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Leaders Debate part 2 :)

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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    Its worrying that Adams can shut the lot of them up, he is the only presence up there.
    The rest of the are pink tie wearing ramblers


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 lilbelter


    pjmn wrote: »
    I’ve no political affiliation, but I’d rate them so far based on their contributions (which I’d admit aren’t awe inspiring from any of them) as follows…
    1. Enda
    2. Míchéal
    3. Gerry
    4. John
    5. Eamon



    Second that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Every time Martin opens his mouth i get more angry:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    If Martin wants Adams to answer his question, will he shut up and let him and his ideas be put forward and make nonsense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭baldbear


    Martin and Gormley are putting the boot into Gerry and Enda fairly well. Well planned. Gerry is useless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    DUP comment - how will that go down?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    omg enda just lied through his teeth :eek: indeed cork county council mainly FG run has increased rates by 4%!

    No he left a gap. He mentioned "FG councils have lowered or frozen rates in many areas, obviously there are some who have not"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Come on Gerry, tell us what you really think . .

    "Im going to goto Germany, give Merkel the two fingers, on the way back give that tiny french git the two fingers, give the banks two fingers, give the bondholders two fingers, give the protestants the two fingers, spend the national pension reserve and worry about next year someway down the line" . .


  • Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭tennessee time


    The G.a.a are the illuminati, they control the outcome of every election, all these leaders know it , lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭InReality


    Gerry should be much better on the economics by now. Its not as if he didn't expect the questions.

    Nice to see Gilmore attack martin. Martin looking a bit uncomfortable there !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    "Not Anglo" - stupid under the breath comment that many would have heard - not smart.


  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭Mike Strutter


    Enda is very quiet

    Is he still alive

    Can we ask him was it cold in the ground this morning and to say hello to Elvis when he gets back, tell him we were all asking for him


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 johnie89


    On a personal note... I just get more and more confused......

    I wish they could find something to agree on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,722 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    Right so I had no idea fg want first time buyers who chose not to fuel the property bubble to pay the price for those that did. I may now do what ive never done and always said i wouldnt and vote ff. That or just not vote. Seriously pissed off listening to that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    He left a gap and Martin drove a juggernaught through it.

    Enda doesn't like being challenged- he doesn't do rebuttal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭InReality


    hot from cork ;

    good question too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    How many times are we going to hear about the 5-point plan?


  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭Mike Strutter


    Ah cmon intelligent question !

    I want to know - Why are you letting the banks raise interest rates when in a recession you're supposed to lower interest rates


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭KerranJast


    Mmmmmmilf :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,787 ✭✭✭Jayob10


    pjmn wrote: »
    I’ve no political affiliation, but I’d rate them so far based on their contributions (which I’d admit aren’t awe inspiring from any of them) as follows…
    1. Enda
    2. Míchéal
    3. Gerry
    4. John
    5. Eamon

    people need to learn that this is all nonsense, debating and the like. We have gone all American looking for a believeable leader. I don't give a sh*te if our leader is a good debater and looks the part etc.....

    put it in context, Bertie would wipe the floor with all these lads in a debate and we certainly wouldn't want him again.

    This is entertainment, no substance to it WHATSOEVER


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭ReacherCreature


    Oh Gormley, stick to your argument will you!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    DIdn't they pre-screen these people? The questions from the audience are dire.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,030 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    I've heard too much of his waffle for it to have an effect at this stage. He was asked how his government would help create jobs..................still waiting for an answer.

    They were all asked. It's all waffle. It's a bleeding leaders debate and the only value of it is for the media to cream themselves over the next 3 to 4 days analysing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    I do. They're on national television and if speaking properly and committing (yes, I'm asking quite a bit) they could swing votes.

    Have they said one thing tonight that hasn't been said before? Only if someone hasn't taken any interest in this up to this point will they possibly get anything from this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    How many times are we going to hear about the 5-point plan?
    Its a good idea to keep hammering it in. Enda doesnt seem as out of control like the others.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    The biggest punch so far tonight went to JG and it seems to have winded EK


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Efficiencies but no pay or numbers cuts. Why didn't I think of that!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    Gormley completely avoiding the question.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Enda has left the building :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    Jayob10 wrote: »
    people need to learn that this is all nonsense, debating and the like. We have gone all American looking for a believeable leader. I don't give a sh*te if our leader is a good debater and looks the part etc.....

    put it in context, Bertie would wipe the floor with all these lads in a debate and we certainly wouldn't want him again.

    This is entertainment, no substance to it WHATSOEVER

    Eh, it's not that entertaining.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 31 lilbelter


    Enda is very quiet

    Is he still alive

    Can we ask him was it cold in the ground this morning and to say hello to Elvis when he gets back, tell him we were all asking for him

    Are you watchin the right debate?

    He's winnin this easy...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    axer wrote: »
    Its a good idea to keep hammering it in. Enda doesnt seem as out of control like the others.

    No, he seems out to lunch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    Adams is like a child at school wit his hand in the air trying to get Kenny's attention....Pick me pick me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    Adams should keep hammering about TD cuts as it is a popular move and nobody can challenge him on it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭Banjaxed82


    If a red tie is to project confidence....what does the blue tie say about Gormley?....Seriously


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,417 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Yes, Gerry: red cents, toxic banks...blah blah...

    Enda, you aint suffering.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    In before "Get Ireland Working".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    No, he seems out to lunch.
    It makes sense to play it safe like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    pjmn wrote: »
    I’ve no political affiliation, but I’d rate them so far based on their contributions (which I’d admit aren’t awe inspiring from any of them) as follows…
    1. Enda
    2. Míchéal
    3. Gerry
    4. John
    5. Eamon

    I think Gormley is doing better than that and Adams worse and would probably swap their positions. Adams is taking serious advantage of the fact that he won't get a sniff of forming a Government and isn't bothering to actually work within realistic measures. When one party is telling you that every other party is subscribing to something they would never do it's probably because the other parties have a chance of Government and need to be realistic with their promises.


  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭Mike Strutter


    Martin shouldnt be able to answer this

    Not like he'll be in power


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭pjmn


    Jayob10 wrote: »
    people need to learn that this is all nonsense, debating and the like. We have gone all American looking for a believeable leader. I don't give a sh*te if our leader is a good debater and looks the part etc.....

    put it in context, Bertie would wipe the floor with all these lads in a debate and we certainly wouldn't want him again.

    This is entertainment, no substance to it WHATSOEVER


    ... which I why I said their contributions weren't awe inspiring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭InReality


    enda good answer on cuts , gilmore not doing the job imho.


  • Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭tennessee time


    i want obama, oh wait hes gonna finish his term with a lower approval rating that george bush jnr, maybe not...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭zig


    Eh, it's not that entertaining.
    im getting a bit of a laugh out of it tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,410 ✭✭✭sparkling sea


    I have to say I am really surprised at how well John Gormley is doing in the debate - I might rethink voting Green - and this is really shocking me.

    Gerry Adams is clueless - those who earn most should pay most - they already do Gerry.

    Enda not doing too badly at all - much more assertive then I expected.

    Micheal Martin, he is definitely not as slick as he was last week.

    Eamonn Eamonn Eamonn I always thought you were a good debater - whats happening?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    Why cant they just answer the fcuking questions honestly and openly :mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,787 ✭✭✭Jayob10


    be hilarious if some lad from dominos appeared out on the stage with a pizza for enda and said "double pepporoni for Mr.Kenny, you ordered it for 9.35pm, sorry I'm late" :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭deelite


    How many questions have actually been put to them - I have counted 3 - and still not a straight answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    zig wrote: »
    im getting a bit of a laugh out of it tbh

    I actually think Inda is stoned !!! :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    Well that's a good point!


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