Farming Chit Chat

whelan1

did anyone hear anything of when the dairy discussion group payment is coming, last year we got it on 29th february? the beef guys got theres ages ago

Kovu

just do it wrote: »

?? Sorry K, you've lost me with this post!

Lol, she has taken to the wee heifer of the twins and doesnt like the bull at all. Ideally I'd bottle feed the heifer (i.e. replacement)

whelan1

Kovu Murr wrote: »

Lol, she has taken to the wee heifer of the twins and doesnt like the bull at all. Ideally I'd bottle feed the heifer (i.e. replacement)

but if they are male and female twins its very rare that the female will breed

Kovu

whelan1 wrote: »

but if they are male and female twins its very rare that the female will breed

Two sacs so non identical. I assumed that these would be breedable

freedominacup

Kovu Murr wrote: »

Two sacs so non identical. I assumed that these would be breedable

I've never had a heifer out of mixed twins who did:(

Kovu

freedominacup wrote: »

I've never had a heifer out of mixed twins who did:(

I had one who did a few years ago. 10% chance isnt it? Maybe im being a bit optimistic :pac:

moy83

Kovu Murr wrote: »

I had one who did a few years ago. 10% chance isnt it? Maybe im being a bit optimistic :pac:

Is the thing that if they have seperate sacs they can breed just an old wives tale or is there any science to it ?

freedominacup

moy83 wrote: »

Is the thing that if they have seperate sacs they can breed just an old wives tale or is there any science to it ?

It's the testosterone secreted by the bull calf which interferes with the development of the females reproductive organs during the pregnancy AFAIK.

Kovu

moy83 wrote: »

Is the thing that if they have seperate sacs they can breed just an old wives tale or is there any science to it ?

Thinking in a husbandry way- it shouldnt. Separate sacs means separate development.

Kovu

freedominacup wrote: »

It's the testosterone secreted by the bull calf which interferes with the development of the females reproductive organs during the pregnancy AFAIK.

I stand corrected:pac: I can inform ye in a year or so lol.

mf240

moy83 wrote: »

Is the thing that if they have seperate sacs they can breed just an old wives tale or is there any science to it ?

Yes if they have two cleanings the heifer will breed.

The female sex organs fail to develop in mixed twins due to testosterone from the bull calf being transferred via the placenta which doesn't happen if there are two cleanings (placenta).

moy83

freedominacup wrote: »

It's the testosterone secreted by the bull calf which interferes with the development of the females reproductive organs during the pregnancy AFAIK.

Can the testosterone travel through the sacs ?

pakalasa

mf240 wrote: »

Yes if they have two cleanings the heifer will breed..

Ya learn something new everyday. I didn't know that.

lakill Farm

How would you know a tanker is going to improde? i have a tank and a inward crease mark approx 1/3 / 1/2 of the tank (front part at about 7 pm on the tank) Defo didnt hit it. Its only a 1300 tank.:rolleyes: Ya pay for what ye get i know but i only put out a few loads a year. Any ideas

whelan1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlVCIptQj2k

1chippy

About half the animals out today. great to see the weanlings with the tails up going cracked. Dehorned and vaccinated the last of the calves and cleaned out the calving pens. i think its time to get washed and go get hammered.

Richk2012

1chippy wrote: »

About half the animals out today. great to see the weanlings with the tails up going cracked. Dehorned and vaccinated the last of the calves and cleaned out the calving pens. i think its time to get washed and go get hammered.

Have one for me . Said id give lent a go this year .
See how long i can stretch the will power

bob charles

1chippy wrote: »

i think its time to get washed and go get hammered.

snap, I have put up enough milage this week to justify a hard session

Timmaay

Possible upshot from the whole horsemeat scandal, consumers are being more cautious about cheap food http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056892070

kevthegaff

just registered 20 calves there in about 15 mins, online registering is the job!
now im off for a couple of pints

munkus

1chippy wrote: »

About half the animals out today. great to see the weanlings with the tails up going cracked. Dehorned and vaccinated the last of the calves and cleaned out the calving pens. i think its time to get washed and go get hammered.

What did the vaccinate the calves with Chip?

hugo29

bob charles wrote: »

snap, I have put up enough milage this week to justify a hard session

Lucky b@stards I wish I was going too, forgot about lent

Bizzum

The Cavan lads on here will surely head for a pint or two after their performance tonight against the aul enemy Meath. Interesting times!

jomoloney

1chippy wrote: »

About half the animals out today. great to see the weanlings with the tails up going cracked. Dehorned and vaccinated the last of the calves and cleaned out the calving pens. i think its time to get washed and go get hammered.

bob charles wrote: »

snap, I have put up enough milage this week to justify a hard session

kevthegaff wrote: »

just registered 20 calves there in about 15 mins, online registering is the job!
now im off for a couple of pints

Am I the only eejit watching Brendan O connor ??:(

crystal swing just came on, time for a double brandy :eek::eek:

hugo29

jomoloney wrote: »

Am I the only eejit watching Brendan O connor ??:(

crystal swing just came on, time for a double brandy :eek::eek:

No another eejit here,

jomoloney

Richard Corrigan on now, ....interesting

hugo29

jomoloney wrote: »

Richard Corrigan on now, ....interesting

Still on Catherine lynch here, was paused for a while, thanks for the warning on crystal swing

1chippy

munkus wrote: »

What did the vaccinate the calves with Chip?

Rispoval intranasal for pneumonia and the ibr injection one.

bob charles

Suffering Chippy? I'm just in the gap and straight into the leaba again, was out in rebel city last night. fair poor selection of wans down those parts and everywhere closed at 2am :mad:, might aswell stayed at home

freedominacup

bob charles wrote: »

Suffering Chippy? I'm just in the gap and straight into the leaba again, was out in rebel city last night. fair poor selection of wans down those parts and everywhere closed at 2am :mad:, might aswell stayed at home

Either the word went out you were on the way and they decided discretion was the better part of valour and stayed at home or the word didn't get out in time and they all missed a golden oppurtunity, I wonder which it was

bob charles

freedominacup wrote: »

Either the word went out you were on the way and they decided discretion was the better part of valour and stayed at home or the word didn't get out in time and they all missed a golden oppurtunity, I wonder which it was

definitely the former!

reilig

lakill Farm wrote: »

How would you know a tanker is going to improde? i have a tank and a inward crease mark approx 1/3 / 1/2 of the tank (front part at about 7 pm on the tank) Defo didnt hit it. Its only a 1300 tank.:rolleyes: Ya pay for what ye get i know but i only put out a few loads a year. Any ideas

If it got a whack, then it could be ok. It it sucked in, then you could be in trouble in the future. Are there reinforcing rings inside it? It may have just moved until it met the ring.

bogman_bass

Bizzum wrote: »

The Cavan lads on here will surely head for a pint or two after their performance tonight against the aul enemy Meath. Interesting times!

shhh! Let us never speak of this again!

Dupont

I have chance of renting 10 acres this year. No sheds on it. Was thinking of buying 10 frssian bull calves for it. Make hay if grass to spare later on and sell at end of year. Was wondering would I break even? And what age calves can be put out to grass and crunch

1chippy

bob charles wrote: »

Suffering Chippy? I'm just in the gap and straight into the leaba again, was out in rebel city last night. fair poor selection of wans down those parts and everywhere closed at 2am :mad:, might aswell stayed at home

Feeling a it sorry for myself alright. went for a walk out through the cattle and decided i might pull out the roller this week, although i mightnt be sober yet so i'll decide tomorrow. good crowd out around here last night. stay the f*k outta bed.. you will regret it when your watchin the ceiling at 3 tomorrow morning.

td5man

Dupont wrote: »

I have chance of renting 10 acres this year. No sheds on it. Was thinking of buying 10 frssian bull calves for it. Make hay if grass to spare later on and sell at end of year. Was wondering would I break even? And what age calves can be put out to grass and crunch

Ive 10 nice calves id let you have @ €200 a piece .

Dupont

td5man wrote: »

Ive 10 nice calves id let you have @ €200 a piece .

What age. Have a couple farmers I work for said will sell to me.

1chippy

Dupont wrote: »

What age. Have a couple farmers I work for said will sell to me.

IF you want to put them out to grass they would want to be at least 10-12 weeks old. doubt you will have any bother finding lads to sell to you this year.

whelan1

td5man wrote: »

Ive 10 nice calves id let you have @ €200 a piece .

only 200, i'd say you could get more with the year thats in it;)

kevthegaff

jes was stomach tubing a calf earlier and the blasted thing broke, had to get my fingers in his throat to get it out. thank god i could reach it. Never heard of that happening before

whelan1

12 cows calved while i was away last week, all where written in the book in the dairy, i assumed it was right and regisitered calves on line on friday night, when i looked yesterday , i registered a blue bull as a friesian , what do i do to correct this?

dzer2

whelan1 wrote: »

12 cows calved while i was away last week, all where written in the book in the dairy, i assumed it was right and regisitered calves on line on friday night, when i looked yesterday , i registered a blue bull as a friesian , what do i do to correct this?

There is an amendment form somewhere on the dept website but you need the card back to send it off with the form.

bob charles

whelan1 wrote: »

12 cows calved while i was away last week, all where written in the book in the dairy, i assumed it was right and regisitered calves on line on friday night, when i looked yesterday , i registered a blue bull as a friesian , what do i do to correct this?

what difference does it make if his end destination is only the hook? often buy cattle where the carpet doesnt match the curtain

Muckit

freedominacup wrote: »

It's the testosterone secreted by the bull calf which interferes with the development of the females reproductive organs during the pregnancy AFAIK.

Adam's father is as much saying the same thing on Countryfile ... it's on at the mo;)

dzer2

Muckit wrote: »

Adam's father is as much saying the same thing on Countryfile ... it's on at the mo;)

You can blood test to see if the heifer is fine,

Timmaay

dzer2 wrote: »

There is an amendment form somewhere on the dept website but you need the card back to send it off with the form.

Whelan, Its a 94B form, can't be got online for some reason (or wasn't the time I needed one), the local dvo office said they would post me out one, I got them to email it to me instead, as I needed it in a hurry. PM me on your email and I can forward it on to ya!

Timmaay

bob charles wrote: »

what difference does it make if his end destination is only the hook? often buy cattle where the carpet doesnt match the curtain

I've a fr cow registered as a Charolais some how, similarly we haven't seen the need to change it yet! Only annoying thing is her EBI shows up as zero, I don't know what bull she is off, but she should be over the 100 anyways.

hugo29

whelan1 wrote: »

12 cows calved while i was away last week, all where written in the book in the dairy, i assumed it was right and regisitered calves on line on friday night, when i looked yesterday , i registered a blue bull as a friesian , what do i do to correct this?

I just send them a letter with card explaining mistake, usually works

hugo29

Still waiting on contractor o put out slurry, gettin itchy feet, rain comin in Wednesday

whelan1

hugo29 wrote: »

I just send them a letter with card explaining mistake, usually works

then i have the calf registered as a bb that is a fr... will wait til i get the cards and the bvd results and will send a note then, do you send the letter to the dvo