Farming Chit Chat

Muckit

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Just thinking about it now the first ten cows that have calved to our own bull have had ten heifers, strange, does the bull have anything to do in determining the sex of the calf because we had a lot more heifers than bulls last year aswell. Maybe its just chance....

He could have only one ball working

Finno59

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Just thinking about it now the first ten cows that have calved to our own bull have had ten heifers, strange, does the bull have anything to do in determining the sex of the calf because we had a lot more heifers than bulls last year aswell. Maybe its just chance....

pakalasa wrote: »

You can look this up on www.icbf,com for the different AI bulls, under the Calving Traits tab. I was wondering the same before, as I seemed to be getting a lot of bulls from the same bull. Answer is about 51% male is the norm. For example some well known bulls as follows;
MBU - Total 13,487 births, 51% male
CF52 - Total 12,165 births, 52% male
HKG - Total 9,331 births, 50% male

Ya the bull decides sex of calf. Its either an X or Y chromosome that fertilizes the cow's egg which is X. Too x's makes a heifer and X and Y makes a bull.:cool: 10 heifers is a lot, he must have a higher ratio of Y cells to X cells unlike AI friesians :mad:

pakalasa

Talking to someone who said they saw silage being drawn on the road last week in Cork. :eek:

1chippy

150 round bales made on a wet farm in cavan yesterday. the man baling reckoned he only ever brought the baler out for repairs at this time of year.

redzerologhlen

Muckit wrote: »

He could have only one ball working

If it was that simple I would say there would be a lot of lads taking a ball of their friesans!!

whelan1

it always evens out if you have a run of heifers this year you'll have bulls next year

Muckit

redzerologhlen wrote: »

If it was that simple I would say there would be a lot of lads taking a ball of their friesans!!

Ah..... but which one?

redzerologhlen

Muckit wrote: »

Ah..... but which one?

''Eanie, meanie, miney, moe'' I believe is the formula used to decide which one is to go

Kovu

5live wrote: »

Is that with heels as well Blue?:D

Karen 112 is allowed but im not so sure you are;)

I think my fathers eyes raised heaven the other morning when I arrived to dehorn the calves in a dress and tights. Not a scrap of muck on me. He, on the other hand got covered. It's all about the dodging!

EDIT- And a good meal bag behind that calf to stop them ripping tights with kicks!

Richk2012

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Just thinking about it now the first ten cows that have calved to our own bull have had ten heifers, strange, does the bull have anything to do in determining the sex of the calf because we had a lot more heifers than bulls last year aswell. Maybe its just chance....

I dont know about the bull Redzer , but its said when thawing straws for A.I if you thaw around 35degrees your more likely to get a bull calf , and 37degrees a heifer .... Obviously not a certainty , but its ment to boost your chances......;)

Bizzum

Finno59 wrote: »

Ya the bull decides sex of calf. Its either an X or Y chromosome that fertilizes the cow's egg which is X. Too x's makes a heifer and X and Y makes a bull.:cool: 10 heifers is a lot, he must have a higher ratio of Y cells to X cells unlike AI friesians :mad:

My limited understanding of genetics is there are a finite number of pairs of chromosomes XY, 23 pairs in humans, which to reproduce split randomly.
This would suggest to me that having a run of ten heifers will over time average out.
I have heard all sort of theories about producing bull calves or heifer calves but I think the stats point to a rough 50/50 split.

Bleating Lamb

Just had one of those feel good moments.Lambing in full swing at mo,more mature ladies lambing outside ,hoggetts in shed.Noticed a ewe outside on last round around 7pm making her bed.Had a hunch tonight when checking shed around 11:30pm just to take quick spin out the field...came on same ewe with slime out...nothing happening,got her caught...first lamb coming backways,second one had head way down...both very far through but alive.Went back up for quad trailer,put them in shed and gave them colostrum....good when ya save an odd one.

whelan1

a neighbour came over yesterday looking for a missing black bullock that he had let out on saturday evening.... got a call last night at 9pm that there was a black animal on the motorway:eek: now where the bullock was between saturday night and last night is a mystery... got my dad to go over to give a hand , the guards had the traffic stopped completely and they where trying to load him the last i heard at 10.20 pm

jerdee

came home last night from a day out in muckross park to find a new full bottle of trodax had burst ontop of fridge must be sunlight anyway lifted down bag paper and it spilled everywhere oh hasn't t spotted it yet and my hands are yellow like fake tan .............s..t Will hit the fan when I get home........next time I think I Will put it med press
...

5live

Karen112 wrote: »

I think my fathers eyes raised heaven the other morning when I arrived to dehorn the calves in a dress and tights. Not a scrap of muck on me. He, on the other hand got covered. It's all about the dodging!

EDIT- And a good meal bag behind that calf to stop them ripping tights with kicks!

Oh no!!!! I just got a picture in my head of blue5000 in a dress and high heels dehorning calves and its lodged there. But he is using the plastic bag too so its ok:D

PatQfarmer

Finally got pic up. Silage cutting 25th March 2012 near Ardfinnan, Clonmel.
'Twould do your heart good!
http://yfrog.com/mma73qej

Tipp Man

PatQfarmer wrote: »

Finally got pic up. Silage cutting 25th March 2012 near Ardfinnan, Clonmel.
'Twould do your heart good!
http://yfrog.com/mma73qej

And he's not even a dairy farmer!!

He usually cuts the headlands of his silage fields early (not sure why) but never this early

PatQfarmer

Tipp Man wrote: »

And he's not even a dairy farmer!!

He usually cuts the headlands of his silage fields early (not sure why) but never this early

I usually cut headlands and wrap it in fields that I intend to cut hay off. It makes it easier to turn.
If that's what he's doing, he must not expect any re-growth before June/July:D
OH was driving, I made her stop so I could get pic.
You live out around there? I'm other side of Clonmel.

Kovu

5live wrote: »

Oh no!!!! I just got a picture in my head of blue5000 in a dress and high heels dehorning calves and its lodged there. But he is using the plastic bag too so its ok:D

AHAHAHAHAAHAHA. I just burst out laughing at work.

Tipp Man

PatQfarmer wrote: »

I usually cut headlands and wrap it in fields that I intend to cut hay off. It makes it easier to turn.
If that's what he's doing, he must not expect any re-growth before June/July:D
OH was driving, I made her stop so I could get pic.
You live out around there? I'm other side of Clonmel.

Yeah not too far at all from there.

You must surely be related to PF??

PatQfarmer

Tipp Man wrote: »

Yeah not too far at all from there.

You must surely be related to PF??

About as close as is genetically possible, he's my dad:)

Tipp Man

PatQfarmer wrote: »

About as close as is genetically possible, he's my dad:)

Was thinking so!! - but didn't realise ye had land

Some good land where you were driving yesterday

PatQfarmer

Tipp Man wrote: »

Was thinking so!! - but didn't realise ye had land

Some good land where you were driving yesterday

Excellent land. Plenty of it in tillage too!
South-facing, so sun always pushes growth:)
I'm part-time farming, but recession in property biz allows more time for farming...:rolleyes:

Tipp Man

PatQfarmer wrote: »

Excellent land. Plenty of it in tillage too!
South-facing, so sun always pushes growth:)
I'm part-time farming, but recession in property biz allows more time for farming...:rolleyes:

Ye the tillage fellas round us would be some of the best in the country, the ardfinnan area would be well known to have consistently the best yields- which is a pain as they are more than prepared to pay for rental land

Things bad in Clonmel alright - half the non-residential property in the town must be for sale or to rent - and no takers i can imagine

And very little to no land being sold from what i can see

wesleysniper38

Hi all. I've 30 x 2.5 year old heifers. most of them are 2 months gone in calf. I vaccinated them all for BVD before they were bulled. a local expert maintained to me that it woluld have been better to waituntil now to do them . I argued with him that it is too late to vaccinate once they,d gone in calf but he reckoned you could vaccinate up to 3 months in calf.
Needless to say this debate took place over a gallon of portar .
Clarification please?

5live

So i sold a few cattle and went to the bank this morning to lodge cheque and pay off the last of my milktank loan. And as i have a new manager i wanted to test the waters and see if she knew her stuff and what a bit of building i have in mind would cost in repayments. My 4th manager in 2 years so i am getting used to sounding them out:rolleyes:.

So i pay off the loan and enquire as to the repayments. Cant tell you, sez she, i am being transferred and you will have to speak to the new manager.

So 5 managers in 2 years:mad:. Is this a record or am i being very hard on bank managers:)

reilig

wesleysniper38 wrote: »

Hi all. I've 30 x 2.5 year old heifers. most of them are 2 months gone in calf. I vaccinated them all for BVD before they were bulled. a local expert maintained to me that it woluld have been better to waituntil now to do them . I argued with him that it is too late to vaccinate once they,d gone in calf but he reckoned you could vaccinate up to 3 months in calf.
Needless to say this debate took place over a gallon of portar .
Clarification please?

I don't know if its right or wrong, but i always vaccinate them before they run with the bull.

Bizzum

wesleysniper38 wrote: »

Hi all. I've 30 x 2.5 year old heifers. most of them are 2 months gone in calf. I vaccinated them all for BVD before they were bulled. a local expert maintained to me that it woluld have been better to waituntil now to do them . I argued with him that it is too late to vaccinate once they,d gone in calf but he reckoned you could vaccinate up to 3 months in calf.
Needless to say this debate took place over a gallon of portar .
Clarification please?

I think the local expert may have been basing his argument on the fact that you are advised not to vacc within a couple of weeks of breeding. I think it's more to do with the stress associated with handling as much as anything else that may effect conception rates.
We try and do them a month or 6 weeks before the bull.

pakalasa

My understanding - The danger period for BVD is the first 3 months of pregnancy. Ideally they should be done before the breeding season, but doing them in the first 3 months is better than, not doing them at all. If that makes sense.
I did mine last year, on the instructions of the VET, while some of them were in calf. This was because I left it too late , when I asked the VET initially, rather than he advising me to do them at that stage of pregnancy.

blue5000

5live wrote: »

Oh no!!!! I just got a picture in my head of blue5000 in a dress and high heels dehorning calves and its lodged there. But he is using the plastic bag too so its ok:D

Sh1t my big secret is out now, hope you're seein me in a blue dress with a respectable knee length hemline:o:o:o:o:o

blue5000

I'm trying to register calves online and dept website is fooked. Just wondering if anyone else is having problems with AIM.

PS I am wearing jeans, a t-shirt and a jumper+pierre cardin socks for anybody with a bad imagination:D

Bizzum

Bizzum wrote: »

I think the local expert may have been basing his argument on the fact that you are advised not to vacc within a couple of weeks of breeding. I think it's more to do with the stress associated with handling as much as anything else that may effect conception rates.
We try and do them a month or 6 weeks before the bull.

Sorry folks. Im my head I was talking about Lepto, but I see everyone else was talking about BVD. This heat must be getting to me!

Bizzum

blue5000 wrote: »

PS I am wearing jeans, a t-shirt and a jumper+pierre cardin socks for anybody with a bad imagination:D

Going commando Blue?

blue5000

Bizzum wrote: »

Going commando Blue?

As you said yourself the heat is getting to you:D

And the jeans are semi-crotchless too, Will have to be careful of the papparazzi when I'm getting out of the jeep/ off the tractor:eek:

A meal bag might be handy

Kovu

blue5000 wrote: »

Sh1t my big secret is out now, hope you're seein me in a blue dress with a respectable knee length hemline:o:o:o:o:o

If you're wearing one of mine you're fooked so!:D

Finno59

Where do i find a pedigree cow's genetic dam number?

blue5000

Finno59 wrote: »

Where do i find a pedigree cow's genetic dam number?

Should be on her blue card, unless she is ancient

whelan1

Just calved a heifer, jack slipped twice, she went dow in crush,calfs head was swollen, was barely breathing when we got him out.... now has his head up and she is standinf... i am bet though:o

Richk2012

whelan1 wrote: »

Just calved a heifer, jack slipped twice, she went dow in crush,calfs head was swollen, was barely breathing when we got him out.... now has his head up and she is standinf... i am bet though:o

If I were you whelan Id replace that jack straight away. Once they start slipping its the warning sign to fcuk it out , because as true as eggs are eggs , it will let you down when you most need it .
And your better off with no jack than a bad jack , because at least then you wont try and calve the tougher ones and get caught out .
Hope the heifer and calf go on for you

sea12

Isnt farming great when things are going well and the weather like this.
Had three sets of triplets lambs over the past few days and most ewes are having twins. Weather is so good I can let them out after a day (not the triples yet) Even let a big single born this morning out this evening too. Its healthier and shed is a bit full.
Farm full of grass.

Hope it continues this way.:D

Richk2012

sea12 wrote: »

Isnt farming great when things are going well and the weather like this.
Had three sets of triplets lambs over the past few days and most ewes are having twins. Weather is so good I can let them out after a day (not the triples yet) Even let a big single born this morning out this evening too. Its healthier and shed is a bit full.
Farm full of grass.

Hope it continues this way.:D

I was out checking the ewes last night at 3.30 in a t-shirt . So mild its great. No foxs around your way i take it .

dar31

honda quads are really gone pi** poor as of late.
have a 420 that is only 9 months old, and the front wheel bearings are gone in both sides, as well as the track rod ends.
seat cover split open for no reason as well.
had a 420 for 2 years previous to this one as well, and nothing but trouble with it:mad::mad:

dar31

Richk2012 wrote: »

I was out checking the ewes last night at 3.30 in a t-shirt . So mild its great. No foxs around your way i take it .

the problem with the warm weather now, is i dont have a hat on during the day, they are great for fixing up dodgy bits of electric wire

Birdnuts

dar31 wrote: »

the problem with the warm weather now, is i dont have a hat on during the day,

Doing a bit of fencing today and forgot the hat = big sore red head:(

jerdee

spent a whole hour after washing a bull for sale this evening down on my knees scrubbing the todax of f
the fecking floor tis some sh. to stain
..

Kovu

jerdee wrote: »

spent a whole hour after washing a bull for sale this evening down on my knees scrubbing the todax of f
the fecking floor tis some sh. to stain
..

Try red hair dye. Looks like a psychopath went on a spree in the bathroom!

jerdee

Karen112 wrote: »

jerdee wrote: »

spent a whole hour after washing a bull for sale this evening down on my knees scrubbing the todax of f
the fecking floor tis some sh. to stain
..

Try red hair dye. Looks like a psychopath went on a spree in the bathroom!

looks like my fingers have been smoking a hundred fags a day ........and I don t smoke......

Kovu

jerdee wrote: »

looks like my fingers have been smoking a hundred fags a day ........and I don t smoke......

I've covered myself with the stuff before while injecting a cow and she leapt while I was injecting her. Ended up looking like I was jaundiced!
Another time I was helping a man vaccinate on the chutes at work and managed (somehow) to vaccinate myself! Cue trip to the doctor 2 days later when my finger was swollen like a balloon.

bob charles

dar31 wrote: »

honda quads are really gone pi** poor as of late.
have a 420 that is only 9 months old, and the front wheel bearings are gone in both sides, as well as the track rod ends.
seat cover split open for no reason as well.
had a 420 for 2 years previous to this one as well, and nothing but trouble with it:mad::mad:

If something is crap once, dont go back looking for more misery

johngalway

dar31 wrote: »

honda quads are really gone pi** poor as of late.
have a 420 that is only 9 months old, and the front wheel bearings are gone in both sides, as well as the track rod ends.
seat cover split open for no reason as well.
had a 420 for 2 years previous to this one as well, and nothing but trouble with it:mad::mad:

When I was looking up quads I did see a lot of people say to steer clear of the 420's. There also seems to be a lot of them for sale second hand.