one thats worse than the rest.
People will probably say by putting them together i am just looking for punishment but they settle very quick and learn their places.

A pen of tramps ........ Every farm should have one !!!
Ah i know what you mean. Have a few of them meself.
Two older cows inparticular , will almost patrol the silage barrier at times to stop the younger cows getting a look in , even though they themselves are full .

hoseman

printed off herd profile,went out to cattle to check off missing tags,came in with form with tags ticked,now I cannot find the form going to have to re do all again.:(:(

dzer2

Richk2012 wrote: »

A pen of tramps ........ Every farm should have one !!!
Ah i know what you mean. Have a few of them meself.
Two older cows inparticular , will almost patrol the silage barrier at times to stop the younger cows getting a look in , even though they themselves are full .

Electric prod through the barrier

blue5000

Richk2012 wrote: »

A pen of tramps ........ Every farm should have one !!!
Ah i know what you mean. Have a few of them meself.
Two older cows inparticular , will almost patrol the silage barrier at times to stop the younger cows getting a look in , even though they themselves are full .

Had that organised until last night, all the big old bitches with horns were together. A fooking slat broke in the pen so now all the dry cows are together. Will have to get the measuring tape, a railway sleeper and chainsaw out now.

just do it

I separated the cows and calves overnight last night. Let them back in at 6am. I could hear them 600m away. Bloody glad no one lives any closer to the shed than that!

whelan1

just read in the irish indo that there was a protest about liquid milk price in dublin yesterday, was anyone at it or did any one know about it?

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

just read in the irish indo that there was a protest about liquid milk price in dublin yesterday, was anyone at it or did any one know about it?

No and no.

Muckit

slurry going out today on the driest of the silage ground. Hopefully have grass to let a few weanlings out after paddy's wkend.

A lot of the rest of the farm you wouldn't travel with a boat! I must post pics again soon...

reilig

Muckit wrote: »

slurry going out today on the driest of the silage ground. Hopefully have grass to let a few weanlings out after paddy's wkend.

A lot of the rest of the farm you wouldn't travel with a boat! I must post pics again soon...

Same as that. Agitated 2 tanks last night and have a young lad putting it out for me today. Hope to get about 50k gallons out between now and monday to be able to take in about 20k gallons of pig slurry and have enough storage space to do for March and April. Some cows with calves will hit grass around mid march. After that cows and calves will get out as the calves are born - just drop them out in the field with the quad and trailer as they calve if weather allows it.

We have seen serious drying in the last week. Another week and we could cover all the meadows - but it might still be abit early for that. That was the first dry week around here since the beginning of october 2012. Plenty of grass at the moment, but ground just not dry enough to carry them!

GoodMan55985

just do it wrote: »

I separated the cows and calves overnight last night. Let them back in at 6am. I could hear them 600m away. Bloody glad no one lives any closer to the shed than that!

Are you doing this to get cows bulling quicker? Are you allowing the calves to suck twice a day? I haven't done this before but thinking of doing it this year. Any advice like do the cows get used to this setup and settle down

pakalasa

Jeez, the weather is amazing isn't it? Putting cows out as they calve. Have them in our driest field and they're as happy as Larry. It was minus 2 the other morning, and I was greeted by day old calves standing and stretching. Not a bother on them.

redzerologhlen

pakalasa wrote: »

Jeez, the weather is amazing isn't it? Putting cows out as they calve. Have them in our driest field and they're as happy as Larry. It was minus 2 the other morning, and I was greeted by day old calves standing and stretching. Not a bother on them.

Frosty weather never harmed a calf, Getting soaked to their skin is a different story though. I hate to be the one to say it but we need a day or 2 of rain around here because our water supply in the winterage is a non runner at the moment. Going to have to start walking the cows a mile to the nearest river daily until it starts raining again