Something going on along the river

biko

I guess this is the man?
http://www.galwaynews.ie/17623-search-resumes-man-river-corrib

A search is resuming this morning for a man thought to have entered the water in the city last evening.
Galway RNLI lifeboat, the Irish Coastguard helicopter, the fire brigade and Gardaí were involved in the search last evening, but no-one was found.

amy85

such a sad outcome. condolences to the persons family and friends

brembo26

^^^yea thats right, but they are continuing there search today for a man thats been missing since January aswell.

brembo26

More info: It wasnt the person who entered last night that was recovered, it was someone else. Search continues.

dolphin city

the man that the found is NOT the man that was in the water yesterday.

Scary how common this is becoming.

Sponge Bob

Always was Dolphin, sadly I remember a time c 2005/2006 when a helicopter was seemingly beachcombing almost every saturday....and not always the SAR which specialises in finding live ones using Infra Red sensors.

emptybladder

In the interest of sensitivity, perhaps previous posts could be edited to replace a particular word used with 'entered' or 'fell into' the water.

gaeilgegrinds1

In a recession marraiges, birthrates and tragic losses like this increase. Poor families involved.

vulcan57

With people going into the river quite frequently these days and then most of the time being washed out to sea how about this idea. How much would it cost to have a net or grill of some kind across the water at Wolftone bridge that could stop anyone being washed down the river? Ok, granted it may not save every life, but it would save the trauma of the relatives searching for their loved ones and I am sure it would also save a lot as well.

samdeman

vulcan57 wrote: »

With people going into the river quite frequently these days and then most of the time being washed out to sea how about this idea. How much would it cost to have a net or grill of some kind across the water at Wolftone bridge that could stop anyone being washed down the river? Ok, granted it may not save every life, but it would save the trauma of the relatives searching for their loved ones and I am sure it would also save a lot as well.

great idea. what a small investment to prevent so much heartache

Mrs OBumble

Jelly 292 wrote: »

... about 5

Mr justMary was acquainted with the man who disappeared about two weeks ago (not yet know if he was the one found on Mutton Island), and also with the woman who was the subject of the last major helicopter search. We haven't heard anything about yesterdays incident as yet, but seriously hoping these things don't come in threes.

There was no evidence that the river was involved with man-from-two-weeks-ago .. but given that we live in a city surrounded by water it's an ever-present threat. The garda told him that there are about 20/year.

Also, don't assume these things are necessarily related to the recession.

Sponge Bob

Can we not simply ban this kind of thread unless an official announcement is made <hint , normally it ain't unless the internet is yabbering about it which emboldens our more ghoulish journalists>

ronnie3585

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Can we not simply ban this kind of thread unless an official announcement is made <hint , normally it ain't unless the internet is yabbering about it which emboldens our more ghoulish journalists>

I agree with you on this one SB. These threads serve no function. They don't provide any assistance to anyone and quickly spin out into pointless bickering and Joe Duffyesq sentiments.

Jelly 292

On second thoughts the above posters are correct.

Sponge Bob

Just the way it is Ronnie, the Guards will treat these situations very sensitively and some rubbernecking ghoul ( not a regular usually ) will start a thread here undoing their good work. I have seen far worse than this one over the years.

For the record I know two families who had to contend with 'situations' in the past year and they could not praise the guards highly enough.

So I am essentially asking for a rule that lets the guards do what they are very very good at, and in privacy.

Topper Harley01

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Can we not simply ban this kind of thread unless an official announcement is made <hint , normally it ain't unless the internet is yabbering about it which emboldens our more ghoulish journalists>

Why should it be banned though? No names were mentioned, nor was there any distressing information posted. If a family member requests it be closed, then that is one thing. But it's not up to you to censor what is posted here, or in the future.

People have a right to information too-by the above logic the Cork plane crash thread would be banned. I'm not trying to be insensitive, but your request strikes me as an over emotional knee-jerk reaction.

Sponge Bob

Because I am sick of them and because they invariably lead to a single inevitable conclusion. This one is only infamous for being about finding the 'wrong' body

So I propose a "give the guards the space to deal with delicate matters" rule and the regulars know what it means which is all that matters.

ronnie3585

Topper Harley01 wrote: »

Why should it be banned though? No names were mentioned, nor was there any distressing information posted. If a family member requests it be closed, then that is one thing. But it's not up to you to censor what is posted here, or in the future.

People have a right to information too-by the above logic the Cork plane crash thread would be banned. I'm not trying to be insensitive, but your request strikes me as an over emotional knee-jerk reaction.

I disagree.

In the ordinary course of events I am opposed to over moderation and threads being shut down. In this case I believe it's warranted.

You used the example of the Cork airplane crash. That thread, albeit a train wreck of a thread, did serve a function - a public interest function. People have a legitimate interest in having knowledge of that accident, both in general and specific terms. Air travel affects most of us and it is in the public interest to find out the cause(s) of the accident. Specifically, people would want to know the flight number/registration of the accident aircraft to hopefully exclude the possibility that a loved one/friend had been involved in the accident.

A thread relating to a person entering the river is not in the public interest. It's a sad fact that most individuals enter the Corrib of their own volition. The only persons that have an interest in this are the friends and family of the missing person. Accordingly, this information will be provided by the Gardai/Emergency Services. I'm sure it's an extremely difficult time for the missing persons family. Discussion on boards likes this are of absolutely probative value - they are nothing more than rubbernecking.

Ficheall

A small point - the kayakers were out doing some rescue drills on the day in question. After seeing the helicopter and fire brigade, here was the first place I came to check that it was not one of them.

dolphin city

helicoptor is out again this morning hovering over docks as we speak

Zillah

Sponge Bob wrote: »

So I am essentially asking for a rule that lets the guards do what they are very very good at, and in privacy.

Haha, you think the police should be able to work in privacy?

Sponge Bob

Zillah wrote: »

Haha, you think the police should be able to work in privacy?

In these cases absolutely. Other aspects of their work, not at all.

stunt_penguin

vulcan57 wrote: »

With people going into the river quite frequently these days and then most of the time being washed out to sea how about this idea. How much would it cost to have a net or grill of some kind across the water at Wolftone bridge that could stop anyone being washed down the river? Ok, granted it may not save every life, but it would save the trauma of the relatives searching for their loved ones and I am sure it would also save a lot as well.

If someone enters the water the last thing you want to do is hit a net or a grille- that would be what kayakers call a strainer- a swimmer is instantly forced onto the net/surface and pinned there, unable to move with a torrent of water rushing around their head. If they are exceptionally lucky they'll have their head above water, if not it's a guaranteed drowning.

Falling into the river corrib (anywhere below the salmon weir) in these circumstances (16 gates, full flood) is *not* a death sentence if someone is a strong swimmer and knows where to head for (heck, there was a guy doing it last year recreationally in fins and a mask).

Hitting a net under the wolfe tone bridge is most certainly going to be lethal.

A better suggestion would be

1 : To equip the emergency services on the ground with IR NVGs (not obscenely expensive)

2 : To dot the river with emergency phones at that will connect you to the S&R services stationed at the docks. That, or put the direct number of the local S&R services on every life preserver station.

3 : To have a set of emergency floodlights that can be turned on by the emergency services that would instantly light the river from the salmon weir to the bottom of Nimo's pier. The emergency heli takes 20 minutes to get from Shannon to Galway to provide their searchlight- they could concentrate on the shoreline and area nearer the harbour if the search of the river was made easy with a few thousand watts of light.

4 : On a slightly odder note, a siren warning of a swimmer in the water may allow people to look in the water & spot a swimmer so that their location may be followed, even if civilians are unable to affect a rescue.

snubbleste

This thread is far too detailed on mortality.

Aerohead

The board is where people go to express their views and to post if they see something happening around town, I cannot see what the problem is, the incident was on RTE radio news at 8pm on Sunday night. In fact the more people that know of something happening makes them alert to it and if they see something report it to the Garda. I know that since it happened I am looking more than normal at the sea shore when walking the prom.

Are people seriously saying dont post anything when a huge red rescue Coastguard Helicopter is going up and down the town in a blaze of lights, when there are Ambulances, Lifeboats, Fire Engines and Garda cars all along the river.

Bosco boy

Zillah wrote: »

Haha, you think the police should be able to work in privacy?

Maybe if it was someone belonging to your family you might realise the value of some privacy at this time, what's utter devastation to them is your entertainment!

Aerohead

Bosco boy wrote: »

Maybe if it was someone belonging to your family you might realise the value of some privacy at this time, what's utter devastation to them is your entertainment!

Are you seriously saying the the family of the unfortunate person who is missing check this board to see what posters are saying, most people dont even know the board exists. The posts on here are saying nothing bad towards anyone.

dolphin city

Bosco boy wrote: »

Maybe if it was someone belonging to your family you might realise the value of some privacy at this time, what's utter devastation to them is your entertainment!

its not entertainment - people are allowed to comment in a galway forum about what is happening in Galway.

Carolyyn

gaeilgegrinds1 wrote: »

In a recession marraiges, birthrates and tragic losses like this increase. Poor families involved.

This is a very sad story for the family involved but I hate to see sensationalist comments like this or to see them reported in newspaper headlines since it's not always the case that suicide rates are linked to the economic situation. The causes are very complex and that kind of talk makes people feel hopeless too.
It was reported recently that the highest recent rate of suicide was in 2003 at 12.5% when the country was in fine fettle ecomonically.

Sponge Bob

More people die in the Corrib than on Galway Roads every year. We don't start a thread on every road smash and I am getting really sick of these ones. Anybody who does not know what the helicopter is at is utterly undeserving of any consideration around here.