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Galway GAA discussion thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    threeball wrote: »
    Definitely Divilly but I think Walsh deserves another year. He'll need to change up the defensive structure as you can't rely on counter attacking to turn over every team. It served a purpose this year in boosting the confidence of a young side new to division one. It's time to evolve the attacking side now.

    Another year of s&c will really stand to them too. You need 3 or 4yrs to reach your peak. If he only develops the attacking side and reaches another semi next year he'll have done well and will be remembered fondly as both a player and a manager.

    I'd probably give him another year too. While there are definitely issues around him, he still got a fairly limited group of players to an all ireland semi.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭RobbieRuns


    Personally I would get rid of Walsh.
    The Monaghan game was the one for me that decided that. Whatever about tactics, when you are playing at home, in your own back yard, knowing that you need to win....... it is simply up to the coach to fire them up and they were shocking. I can take defeat, but heart and spirit needs to be shown. Clare had it in defeat in the Hurling.
    The game at home to qualify to play Tyrone/Donegal was crucial and it has set me back on my thoughts going forward. The performance v Monaghan was just not good enough. Yes, we have beaten Mayo (but so did Kildare), yes, we have had a good league campaign but this team is better than we are playing. It was not against the Dubs that made my mind up on that it was the previous week in Pearse Stadium.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    spurshero wrote: »
    People that are calling for Kevin Walsh to go should remember 5 years ago Mayo beat us 17 points in pears stadium when mulholland was in charge . We have beaten Mayo in last 3 championship meetings under
    Walsh . He is entitled to at least one more year . Will need to find at least 3 more players though.

    There's more than enough coming through the pipeline. Besides Kerry I think we're one of the most priveliged counties in that regard. I would certainly keep Walsh on, but what worries me was his hesitancy to commit to his future after the game. Next year is by no means make or break, this team won't realistically reach its peak for 3 years when the trio up front are leading at 28, Daly SAC and Duggan are established players and we've brought through some of the talented youngsters. Not sure we want a situation where one poor semi final again next year leads to upheaval. Hopefully they get a long term commitment from Walsh or else give a newcomer the time to turn this side into a true contender


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    There's more than enough coming through the pipeline. Besides Kerry I think we're one of the most priveliged counties in that regard. I would certainly keep Walsh on, but what worries me was his hesitancy to commit to his future after the game. Next year is by no means make or break, this team won't realistically reach its peak for 3 years when the trio up front are leading at 28, Daly SAC and Duggan are established players and we've brought through some of the talented youngsters. Not sure we want a situation where one poor semi final again next year leads to upheaval. Hopefully they get a long term commitment from Walsh or else give a newcomer the time to turn this side into a true contender

    Wouldn't keep Walsh on, rate of progress far too slow, and tactically poor. In 3 years time, Duggan will be 30!:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 304 ✭✭rubbledoubledo


    I think the most baffling thing about the Galway system of play is that, despite having 10-11 players back, few if any of them seem to know what they're meant to be doing. They skirt around players and jog somewhere near them without picking them up. Marking space, in my opinion, is a waste of time if all that dominates is confusion.

    Could not agree with you more.You summed it up nicely there
    So many players back and Dublin still getting ball with ease


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    Could not agree with you more.You summed it up nicely there
    So many players back and Dublin still getting ball with ease




    When Galway lose, Kevin Walsh gets all the blame for the defensive system.

    When Galway win, Paddy Tally gets all the credit for the defensive system.



    Hardly seems fair!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,384 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    I think you really have to push up on Dublin a lot more and be aggressive in your tackling to have any chance against them. Galway were back in their defensive shell but Dublin will just be patient, use the width of the pitch and eventually someone will sneak into a pocket of space and they'll find them and a score will come from it. Galway weren't really putting any pressure on the ball carrier further up the field. Just funneling back filling space but Dublin are too good. They will hold onto the ball and wait for an opening. You really have to engage them further up the field but obviously this might leave gaps at the back but you have to take that chance.

    By the way Dublin were getting plenty of players back behind the ball too but Galway were so laboured getting the ball forward. Surely they could have kicked it longer and earlier a bit more often because slowly hand passing the ball into midfield and then laterally just gives Dublin time to get back and set in defence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    In my opinion Galway were found out by both Dublin and Monaghan.


  • Registered Users Posts: 968 ✭✭✭conor05


    Lads let it go. There is no All Ireland in this Galway football team. Dublin and a few others are ahead of them.

    Since 2010 Galway are now contesting their 4th All Ireland hurling final, hurling is where it’s at for Galway.

    Some achievement to be able to have a football team make a semi final level tho.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭spurshero


    In my opinion Galway were found out by both Dublin and Monaghan.

    Well there’s no doubt Dublin we’re a better team . Then again there a better team then everybody else too. Hard to pass judgement on Monaghan game as it wasn’t a must win for one and it was for the other and it showed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭spurshero


    conor05 wrote: »
    Lads let it go. There is no All Ireland in this Galway football team. Dublin and a few others are ahead of them.

    Since 2010 Galway are now contesting their 4th All Ireland hurling final, hurling is where it’s at for Galway.

    Some achievement to be able to have a football team make a semi final level tho.

    Good lad . I say you are a right barrell of laughs .


  • Registered Users Posts: 957 ✭✭✭BloodyBill


    Amprodude wrote: »
    the more i think about this game the more I believe Galway will dismantle Limerick rather comfortably. I think if the Galway unit can get going they are going to be too much for Limerick. Limerick i believe can be turned inside out by that Galway forward line. Galway to retain Liam and win it with a bit to spare.

    Well there's a doozy. It's possible I guess.. Whelan and Canning at al are some operators. It could be a right tanking for the Shannonsiders. I doubt it though.
    Going on form and the Galway scoring rate it will take everything and abit more for Galway to retain Sam. Limerick have the better squad and some Galway players can't last 50mins not talk about 70.


  • Registered Users Posts: 957 ✭✭✭BloodyBill


    Liam not Sam....mixed up Republicans


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭spurshero


    BloodyBill wrote: »
    Well there's a doozy. It's possible I guess.. Whelan and Canning at al are some operators. It could be a right tanking for the Shannonsiders. I doubt it though.
    Going on form and the Galway scoring rate it will take everything and abit more for Galway to retain Sam. Limerick have the better squad and some Galway players can't last 50mins not talk about 70.

    Don’t think that lad that posted all that crap is a galway supporter . Any real galwegian knows Sunday is gonna be a mammoth battle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    MfMan wrote: »
    Wouldn't keep Walsh on, rate of progress far too slow, and tactically poor. In 3 years time, Duggan will be 30!:)

    Typo, meant Cooke obviously. Although he's been a tad disappointing this year but is still a child in midfielder terms and build


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Sycamore Tree


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    There's more than enough coming through the pipeline. Besides Kerry I think we're one of the most priveliged counties in that regard. I would certainly keep Walsh on, but what worries me was his hesitancy to commit to his future after the game. Next year is by no means make or break, this team won't realistically reach its peak for 3 years when the trio up front are leading at 28, Daly SAC and Duggan are established players and we've brought through some of the talented youngsters. Not sure we want a situation where one poor semi final again next year leads to upheaval. Hopefully they get a long term commitment from Walsh or else give a newcomer the time to turn this side into a true contender

    28?

    Sure Donnellan, Joyce and Savage were only 20 or 21 when they won in 1998.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    conor05 wrote: »
    Lads let it go. There is no All Ireland in this Galway football team. Dublin and a few others are ahead of them.

    Since 2010 Galway are now contesting their 4th All Ireland hurling final, hurling is where it’s at for Galway.

    Some achievement to be able to have a football team make a semi final level tho.

    So we'll give up the football? Third most successful football county and the county's most successful sports side historically by a distance. There's a lot of talent underage and the team is one of the youngest around. Will be tough to bridge the gap to Dublin but no reason they can't be winning Connacht and challenging at the latter stages every year.

    A few have mentioned the pathetic support. So disheartening. People content to sit on their holes at home and give out online. I hope people like that don't get near a Hurling final ticket next week. There's loads of hurling only people which I can understand if don't accept but plenty of the football crowd aren't bothering these days either. Have no trouble following the success however


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


    spurshero wrote: »
    Don’t think that lad that posted all that crap is a galway supporter . Any real galwegian knows Sunday is gonna be a mammoth battle

    That poster amprodude has been trolling on Clare, Kerry, Monaghan and now Galway page the last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    28?

    Sure Donnellan, Joyce and Savage were only 20 or 21 when they won in 1998.

    What does that have to do with anything? I'm making the point that they'll still be leaders in their prime. We're about 5 players short of an AI contending side. There's plenty of talented defenders and one midfielder coming through that can bridge that gap. Goalie is another story. But I was making the point that the real top talent in Galway will all be in their prime in a few years. This is SAC's first year remember. Daly is 22, Darcy is 20 and Mulkerrins 19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭muddle84


    Gael85 wrote: »
    spurshero wrote: »
    Don’t think that lad that posted all that crap is a galway supporter . Any real galwegian knows Sunday is gonna be a mammoth battle

    That poster amprodude has been trolling on Clare, Kerry, Monaghan and now Galway page the last week.
    Mayo page too


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭muddle84


    Gael85 wrote: »
    spurshero wrote: »
    Don’t think that lad that posted all that crap is a galway supporter . Any real galwegian knows Sunday is gonna be a mammoth battle

    That poster amprodude has been trolling on Clare, Kerry, Monaghan and now Galway page the last week.
    Mayo page too


  • Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭MattressRick


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    Typo, meant Cooke obviously. Although he's been a tad disappointing this year but is still a child in midfielder terms and build

    Is he hell a child in size. Hes 22 and built like a house. You thinking of Ian Burke??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    Is he hell a child in size. Hes 22 and built like a house. You thinking of Ian Burke??

    Cooke has nowhere near filled out his frame. Compare him to O'Currain for instance. Even Flynn who is notoriously gangly has filled out plenty more than Cooke. It's understandable, he has only had 2 years or so of S&C at senior level and nobody has filled out fully at 22.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭I says


    Roll on Sunday any word on g macs injury


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    Cooke has nowhere near filled out his frame. Compare him to O'Currain for instance. Even Flynn who is notoriously gangly has filled out plenty more than Cooke. It's understandable, he has only had 2 years or so of S&C at senior level and nobody has filled out fully at 22.

    Indo today suggests Cillian McDaid set to return home, a big boost for us next year if so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭MattressRick


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    Cooke has nowhere near filled out his frame. Compare him to O'Currain for instance. Even Flynn who is notoriously gangly has filled out plenty more than Cooke. It's understandable, he has only had 2 years or so of S&C at senior level and nobody has filled out fully at 22.

    O Curraoin has never come close to filling out his huge frame. He looks like a bag of bones compared to even Flynn. Doesn't really matter at this stage I'm sure another winter will bring them on in size.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Ray Bloody Purchase




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    MfMan wrote: »
    Indo today suggests Cillian McDaid set to return home, a big boost for us next year if so.

    Amazing news for Galway, he'll be a huge addition at a position of need. Feel bad for him, heard he was doing well but that was obviously hearsay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,384 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    Amazing news for Galway, he'll be a huge addition at a position of need. Feel bad for him, heard he was doing well but that was obviously hearsay.

    AFL clubs don't usually get rid of lads so soon. Usually let them see out their contract at the very least. Possible he just wants to come home. Big boost to Galway though as he has enormous potential as a wing-back. Very quick and well able to take his scores.


  • Registered Users Posts: 968 ✭✭✭conor05


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    Amazing news for Galway, he'll be a huge addition at a position of need. Feel bad for him, heard he was doing well but that was obviously hearsay.

    AFL clubs don't usually get rid of lads so soon. Usually let them see out their contract at the very least. Possible he just wants to come home. Big boost to Galway though as he has enormous potential as a wing-back. Very quick and well able to take his scores.

    This. Heard that from a close source to the family. He is very homesick. And that is very understandable for a lad his age on the other side of the world.
    He was making good progress by all accounts.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    That's potentially Liam Silke and McDaid back next year. Those could be two big additions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,269 ✭✭✭threeball


    That's potentially Liam Silke and McDaid back next year. Those could be two big additions.

    Massive. I'd like to see Silke at corner back next year with Kyne moving to centre back. Everything about him says centre back to me. Powerful, physical, good at carrying the ball forward, good distributor (great pass before the peno on saturday). McDaid to one wing, Heaney on the other, another year or two and Cathal Sweeney from the minor team could take that side.


  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭crusier


    threeball wrote:
    Massive. I'd like to see Silke at corner back next year with Kyne moving to centre back. Everything about him says centre back to me. Powerful, physical, good at carrying the ball forward, good distributor (great pass before the peno on saturday). McDaid to one wing, Heaney on the other, another year or two and Cathal Sweeney from the minor team could take that side.


    I was thinking the exact same, I just think it will be a bit too soon for Sweeney for a few years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭GalwayLurker


    How about Molloy? Himself and McDaid are made for the 2 wings, never thought of Kyne at CB but could be a great move.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭testtech05


    How about Molloy? Himself and McDaid are made for the 2 wings, never thought of Kyne at CB but could be a great move.

    Ditto on Kyne never thought of it. Seems to have good attributes for a CB. Always think he looks comfortable when he makes runs forward too so could be a good shout.


  • Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭GalwayLurker


    He's a bit loose for the tightness you generally get from the likes of Kerin at corner back but centre back could be interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,269 ✭✭✭threeball


    How about Molloy? Himself and McDaid are made for the 2 wings, never thought of Kyne at CB but could be a great move.

    Molloy could do a job there or Wall.
    Positives for next year are that,

    Kelly will improve and get stronger
    Same for Cooke
    Duggan and a few others will have a full year of S&C behind them
    Silke hopefully will be back
    McDaid hopefully will be back
    We'll get another 2 up from u21
    That means we'll have at least 4 decent subs we can use.

    That alone is enough to bring this team on 10-15%.
    A stronger back 6 with more emphasis on attack will make us dangerous but i'm certain that Kyne to CB has to be tried at the very least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭orl


    for any of ye coming up the night before to the hurling all ireland or for those of us in exile in Dublin, the Galway Supporters club are organising a gig in the Harcourt Hotel, Dublin 2 on the eve of the Big Day (Saturday night from 7.30). It's a tenner in and you get an entry into a raffle for tickets for THE matches the following day and lots of other prizes. Great music with the Black cat house band and a DJ afterwards. Galway Bay FM are recording from there that night too.

    It was a great night last year - there is a bar to the side for people who want to chat rather than dance.


    Gaillimh abu.


  • Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭MattressRick


    Footballers could do with a donie Buckley. Would seriously help backs go man to man. His tackling coaching brought Mayo on in leaps.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,269 ✭✭✭threeball


    Footballers could do with a donie Buckley. Would seriously help backs go man to man. His tackling coaching brought Mayo on in leaps.

    I don't know what's so difficult about tackling properly and going man to man that no one can do it without tons of coaching in the modern era.

    The game was played man on man for 100yrs or more. I coach 8yr olds that can tackle better than some inter county players. Why players can't adhere to the simple rules of the tackle is beyond me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    threeball wrote:
    That alone is enough to bring this team on 10-15%. A stronger back 6 with more emphasis on attack will make us dangerous but i'm certain that Kyne to CB has to be tried at the very least.


    Ryan Forde and Mulkerrins should be pushing hard for the 6 jersey this year too along with what has already been mentioned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭I says


    Does concannon miss the senior final after his ban was upheld from the u21 sending off?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    I says wrote:
    Does concannon miss the senior final after his ban was upheld from the u21 sending off?

    Looks like he is unless he appeals. Rule is different than I thought. If he was U21 against next year he would be allowed play on Sunday. As he's no longer U21 and Galway are out of the U21 final his suspension now moves to the senior grade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Looks like he is unless he appeals. Rule is different than I thought. If he was U21 against next year he would be allowed play on Sunday. As he's no longer U21 and Galway are out of the U21 final his suspension now moves to the senior grade.

    Tipp successfully appealed their sending off but as Concannon's looked more blatant, it might be a big ask to get him off.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    MfMan wrote:
    Tipp successfully appealed their sending off but as Concannon's looked more blatant, it might be a big ask to get him off.


    For what he did I don't see him getting off. Still thinks it's hugely unfair. From my understanding let's say it was Jack Canning that was sent off and he was part of the senior set up since he's eligible for U21 again next the game would carry to that competition and he could still play for the seniors on Sunday. Big disappointment for a lad so young.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Ompala


    MfMan wrote: »
    Tipp successfully appealed their sending off but as Concannon's looked more blatant, it might be a big ask to get him off.

    I said at the time Concannon deserved his red card and I stand by it. But for him to miss out on the senior final, given it is a separate competition, is quite unfair imo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 FirstFiveEigth


    Ompala wrote: »
    I said at the time Concannon deserved his red card and I stand by it. But for him to miss out on the senior final, given it is a separate competition, is quite unfair imo.

    I think it's perfectly fair to be honest, it's not as if it's a different sport or anything. If a rugby player is banned for their province that carries over to international games and across different club tournaments. I have some sympathy for the player as he'll miss the All-Ireland but it was a clear red, he can't have any complaints really, although I do think it's a stupid rule that it only carries over due to being his last year u21.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 SarahOH


    Chances on getting a ticket in Dub on Sunday morning?? Have always managed to get tickets through the club somehow or other over the years but having a nightmare this year!! Might chance my arm and go up to Dub anyways but don’t know if I’ll have much chance?? Any opinions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭mjp


    Always got tickets match day around drumcondra for most all Ireland's but luckily had one last year cause there were hundreds of people going around with signs from o connel st up and from talking to friends who watched match n pub up there there were very few spares around and lots had to watch it in pubs.

    Don't think there will be a massive Galway crowd there compared to last year and can see Limerick outnumbering us bigtime on sunday.Been a long year for fans with replays and footballers being in Croker 3 times already this year. Hoping that Galway fans try and look after their own first with any spare tickets they have.


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