Galway GAA discussion thread

Robson99

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Funny how people are generally saying he was cleaned by Connors. Watched the game back yesterday and he was directly accountable for 4 scores, the superb one he scored, won a tap over free and assisted two. Thought he had a grand final and is very unlucky not to be in the discussion.

On the Canning discussion, you can spin it both ways, that he's held to too high a standard, or that he gets it on reputation. I'd be a massive fan but would be inclined to think the latter tbh. Given his body of work over the year, i'd find it very hard to argue his case over say Conor Cooney, who's sensational scores in the final are being overlooked, solid game v Tipp, excellent v Wexford and lively the first two. And even he's probably behind Whelan. Canning's excellence has been understated on many occasions but I do think a few outshone him this year

Cannings conversion rate from strikes at the post was exceptional in the final. And having watched the game again a couple of times no player worked harder than him for the 70mins. POTY without doubt imo

grbear

Only saw the result so don't know the story of the match but Mountbellew-Moylough gave Monivea-Abbey some paddlin today.

threeball

grbear wrote: »

Only saw the result so don't know the story of the match but Mountbellew-Moylough gave Monivea-Abbey some paddlin today.

Mountbellew were impressive but monivea were poor.

Corofin were shockingly poor and should have been beaten by annaghdown. If Comer was at the races it would have been an easy win but he was no more than a passenger. Had to have been carrying an illness or bad injury as he barely ran at all and when he did he was bunched afterwards.
If the management were worth a damn they would have either taken him off or put him ff and told not to budge unless the ball fell on him.

Going by today's games we could finally be looking at new champions in Galway which is badly needed as Corofins dominance is killing the game in Galway.

MfMan

threeball wrote: »

Mountbellew were impressive but monivea were poor.

Corofin were shockingly poor and should have been beaten by annaghdown. If Comer was at the races it would have been an easy win but he was no more than a passenger. Had to have been carrying an illness or bad injury as he barely ran at all and when he did he was bunched afterwards.
If the management were worth a damn they would have either taken him off or put him ff and told not to budge unless the ball fell on him.

Going by today's games we could finally be looking at new champions in Galway which is badly needed as Corofins dominance is killing the game in Galway.

M/A probably better than they looked but it was a big ask to step up from Intermediate and compete at that level. M/M ran into a serious vein of form in the second half. Evergreen Joe Bergin excellent for the winners, Mike Daly opened up more when the game was won. M/M very fluid and mobile and have a good scoring potential if they can avoid fonging wides a bit.

Corofin won from memory. They can thank Justin Burke, hobbling at the end, who kicked 3 good points off the bench. Sadly for him, Gary Sice looks finished at this level. Hard to know about Damien Comer; doing too much weights and not concentrating on skill-work, of which he needs a lot. I just have my doubts he'll ever be as good as we hope for him; the aforementioned Daly, for all his drawbacks, could be more important in the long run. Comer should have seen black too for his pull-down on Lundy. Fitzie still a better fullback than anything else available to Kevin Walsh.

When/where is the final?

h2005

ClanofLams wrote: »

People hold Canning to far higher standards than other, even if only subconsciously. He had a very good league, was man of the match v Dublin, solid if cruising through the next two games.

Poor half against Tipperary but when the pressure was on, he stepped up, five brilliant points getting Galway over the line. 9 points in the final, including a couple from play, a majestic sideline (that is now taken for granted with Canning) and at least one free from inside his own half, didn't miss a placed ball in the final as far as I can recall.

If Canning had been ruled out for the season with injury and Jason Flynn, for example, had the same season, not alone would he win hurler of the year, it would be a coronation. He also would have got man of the match in the semi and been nominated in the final.

Pity I could only like this once! Well said!

jr86

Corofin were appalling by all accounts

That said id be still amazed to see them lose the final. Annaghdown have been incredibly sticky and well organised all year. That was the scare corofin probably needed

No other team in the county could bring on a player of the quality of Justin Burke and that was the difference

They have definitely been drawn more into the pack though

Happyilylost

Final is fixed for the 15th. Hard to make much of either game. Mountbellew were decent in the first game but it's hard to judge anything with how poor Monivea/Abbey were. Shane Moran at full but looked decent, John Daly at 6 was very good. Bergin and Cathal Kenny ran midfield. While Mike Daly, Barry McHugh and Finnerty when he came on were good as would be expected.

Second game was dire. Annaghdown had little belief they could win. Fitzgerald was super. Along with Molloy Liam Silke and match winner Justin Burke. Kerin was excellent. Didn't give Ian Burke a sniff. Duggan was impressive around the middle. Other than that other big players were poor. Comer started with a great point to open the scoring didn't little else. Frankie Burke backed himself too often from poor positions. Young Ryan Forde turned over a lot of ball. All I can hope is M/M play the final with the belief they can win. Psychologically Corofin have some teams beaten before the ball is thrown in.

threeball

MfMan wrote: »

M/A probably better than they looked but it was a big ask to step up from Intermediate and compete at that level. M/M ran into a serious vein of form in the second half. Evergreen Joe Bergin excellent for the winners, Mike Daly opened up more when the game was won. M/M very fluid and mobile and have a good scoring potential if they can avoid fonging wides a bit.

Corofin won from memory. They can thank Justin Burke, hobbling at the end, who kicked 3 good points off the bench. Sadly for him, Gary Sice looks finished at this level. Hard to know about Damien Comer; doing too much weights and not concentrating on skill-work, of which he needs a lot. I just have my doubts he'll ever be as good as we hope for him; the aforementioned Daly, for all his drawbacks, could be more important in the long run. Comer should have seen black too for his pull-down on Lundy. Fitzie still a better fullback than anything else available to Kevin Walsh.

When/where is the final?

It wasn't weights that had him doubled over and blowing hard after 3 mins of action.

I agree that we could already have seen the best of him as he's kind of all or nothing in every aspect of the game which means he gives but takes a lot of punishment. If he keeps playing the same style he'll be done by 27.

I'd disagree on the Lundy pulldown. Didn't even think it was a foul. Completely dislodged the ball in the tackle. Can't penalise a lad for his strength.

Corofin will have to go from 2nd to 5th gear to have any chance in the final.

threeball

Happyilylost wrote: »

Final is fixed for the 15th. Hard to make much of either game. Mountbellew were decent in the first game but it's hard to judge anything with how poor Monivea/Abbey were. Shane Moran at full but looked decent, John Daly at 6 was very good. Bergin and Cathal Kenny ran midfield. While Mike Daly, Barry McHugh and Finnerty when he came on were good as would be expected.

Second game was dire. Annaghdown had little belief they could win. Fitzgerald was super. Along with Molloy Liam Silke and match winner Justin Burke. Kerin was excellent. Didn't give Ian Burke a sniff. Duggan was impressive around the middle. Other than that other big players were poor. Comer started with a great point to open the scoring didn't little else. Frankie Burke backed himself too often from poor positions. Young Ryan Forde turned over a lot of ball. All I can hope is M/M play the final with the belief they can win. Psychologically Corofin have some teams beaten before the ball is thrown in.

Corofins pick is just too large at this stage. They dwarf every other club in terms of playing numbers and catchment. Its getting difficult to get 15 lads from other clubs to give a solid commitment as they know the chances of winning a county title is minimal with the behemoth that is corofin looming every year.

Hopefully mountbellew can put them to the sword this year but they are unusual in that they have an exceptional group coming together at this time with numerous county standard players in their ranks.

jr86

threeball wrote: »

Corofins pick is just too large at this stage. They dwarf every other club in terms of playing numbers and catchment. Its getting difficult to get 15 lads from other clubs to give a solid commitment as they know the chances of winning a county title is minimal with the behemoth that is corofin looming every year.

Hopefully mountbellew can put them to the sword this year but they are unusual in that they have an exceptional group coming together at this time with numerous county standard players in their ranks.

Always felt belclare and corofin should be separate teams

threeball

jr86 wrote: »

Always felt belclare and corofin should be separate teams

Yes or at a very minimum sylane should be part of kilconly. There's more houses in belclare than in kilconly and kilbannon combined.
Any club that covers from Tuam to claregalway and from caherlistrane to abbeyknockmoy is just too big. Not to mention its a major commuter area for the city with the n17 running right through the heart of it.

TCDStudent1

MfMan wrote: »

M/A probably better than they looked but it was a big ask to step up from Intermediate and compete at that level. M/M ran into a serious vein of form in the second half. Evergreen Joe Bergin excellent for the winners, Mike Daly opened up more when the game was won. M/M very fluid and mobile and have a good scoring potential if they can avoid fonging wides a bit.

Corofin won from memory. They can thank Justin Burke, hobbling at the end, who kicked 3 good points off the bench. Sadly for him, Gary Sice looks finished at this level. Hard to know about Damien Comer; doing too much weights and not concentrating on skill-work, of which he needs a lot. I just have my doubts he'll ever be as good as we hope for him; the aforementioned Daly, for all his drawbacks, could be more important in the long run. Comer should have seen black too for his pull-down on Lundy. Fitzie still a better fullback than anything else available to Kevin Walsh.

When/where is the final?

15th and I guess tuam. Can't see how they would put a Mountbellew Corofin match in Pearse - there would be uproar!

djPSB

Maybe the fact that Corofin had so many involved with the Galway panel this year has left them burnt out. Would expect a few changes the next day and Daithi Burke to come in at midfield.

elefant

Deleted User wrote: »

Its an utterly stupid rule devoid of common sense tbh. Made by absolute pillocks who i would say never played the game at any level. The chap probably went over there for work reasons and returned to represent his parish.

This 'rule' needs to be scrapped as soon as possible or at least looked at. Turloughmore were at absolutely no advantage by playing this lad whatsoever unless he somehow gained superpowers in 'Murica.

Worse, he hadn't even left to the US yet when the match was played.
I'm guessing the sanction came through a couple of days sooner than was expected.

Utopia Parkway

Intermediate football semi-finals next weekend

Aran Islands v Williamstown
Kilkerrin/Clonberne v Claregalway

djPSB

The draw for the preliminary quarter finals of the Galway senior hurling championship was made last night:

Turloughmore or Portumna v Castlegar

St Thomas v Killimordaly

Tommy Larkins v Clarenbridge

Cappataggle v Kilnadeema Leitrim

No dates have been confirmed yet for the games until a decision is made by the DRA on the Turloughmore v Portumna saga. Craughwell, Gort, Sarsfields and Liam Mellows are already through to the quarter finals.

CloughCasey1

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Intermediate football semi-finals next weekend

Aran Islands v Williamstown
Kilkerrin/Clonberne v Claregalway

K/C and Aran islands to win

MfMan

Wins for Eyrecourt and Kiltormer in the Intermediate c'ship, while Abbeyknockmoy relegate Carnmore by 0-17 to 0-11.

Utopia Parkway

Aran Islands 0-12 Williamstown 0-12

Replay required.

Interesting to see there was no posts on the Special Congress which effected Galway more than most.

Championship games are returning to Pearse in 2018.
Thoughts of Galway and KK on a sunny day will rival the Galway/Mayo match days.

U21s finally have a home in the Leinster champ and the minors will get a minimum of two games though I think they're still being shafted there as the team's joining them will already have had a life lost.
In theory though they get a "second chance" as you'd only have to win one game in most scenarios to be one of the two.

The only worry with the senior set up is that while a Munster team has the prospect to fall should Kerry win the T2, they still have a play off to save themselves.
Leinster is straight relegation and that's all well and good while Offaly are poor, but if they suddenly got to a punchers chance of winningn games there's the slight chance we could end up out of the Liam one year(miniscule I know).

TCDStudent1

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Interesting to see there was no posts on the Special Congress which effected Galway more than most.

Championship games are returning to Pearse in 2018.
Thoughts of Galway and KK on a sunny day will rival the Galway/Mayo match days.

U21s finally have a home in the Leinster champ and the minors will get a minimum of two games though I think they're still being shafted there as the team's joining them will already have had a life lost.
In theory though they get a "second chance" as you'd only have to win one game in most scenarios to be one of the two.

The only worry with the senior set up is that while a Munster team has the prospect to fall should Kerry win the T2, they still have a play off to save themselves.
Leinster is straight relegation and that's all well and good while Offaly are poor, but if they suddenly got to a punchers chance of winningn games there's the slight chance we could end up out of the Liam one year(miniscule I know).

100% shafted in the minor championship. Again, Galway are discriminated against. This time even more so, as Ulster counties are allowed into the minor championship at provincial level. Crazy.

I really dont care about hurling home matches. It is unfair that Galway were denied the opportunity to have home games. But personally, I feel that Tullamore is a far better venue for a hurling game than Pearse. It is probably just as accessible from the south of the county as well.

TCDStudent1

Anybody know when dates for next years league fixtures will be released?

mountgomery burns

Whats the story with people talking abot minor/u21 championships? Are both not being replace next year?

mickmackey1

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Whats the story with people talking abot minor/u21 championships? Are both not being replace next year?

Well the u-18 is being replaced by u-17 but will still be called minor. Only the U-21 football is being replaced, by u-20.

Borders no.2

I like the new format. I think hurling needed it really. There needs to be more hurling games during the summer. There's an awful lot of high end hurling played in February and March when pitches are poor.

I think Munster is going to be especially cut-throat and there should be some great crowds and matches before the Top 2 are decided there.

4 games gives everyone a fair chance to make their mark on the championship. I think it will really put the league back to where it stood maybe 10-15 years ago in terms of importance though and when it comes to the knockout stages I can't see the Munster teams in particular being anyway pushed about trying to win it.

Also the balance needs to be struck with club games but I think this is a major chance to revamp the calendar and force counties to put a proper plan in place for their club players.

I think there'll be a lot more excitement about this development than the Super 8s in football which is merely papering over the cracks of a broken championship.

Under 21s is good news. We badly needed that. They fudged the u17 issue for the moment which is very disappointing.

fearruanua

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Anybody know when dates for next years league fixtures will be released?

Last year it was around the 20th of november.

Hulk Hands

New kickout rules have to be a positive for the footballers. Our kickout strategy has probably been bottom 10 out of all teams, both our's and dealing with the oppositions. If the GAA are taking the tactics out of it slightly and forcing more long ones, we've slightly more chance of breaking even out there at least

Hulk Hands

Hulk Hands wrote: »

New kickout rules have to be a positive for the footballers. Our kickout strategy has probably been bottom 10 out of all teams, both our's and dealing with the oppositions. If the GAA are taking the tactics out of it slightly and forcing more long ones, we've slightly more chance of breaking even out there at least

My thoughts exactly.

However the likes of Dublin rarely kick it to the corners and will still generally kick it into a runners path on the wings.

Mayo used that corner kick more, but again options beyond the line will open up by just getting the ball placed quickly which both do.

But no doubt this at least helps us 15% against those two teams.

I still think KW needs to go though.

How he watches the business end and picks up nothing in terms of kick outs and build up play is beyond me.

If Mayo are that close to Dublin we must at least have the raw materials to push on further and he's not the one to do that based on the past three years.

Mr Velo

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Hulk Hands wrote: »

New kickout rules have to be a positive for the footballers. Our kickout strategy has probably been bottom 10 out of all teams, both our's and dealing with the oppositions. If the GAA are taking the tactics out of it slightly and forcing more long ones, we've slightly more chance of breaking even out there at least

My thoughts exactly.

However the likes of Dublin rarely kick it to the corners and will still generally kick it into a runners path on the wings.

Mayo used that corner kick more, but again options beyond the line will open up by just getting the ball placed quickly which both do.

But no doubt this at least helps us 15% against those two teams.

I still think KW needs to go though.

How he watches the business end and picks up nothing in terms of kick outs and build up play is beyond me.

If Mayo are that close to Dublin we must at least have the raw materials to push on further and he's not the one to do that based on the past three years.

I think unfortunately we're going to have another season of KW.

djPSB

Mr Velo wrote: »

I think unfortunately we're going to have another season of KW.

KW did deliver a Connacht title, a division two title and beaten Mayo two years in a row.

Yes maybe some mistakes made but a little respect please.

aidan24326

Mr Velo wrote: »

I think unfortunately we're going to have another season of KW.

Pretty sure he has been officially ratified for another year at least so we're stuck with him now for good or bad.

djPSB wrote: »

KW did deliver a Connacht title, a division two title and beaten Mayo two years in a row.

Yes maybe some mistakes made but a little respect please.

Beating a below-par Mayo team is well and good but it doesn't excuse the alarming flops in the Tipp and Roscommon games, or the pathetic capitulation to an ordinary Kerry team.

Not saying all of it is KW's fault and the players have to be questioned too, but the buck stops with the manager and there's no sign that we've made any real progress tactically. There was no gameplan against Kerry other than put 14 men in our own half and hope to keep it respectable.

spurshero

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Hulk Hands wrote: »

New kickout rules have to be a positive for the footballers. Our kickout strategy has probably been bottom 10 out of all teams, both our's and dealing with the oppositions. If the GAA are taking the tactics out of it slightly and forcing more long ones, we've slightly more chance of breaking even out there at least

My thoughts exactly.

However the likes of Dublin rarely kick it to the corners and will still generally kick it into a runners path on the wings.

Mayo used that corner kick more, but again options beyond the line will open up by just getting the ball placed quickly which both do.

But no doubt this at least helps us 15% against those two teams.

I still think KW needs to go though.

How he watches the business end and picks up nothing in terms of kick outs and build up play is beyond me.

If Mayo are that close to Dublin we must at least have the raw materials to push on further and he's not the one to do that based on the past three years.

We are light years away from either of those teams . We caught mayo on the hop last year and somehow hung on this year despite playing 50 mins with an extra man . Roscommon and Kerry both wiped the floor with us . We haven't won a championship game in croker in 17 years . What we need to do is get the basics right for a start . Hopefully this year in division one will bring us on a bit .

MfMan

spurshero wrote: »

We are light years away from either of those teams . We caught mayo on the hop last year and somehow hung on this year despite playing 50 mins with an extra man . Roscommon and Kerry both wiped the floor with us . We haven't won a championship game in croker in 17 years . What we need to do is get the basics right for a start . Hopefully this year in division one will bring us on a bit .

It should certainly expose our players to a consistently-higher level of opponent with the attendant requirement of improvement to compete with them. Especially after this year however, I've lost a lot of faith in the team; midfield (Conroy/Flynn/FOC) has only ever been so good and has been shown up the last 2 years in CP as not being up to the task. Defence is a disaster and has been for pretty much of KW's tenure. The goalkeeping fiasco this year exacerbated things even more; it would be unheard of for a team to change keepers prior to a big c'ship clash at HQ.

(;-))

Diabhal Beag

I have huge time for Kevin, Brian and the backroom staff but I felt like the reappointment is an indication they're happy where we are rather than him winning a hotly contested race for báinisteoir.

We've not really made clear progress since Mulholland left imo. We were always there or thereabouts in the League but Mayo didn't have the motivation in Connacht for the last couple of years they had going for the 5 in a row. The forwards seem to have plateaued, we don't have a consistent midfield and defensively we're terrible. An awful lot of hope is being placed on Sean Andy O'Conghaile and Sean Mulkerrin's shoulders before they've even played for the seniors.

My big worry with Galway football is that we're too comfortable being content with a poor showing in a quarter final at Croker after the 10 year period of losing to average teams in qualifiers like Wexford, Westmeath and Meath. It's not so much that the Tipp and Rossie hammerings don't sting but we celebrate the Mayo wins as far higher value than they were. 14 man Mayo in 1st gear nearly had us but for two beautiful bottles from Evan Regan.

Positivity is great but the undeserved hype eats this particular set of players up and instead of getting to semi finals they end up content with pats on the back from lads in Taaffes while our neighbours getting to finals.

TCDStudent1

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

I have huge time for Kevin, Brian and the backroom staff but I felt like the reappointment is an indication they're happy where we are rather than him winning a hotly contested race for báinisteoir.

We've not really made clear progress since Mulholland left imo. We were always there or thereabouts in the League but Mayo didn't have the motivation in Connacht for the last couple of years they had going for the 5 in a row. The forwards seem to have plateaued, we don't have a consistent midfield and defensively we're terrible. An awful lot of hope is being placed on Sean Andy O'Conghaile and Sean Mulkerrin's shoulders before they've even played for the seniors.

My big worry with Galway football is that we're too comfortable being content with a poor showing in a quarter final at Croker after the 10 year period of losing to average teams in qualifiers like Wexford, Westmeath and Meath. It's not so much that the Tipp and Rossie hammerings don't sting but we celebrate the Mayo wins as far higher value than they were. 14 man Mayo in 1st gear nearly had us but for two beautiful bottles from Evan Regan.

Positivity is great but the undeserved hype eats this particular set of players up and instead of getting to semi finals they end up content with pats on the back from lads in Taaffes while our neighbours getting to finals.

Mayo had to be extremely motivated for the Galway match in Salthill. After what happened in 2016, they just had to be. They were not as good as they were come September - Aidan O'Shea & Colm Boyle were on the bench that day and went on to have very good seasons. If I remember correctly, they started a HF line of Boland, O'Connor, Coen. So it wasnt a great Mayo team. But I think it is unfair to Galway (& Mayo) to say Mayo were not motivated for that match.

I like to see lads performing at club level getting an opportunity at county level. One of the worrying things about our club championship is that the top performers seem to be older lads. For example, Joe Bergin & Kieran Fitzgerald are regularly MOTM for their clubs. Why aren't the inter county players standing out ahead of lads well into their 30's? From the club matches I have seen this year, the players of interest (who are not on the Galway panel) to me would be: Joseph Donnellan (Mountbellew), Anthony Pender, Ciaran Duggan (Annaghdown), William Finnerty (Salthill), Jason Leonard, Kieran Molloy (Corofin). I dont know what age some of these guys are. But going purely on club form, I think they are worth looking at if they are interested. Barry McHugh emerged from last years club championship and had a very good league. He faded towards the end of the league and wasnt making the 26 by the end of the championship. But it was still a reasonable year for a debut season. He is playing well again this year, so maybe that year will stand to him and he can improve. I still think he has something to offer at inter county level (worth sticking with for another year anyway).

I havent seen Sean Andy O'Ceallaigh play club this year but based on his U21 form, I'd like to see him given a run in the FBD and league. Same for Peter Cooke who badly needs a run of games to step up to this level.

Robson99

We have two major problems
Management are poor and Players are probably even worse
I dont think it matters much who is in charge of us. We are barely a top 10 team and are a mile of the top table

threeball

Looking at the standard of club football in the county we're in serious bother. It's shocking how poor even the top teams are and the county players don't stand out one bit. In most cases they might not even be in the top 4/5 players on the pitch.

djPSB

threeball wrote: »

Looking at the standard of club football in the county we're in serious bother. It's shocking how poor even the top teams are and the county players don't stand out one bit. In most cases they might not even be in the top 4/5 players on the pitch.

It's a lot better than it was a few years ago. The teams at the bottom of senior are very very poor though. Number of senior clubs needs to be reduced by 4 or 5.

jr86

djPSB wrote: »

It's a lot better than it was a few years ago.

Is it? Outside of corofin, mountbellew are decent, everyone else is bang average at the very most.

threeball

djPSB wrote: »

It's a lot better than it was a few years ago. The teams at the bottom of senior are very very poor though. Number of senior clubs needs to be reduced by 4 or 5.

How does reducing the number of senior clubs help anyone. We have one dominant club, that disincentivises players from other clubs who see no possibility of winning a county title. Now let's take that possibility away from all players that do turn out bar 5 big clubs.

TCDStudent1

jr86 wrote: »

Is it? Outside of corofin, mountbellew are decent, everyone else is bang average at the very most.

I'd consider Corofin fairly average at the moment too. They are not the force they were and can't see them going far if they donwin Galway. Annaghdown should have beaten them, there's very little between Corofin, Mountbellew, annaghdown, Salthill at the moment. Then there is a gap to the next bunch of teams.

They need to reduce the senior clubs down to 16. They should implement the same system as Mayo then for championship- 4 groups of 4.

jr86

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

I'd consider Corofin fairly average at the moment too. They are not the force they were and can't see them going far if they donwin Galway. Annaghdown should have beaten them, there's very little between Corofin, Mountbellew, annaghdown, Salthill at the moment. Then there is a gap to the next bunch of teams.

They need to reduce the senior clubs down to 16. They should implement the same system as Mayo then for championship- 4 groups of 4.

Annaghdown were well organised under Flynn but I'd doubt many would bat an eyelid if they ended up in a relegation playoff next year

You always have teams that have a good year and then fade

Salthill were being bet out the door by Corofin, with a late surge putting respectability on the scoreboard. Besides that they were hammered the last few times they played them

Corofin -- MB ---Salthill/K

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the rest

I think 20 is fine if they do it right. 16 teams means you have a lot of "First teams" playing Junior or else a very clogged up intermediate Championship.

I like in the hurling how the Junior Championship is now mainly second teams of senior clubs. I think all top club players should be playing at least intermediate level

djPSB

jr86 wrote: »

Annaghdown were well organised under Flynn but I'd doubt many would bat an eyelid if they ended up in a relegation playoff next year

You always have teams that have a good year and then fade

Salthill were being bet out the door by Corofin, with a late surge putting respectability on the scoreboard. Besides that they were hammered the last few times they played them

Corofin -- MB ---Salthill/K

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the rest

I think 20 is fine if they do it right. 16 teams means you have a lot of "First teams" playing Junior or else a very clogged up intermediate Championship.

I like in the hurling how the Junior Championship is now mainly second teams of senior clubs. I think all top club players should be playing at least intermediate level

Clubs like Killererin, Kilconly, Leitir Mor, Caltra, Barna are not Senior standard clubs and are getting nothing out of being there. They'd be better of in intermediate competing in the latter stages. It's a lot easier keep lads interested than lads knowing they're going to be in a relegation fight every year. These clubs would be crucified if they went to play in a high standard club championship like Kerry.

Some of the clubs mentioned above are only winning one game a year to survive out of a potential 8 games.

If we had 16 teams in Senior, it would be a lot more competitive with each team having to be on their game to survive. Right now, you have to be absolutely terrible to go down with most clubs in cruise control until they're in danger. And most clubs have just accepted that they're not going to win Senior.

I said

Any gallery on the Portumna/Turloghmore saga

Diabhal Beag

Hanbury is a good forward. Drove Rahoon on bigtime today.

Donal55

Humdinger of a game in Pearse stadium between Williamstown and Arann in an intermediate replay.
Arann scoring a last minute goal to bring it to extra time only for Williamstown to win it with a last minute free.

Ath trasna

jr86 wrote: »

Annaghdown were well organised under Flynn but I'd doubt many would bat an eyelid if they ended up in a relegation playoff next year

You always have teams that have a good year and then fade

Salthill were being bet out the door by Corofin, with a late surge putting respectability on the scoreboard. Besides that they were hammered the last few times they played them

Corofin -- MB ---Salthill/K

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the rest

I think 20 is fine if they do it right. 16 teams means you have a lot of "First teams" playing Junior or else a very clogged up intermediate Championship.

I like in the hurling how the Junior Championship is now mainly second teams of senior clubs. I think all top club players should be playing at least intermediate level

I think they should look at the system that's in place in Cork (and possibly elsewhere) where you have Senior, Premier Intermediate, Intermediate and then the Junior levels. Maybe have 16 teams at each level with a winner goes up and 1 comes down through relegation.

fearruanua

DRA rule against turloughmore. Senior hurling championship continues with portumna in it this weekend.

Rumpy Pumpy

fearruanua wrote: »

DRA rule against turloughmore. Senior hurling championship continues with portumna in it this weekend.

Seems harsh, but at least it’s a decision.

danganabu

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

Seems harsh, but at least it’s a decision.

Don't Turloughmore have form here or am I mistaken the with someone else?