Farming Chit Chat

johngalway

pakalasa wrote: »

You'd wonder if you'd be better off getting rid of cows when they get to a certain age regardless of how good or bad they are. Older cows tend to get sicker more often. I know some of the well known suckler farmers, in the Journal and that, have a policy of doing this.

Yes, same as sheep.

Kovu

pakalasa wrote: »

You'd wonder if you'd be better off getting rid of cows when they get to a certain age regardless of how good or bad they are. Older cows tend to get sicker more often. I know some of the well known suckler farmers, in the Journal and that, have a policy of doing this.

It can be hit and miss with us. We have a 7yr old cow here and dropped our first blonde. He will only suck a front spin that was used solely by that dwarf calf last year. Was strugging the back two at the weekend and the calf would latch on but stop after a few sucks. So typical me, I had a taste of both the front & back spins. The back ones tasted like they had been over-heated Like milk that had been boiled a wee bit over the pasteurisation level. Anyone any idea? Would it have anything to do with them being out of action last year? Think she's on the cull list next year anyway.

Tipp Man

leg wax wrote: »

just back from loading cows with heifer calves and bringing then over the road to 25 acres, on my last load got back to field with calves to find the cow that i had at ploughing dead in middle of the field.:mad::(:eek:

That's terrible luck leg wax

Heart attack?

Vick7

My Dad got a letter today that his new tractor, 94 Ursus, has not been taxed yet. He won't be going on the roads with it so does he just ignore the letter or does he need to inform them it's not for road use.

reilig

Vick7 wrote: »

My Dad got a letter today that his new tractor, 94 Ursus, has not been taxed yet. He won't be going on the roads with it so does he just ignore the letter or does he need to inform them it's not for road use.

He can just ignore it. As long as he will never bring it on a public road or cross a public road now or in the future, there is no need to have road tax on it.

However, remember that if he ever plans bringing it onto the road in the future or selling it to someone that plans to drive it on the road in the future, then it will have to be back taxed for the years missed. There are new rules coming in that you can no longer go to the guards to get them to sign a declaration that the vehicle was off the road in order to avoid paying the road tax for the period that it was off the road. In this case, it might be a cheap option to keep the tax up to date?

blue5000

Hard luck with that legwax, she must have been stressed when seperated from the calf. Looks like the heart, or possibly borderline grass tetany, and the extra stress killed her. Sh1t happens.

just do it

Vick7 wrote: »

My Dad got a letter today that his new tractor, 94 Ursus, has not been taxed yet. He won't be going on the roads with it so does he just ignore the letter or does he need to inform them it's not for road use.

Ring the number on the form, better to be on the right side of the law. Especially when it comes to selling the tractor;)

Bodacious

reilig wrote: »

leg wax wrote: »

just back from loading cows with heifer calves and bringing then over the road to 25 acres, on my last load got back to field with calves to find the cow that i had at ploughing dead in middle of the field.:mad::(:eek:

that's awful Leg wax, I'm really sorry for your loss, it would test the best of us a fine Cow like that

1chippy

sorry to hear about that leg wax. serious animal if its the same one im thinking of. what kinda age and how long was she calved.

Finno59

i'd say leave her alone, the only cure is time, The back legs being weaker than front means its defo paralysis, the nerves will heal up over time. Lift her if you like but not sure if it will speed things up.

tismesoitis

As from yesterday tismesoitis is a Gentleman:D little baby girl arrived safe n sound herself and mam doin great.wonder what her 17 mth brother will make of her when he meets her tomorrow;):D life does'nt get better!!!!!

Bodacious

tismesoitis wrote: »

As from yesterday tismesoitis is a Gentleman:D little baby girl arrived safe n sound herself and mam doin great.wonder what her 17 mth brother will make of her when he meets her tomorrow;):D life does'nt get better!!!!!

Congratulations to you all:)

just do it

Finno59 wrote: »

i'd say leave her alone, the only cure is time, The back legs being weaker than front means its defo paralysis, the nerves will heal up over time. Lift her if you like but not sure if it will speed things up.

+1
Having her on a good soft bed to avoid pressure sores is way more important than lifting. She'll get up when she's ready

just do it

tismesoitis wrote: »

As from yesterday tismesoitis is a Gentleman:D little baby girl arrived safe n sound herself and mam doin great.wonder what her 17 mth brother will make of her when he meets her tomorrow;):D life does'nt get better!!!!!

Congratulations, and you're right, it doesn't get much better than that!!:D What will you call her, shesminesosheis?:D;)

bogman_bass

tismesoitis wrote: »

As from yesterday tismesoitis is a Gentleman:D

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pffft! I'll believe that when I see it lad!:D

just do it

just do it wrote: »

They're an aid alright, but I'd say the more you can observe them the better. I used them but not with great success. I've a vasectomised bill now and he's a far better job. I don't have the time to watch them closely enough.

The one tip I'd give is don't rush in and ai them too early. The bull tends to start picking them up a day or two before they're standing. Even when they are standing I'm inclined to ai them closer to 24 hours later rather than 12 hours later.

Best of luck!

Case in point. A first calver was standing for strong male bulls 2 days ago. No activity yesterday, at least not while I was at the shed. No sign this morning and now this evening she's mad bulling again:rolleyes:.

Bizzum

Offline for 2 days and I get back to a downer cow, a dead cow, and a child being born.
Getting shocking like a soap opera in here!
Hard luck/Best of luck to all.

The wheel of life keeps on turning.

bob charles

Bizzum wrote: »

Offline for 2 days and I get back to a downer cow, a dead cow, and a child being born.
Getting shocking like a soap opera in here!
Hard luck/Best of luck to all.

The wheel of life keeps on turning.

two more dead and no life here, to add to the drama :D

pakalasa

Grumpy Smurf is selling his Same tractor;

"Readvertised due to pure time wasters no one has came to look at this yet constantly gettin phone calls no one commin if ye want some one to talk to ring the samaritans not me..."

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/tractors/2869590

We should all ring him for the laugh........

Muckit

pakalasa wrote: »

We should all ring him for the laugh........

I don't think he'd get the joke. I don't blame him. I HATE selling anything private. The amount of timewasters is unbelievable. The sad thing is that a lot of lads I think do ring up because they are lonely and its a common interest, they're just not interested in buying it though.

But in saying that, it's something that has to be allowed for and accepted if you want to sell anything. I just bite my lip now and try and at least waste their phone credit if nothing else

PMU

Muckit wrote: »

I don't think he'd get the joke. I don't blame him. I HATE selling anything private. The amount of timewasters is unbelievable. The sad thing is that a lot of lads I think do ring up because they are lonely and its a common interest, they're just not interested in buying it though.

But in saying that, it's something that has to be allowed for and accepted if you want to sell anything. I just bite my lip now and try and at least waste their phone credit if nothing else

bangor erris; you want milage just to go look at it!

redzerologhlen

Went out there a bout an hour ago to put the bale handler on the tractor for the morning. Looked up the mountain behind the house while I was doing it and spotted a cow a bit off by herself that the auld lad said wouldnt calve for a fortnight. Said to myself I better run up and take a look at her so got the quad and the flashlamp and headed off, sure enough she had a grand red lim heifer inside under when I got as far as her, grand to see the first calf of 2012 and time to put the auld lad into retirement me thinks

just do it

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Went out there a bout an hour ago to put the bale handler on the tractor for the morning. Looked up the mountain behind the house while I was doing it and spotted a cow a bit off by herself that the auld lad said wouldnt calve for a fortnight. Said to myself I better run up and take a look at her so got the quad and the flashlamp and headed off, sure enough she had a grand red lim heifer inside under when I got as far as her, grand to see the first calf of 2012 and time to put the auld lad into retirement me thinks

Good luck with this year's calvings, and especially with getting the auld lad to retire!:D;)

Kovu

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Went out there a bout an hour ago to put the bale handler on the tractor for the morning. Looked up the mountain behind the house while I was doing it and spotted a cow a bit off by herself that the auld lad said wouldnt calve for a fortnight. Said to myself I better run up and take a look at her so got the quad and the flashlamp and headed off, sure enough she had a grand red lim heifer inside under when I got as far as her, grand to see the first calf of 2012 and time to put the auld lad into retirement me thinks

Reminds me of my late grandfather telling my dad that a certain cow looked like she was going to calve that night. The same cow was calved two months:o

blue5000

pakalasa wrote: »

Grumpy Smurf is selling his Same tractor;

"Readvertised due to pure time wasters no one has came to look at this yet constantly gettin phone calls no one commin if ye want some one to talk to ring the samaritans not me..."

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/tractors/2869590

We should all ring him for the laugh........

That man has my sympathy, there definitely is ppl just ringing up for a chat. I'm half thinking of putting a number for the samaritins next time I put an ad on dd.

bbam

Was on the road earlier and saw what looked like a brand new small square baler on the back of a truck heading towards Cavan town.
Don't know when I saw a new one last?? Probably the 70's. Wouldn't be much call for one round these parts.

bob charles

bbam wrote: »

Was on the road earlier and saw what looked like a brand new small square baler on the back of a truck heading towards Cavan town.
Don't know when I saw a new one last?? Probably the 70's. Wouldn't be much call for one round these parts.

I taught they were still making cocks of hay in Cavan

bbam

bob charles wrote: »

I taught they were still making cocks of hay in Cavan

That's right.
Wooden rakes, bottles of cold tea, batch loaf and the butter sliced onto it (none of that spread muck, that's for city folks). An auld fella twisting hay ropes.
Me thinks the memory is better than the reality ever was.

Funny we went straight from cocks and a rick of hay to a slab of concrete and a out of silage. Never made a bale of hay. Sometime round 75/76 timeframe from what I remember ( obviously I'm far too young to remember clearly)

johngalway

bob charles wrote: »

I taught they were still making cocks of hay in Cavan

One or two still make them around here. After last years downpour that might be the end of them, one lads hay was pure black.

Kovu

My Dad used to do them and still did up until a few years ago, in one field that is inaccessible for a baler. I used to be the one on the top of the trailer tramping it. Great fun until you fell on a thistle:o

Me and my brother were wild when we were younger, used to climb to the top of the three round bales that were stacked in the hayshed, hang off the beam and jump/fall onto the loose hay below:P
Great craic altogether!

Actually thinking back, that hay was only about a metre deep if even that. Ah well, we still survived.

whelan1

bbam wrote: »

Was on the road earlier and saw what looked like a brand new small square baler on the back of a truck heading towards Cavan town.
Don't know when I saw a new one last?? Probably the 70's. Wouldn't be much call for one round these parts.

a few people round here do them for the horsey people

whelan1

testinfg today, just have milkers left to do vet coming back at 4 as cows are out.... wrecked already.... will enjoy a glass of wine tonight

redzerologhlen

Calf number 2 hit the ground today, the auld lad's timing was a bit better with this one

pakalasa

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Calf number 2 hit the ground today, the auld lad's timing was a bit better with this one

Cow is in great nick for one that was outwintered without silage or hay.

redzerologhlen

pakalasa wrote: »

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Calf number 2 hit the ground today, the auld lad's timing was a bit better with this one

Cow is in great nick for one that was outwintered without silage or hay.

She held well now alright and put up a great bag, they are gettin 3kg meal a head with the last 3 weeks alright though.

bbam

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Calf number 2 hit the ground today, the auld lad's timing was a bit better with this one

Thats a sight that would warm the cockles of your heart

stanflt

downer cow still not up:( shes a picture of health, just one of those things

on a more positive note i milked my first FLT heifer this evening. she calved around 11, a smashing HVA heifer calf

whelan1

did ya get the vet to have a look at her? well done on the heifer:D

stanflt

whelan1 wrote: »

did ya get the vet to have a look at her? well done on the heifer:D

yeah vet has looked at her twice- heart is perfect no temp- eyes not sunken- biggest problem is she is bursting with milk

whelan1

feck hate that, just when you think you have them milked out there's more:eek: must be some sort of hurt so..... did you hear about the vet dropping dead in the factory in duleek today, young man:(

stanflt

whelan1 wrote: »

feck hate that, just when you think you have them milked out there's more:eek: must be some sort of hurt so..... did you hear about the vet dropping dead in the factory in duleek today, young man:(

my vet is a young man that was in the factory today-hope its not him

whelan1

he was from vets in ardee... r.i.p... not our vets

stanflt

r i p

bogman_bass

when to get the fertilizer spreader back off the neighbours this morning andthe PTO shaft was jammed solid. had to cut off the guard and after 2 and a half hours and a full can of wd40 got it free:mad:. frustrating morning

just do it

Togged out for the junior B team last night- first game in 8 years! And I couldn't believe it, I was put straight in at mid-field. Seeing as I'm only 5'8'' it was the first time I've ever played in that position. First half was grand but by god was I glad to be substituted/ given a rest after 20mins of the second half. Suffering today:rolleyes:

whelan1

just do it wrote: »

Togged out for the junior B team last night- first game in 8 years! And I couldn't believe it, I was put straight in at mid-field. Seeing as I'm only 5'8'' it was the first time I've ever played in that position. First half was grand but by god was I glad to be substituted/ given a rest after 20mins of the second half. Suffering today:rolleyes:

know the feeling :rolleyes: not doing football but running along with work is pure hardship... along with kids waking during the night:mad:

just do it

whelan1 wrote: »

know the feeling :rolleyes: not doing football but running along with work is pure hardship... along with kids waking during the night:mad:

Well I'm looking forward to next weekend. The kids will get to see Daddy playing in a game! They're 2.5 and 4 and it will be a shock to their system:D. I hope they don't get to see Daddy fighting:eek:

johngalway

just do it wrote: »

Well I'm looking forward to next weekend. The kids will get to see Daddy playing in a game! They're 2.5 and 4 and it will be a shock to their system:D. I hope they don't get to see Daddy fighting:eek:

"Look, there's Daddy in a schamozzel putting manners on the bad, bad man!"

:pac:

Bizzum

just do it wrote: »

I hope they don't get to see Daddy fighting:eek:

Better to see daddy fighting than daddy running away

Coming down stairs can be tricky for a few days if you're sore!

keep going

played a game last year the day after my 42nd birthday.was feeling right proud of myself after the game until the next day-dead men could move better,and the next day,and the next,and the next..........:(loved every minute of the game though and to think some fellas go on strike