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somebody keeps on takeing my hammer and vice grip and sprong when i need them but always leave them back when i dont need them:o, i saw it somewhere
Found 3 vice grips on the road past our house this summer. Obviously farmers had them clamped on their tractors to hold something in place and hitting the potholes knocked them off. Will never have to buy a vice grips again!
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You do know now you have said it, you are about to lose the 3 you found and another for good measure;)Found 3 vice grips on the road past our house this summer. Obviously farmers had them clamped on their tractors to hold something in place and hitting the potholes knocked them off. Will never have to buy a vice grips again!0 -
no pics of cattle out on kale but new crop on pic thread.
Hi Legwax
I think you explained before, but can you give a brief run through of how you go about sowing it? ie what date did you set it? How did you set it? How much does it work out an acre? When do you start feeding it? How many cows/acre? etc. A lot of questions - sorry!
Did you see this weeks IFJ ? There's a pic of a lad picking his up with a forage wagon. He's going mixing it with wholecrop barley (i think) and making a pit of it. I didn't think you could do that, you learn something new everyday! It does make it a dearer feed though and you've the whole slurry issue then when feeding in a shed.
Also on the issue of out wintering. I know some of our neighbours across the pond in England build up grass covers in late summer/autumn to feed cattle on over the winter. Is this allowed in Ireland? Is grass any good like this?? like kale, could be supplemented. I know they'd plough up, but you could level and shake grass seed the following spring. Madness??0 -
Found 3 vice grips on the road past our house this summer. Obviously farmers had them clamped on their tractors to hold something in place and hitting the potholes knocked them off. Will never have to buy a vice grips again!
God bless your eye sight Outside on the mudguard is a great 'tool rest'! 0 -
Found 3 vice grips on the road past our house this summer. Obviously farmers had them clamped on their tractors to hold something in place and hitting the potholes knocked them off. Will never have to buy a vice grips again!
Relig that's one of the very few advantages of living in Leitrim, have you anymore?
On the subject of visegrips I hide mine with a set of metric spanners and a decent;) hammer in a small toolbox under the seat of the jeep. That way at least I know where they are.If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.
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spayed off with rosate and sowed i think 5 june this year,spead slurry after sowing then 4 bags of 18/6/12 andclosed the gate,it was set with a aitchison slot sower 30euros a acre cost.seed was bought in england off cotswold seeds ,see them on the net for price, i set the hardy root mixture this year with rape ,i think the seed was around 28 euros.i started feeding it last year on the 1 of nov and 5 acres kept 28 weanlings 110 days they got 2bales of silage ever 3/4 days.as you know we had a hard winter last year,but they loved it and did really well on it.i have 14 acres of it this year so will be putting some cows out.theres a lot of info on you tube that i am takeing on board try looking up out wintering cattle and go from there i have.Hi Legwax
I think you explained before, but can you give a brief run through of how you go about sowing it? ie what date did you set it? How did you set it? How much does it work out an acre? When do you start feeding it? How many cows/acre? etc. A lot of questions - sorry!
Did you see this weeks IFJ ? There's a pic of a lad picking his up with a forage wagon. He's going mixing it with wholecrop barley (i think) and making a pit of it. I didn't think you could do that, you learn something new everyday! It does make it a dearer feed though and you've the whole slurry issue then when feeding in a shed.
Also on the issue of out wintering. I know some of our neighbours across the pond in England build up grass covers in late summer/autumn to feed cattle on over the winter. Is this allowed in Ireland? Is grass any good like this?? like kale, could be supplemented. I know they'd plough up, but you could level and shake grass seed the following spring. Madness??0 -
Bob i think you are mistaken
We summer graze nearly 200 cattle a year - selling in October/November and there is no shed on the beef farm. We have been in REPS 1, 2 and 3 and been inspected many times and it has never been an issue.
I think the issue is that if you are wintering cattle then you need the required level of storage even if the animal is outwintered all winter. so if you out winter 100 cattle you still need storage for 100 cattle even though the tank may never be used. That's how i see it anyway
Am open to correction of course
Your above scenario is a definite anyway, but I dont think there is somewhere that says in the Nitrates about only summer grazing, I will have a scan through the bible and come back to you lads about it. Unfortunately for the wrong reasons I am fairly well versed on the Regulations 0 -
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would be worth testing for resistance, which dosing with Zolvix will prevent for this year. Probably best leaving till next year now, as best to try and get some thrive back into the lambs.
Are you still going to test the dung, might be a waste of money if not dosing with white or yellow dose and then doing a follow up check to check resistance. what did you dose with previously white or yellow?
They got two rounds of Panacur SC this Summer which is white. Wouldn't mind but I'd planned to do FEC's this year but kept putting them on the long finger :rolleyes: Not testing the dung, will see how the lambs do for a bit, if I can get shot of them if they put a bit more condition on I will. So much for getting them away early this year Agree with you about leaving the testing until next year really, bit late now. 0 -
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Had an argument at the last discussion meting about that. I always leave it on but the advisor had a fit giving out about thermoduric and TBC and everything else. I only rip the cooler every year when dry, more to keep myself happy than to actually clean it. But i didnt know there was an air inlet (or is that only in 2 stage plate coolers)milkprofit wrote: »Whelan 1
Make sure filter is before plate cooler
keep filter in when washing no saw dust should get to plate cooler
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johngalway wrote: »They got two rounds of Panacur SC this Summer which is white. Wouldn't mind but I'd planned to do FEC's this year but kept putting them on the long finger :rolleyes: Not testing the dung, will see how the lambs do for a bit, if I can get shot of them if they put a bit more condition on I will. So much for getting them away early this year Agree with you about leaving the testing until next year really, bit late now.
I dosed the lambs on the out farm this year early with panacur and the ones on the home farm with yellow as a simple test. Bit paranoid as had used ivermectin dose last two years and should be rotating. Lambs on yellow thrived excellent, others just didn't looks like I have white resistence. long term is to be able to do FEC on farm, just need to get time to learn how
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I dosed the lambs on the out farm this year early with panacur and the ones on the home farm with yellow as a simple test. Bit paranoid as had used ivermectin dose last two years and should be rotating. Lambs on yellow thrived excellent, others just didn't looks like I have white resistence. long term is to be able to do FEC on farm, just need to get time to learn how
Our vet will send the samples off for €6 a time. Thought about getting a kit, then thought better of it 0 -
johngalway wrote: »Our vet will send the samples off for €6 a time. Thought about getting a kit, then thought better of it
Its not hard, the dear bit is the microscope.
Keep an eye out for the LIDL ones, they are perfect.
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johngalway wrote: »Trip to the vet this morning. Lambs have been in decent grass and getting fed but not thriving. Some scoury, all had been dosed twice. Brought some dung samples and told the tale. Left with Zolvix, he suspects resistance. Not what I wanted to hear, but what I expected, cold comfort being right!johngalway wrote: »They got two rounds of Panacur SC this Summer which is white. Wouldn't mind but I'd planned to do FEC's this year but kept putting them on the long finger :rolleyes: Not testing the dung, will see how the lambs do for a bit, if I can get shot of them if they put a bit more condition on I will. So much for getting them away early this year Agree with you about leaving the testing until next year really, bit late now.
could be resistance to whites, ........ not familiar with Zolvix, but I would recommend Cydectin drench
you said they are fed? is it a commercial sheep ration , I would recommend taking a few bloods to check for minerals and trace elements but may not be accurate cos of the meal,
we always bolus all lambs left at this time of year with selenium, iodine, copper and cobalt or maybe a shot of growvite or twin tup would help0 -
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