Galway GAA discussion thread

Happyilylost · 02-09-2018 2:13pm

What the f**k was that free for! I hate the way they won't show replays in Croke Park.

Johner · 02-09-2018 2:14pm

That was a disgrace. What a cheat, really hope Galway win after that.

threeball · 02-09-2018 2:20pm

Johner wrote: »

That was a disgrace. What a cheat, really hope Galway win after that.

Another aidan o Mahoney in the making.

munster87 · 02-09-2018 2:21pm

threeball wrote: »

Another aidan o Mahoney in the making.

Ah now, he’d do well to win 5 all Ireland’s and a couple of all stars.

threeball · 02-09-2018 2:24pm

munster87 wrote: »

Ah now, he’d do well to win 5 all Ireland’s and a couple of all stars.

Disgraceful carry on. Nothing worse in sport than a cheat.

02-09-2018 2:24pm

Nobody to blame but themselves.

Had a big lead but only scored 3 points going into injury time in the second half.

Silly turnovers in defence near the end costing them points.

Would question management as well over the last two games with brain dead decisions which(that last free was always going to be driven wide the way he kicked them against Meath and it just wasted a minute of the injury time).

Utopia Parkway · 02-09-2018 2:40pm

Kicked it away really with 3 maybe 4 good goal chances squandered. I don't think Kerry had any. Maybe a half chance near the end. Got to take your chances in finals. Don't want to be too hard on very young lads though. Disappointed that the ref was conned by the amount of diving going on though. Minors shouldn't be able to fool an experienced ref so easily.

BENDYBINN · 02-09-2018 3:20pm

Galway got destroyed in midfield......ultimately the losing of the match.

Utopia Parkway · 02-09-2018 5:20pm

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Galway got destroyed in midfield......ultimately the losing of the match.

Not really. They absolutely cleaned Kerry in midfield in the first half. Kerry did better in the second.

Not taking their chances was the big problem.

threeball · 02-09-2018 6:32pm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Not really. They absolutely cleaned Kerry in midfield in the first half. Kerry did better in the second.

Not taking their chances was the big problem.

Should have been out of sight by half time but poor shot selection and goal fever put paid to that. A big lead at half time will bury most minor teams

MattressRick · 02-09-2018 8:27pm

Hard to know how Galway will set up for next year.
Dublin winning will definitely promote the incessant hand passing till a shot is on, to not cough up possession. Which will make next year's matches a total disaster.
Or just go at Dublin like Tyrone did at the start. This is risky and only necessary against Dublin, so games in connacht next year I fear could be putrid.

TCDStudent1 · 02-09-2018 9:20pm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Not really. They absolutely cleaned Kerry in midfield in the first half. Kerry did better in the second.

Not taking their chances was the big problem.

Galway won midfield in first half - Raftery in particular was superb.

Kerry won midfield in the second half, which really gave them the platform to come back.

djPSB · 02-09-2018 10:59pm

One of the subs for the minors today plays his club football in Kildare. How does that work?

threeball · 02-09-2018 11:05pm

MattressRick wrote: »

Hard to know how Galway will set up for next year.
Dublin winning will definitely promote the incessant hand passing till a shot is on, to not cough up possession. Which will make next year's matches a total disaster.
Or just go at Dublin like Tyrone did at the start. This is risky and only necessary against Dublin, so games in connacht next year I fear could be putrid.

We should have at least 3 major additions next year so that's a plus and I don't think we need as many back. If we can't defend with the 6 backs and the two midfielders dropping in front plus one or two half forwards then we're wasting our time.
I'd rather we went with at least 4 up front all the time and go at teams. We have really good footballers that other teams don't have. We still won't beat Dublin as we'll fall short in the stamina stakes as will every other team but I'd rather play football than sit back and bleed out slowly.

TCDStudent1 · 02-09-2018 11:17pm

djPSB wrote: »

One of the subs for the minors today plays his club football in Kildare. How does that work?

His Dad is from Galway and a big Galway supporter so I guess he grew up supporting Galway

djPSB · 03-09-2018 12:01am

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

His Dad is from Galway and a big Galway supporter so I guess he grew up supporting Galway

Don't think you can just choose based on that though.

Must have played club football in Galway at some stage over the years.

MfMan · 03-09-2018 12:07am

threeball wrote: »

We should have at least 3 major additions next year so that's a plus and I don't think we need as many back. If we can't defend with the 6 backs and the two midfielders dropping in front plus one or two half forwards then we're wasting our time.
I'd rather we went with at least 4 up front all the time and go at teams. We have really good footballers that other teams don't have. We still won't beat Dublin as we'll fall short in the stamina stakes as will every other team but I'd rather play football than sit back and bleed out slowly.

Best of luck under current regime. Another year wasted in store I really fear.

El festino · 03-09-2018 10:49am

Any one go to hurling matches over the weekend?
Turlough were stronger than Clarenbridge.
Thomas's looked very good in full flow but took foot off the gas in second half.
Both deserved winners

I says · 03-09-2018 4:16pm

El festino wrote: »

Any one go to hurling matches over the weekend?
Turlough were stronger than Clarenbridge.
Thomas's looked very good in full flow but took foot off the gas in second half.
Both deserved winners

Portumna pissed on the chips against loughrea who got 5 unanswered points in last four minutes to win by three.

Happyilylost · 03-09-2018 7:30pm

Agreed 're Portuma vs Loughrea. Portuma had it well in control until very late. I think Loughrea were trailing right up until the 59th minute. Gort were very impressive against a very lacklustre Sarsfields. I know they got beaten well but Kevin Cooney from the Galway U21 team was unbelievable. Think he ended up with around 7 or 8 from play along with a sideline ball. Shots were from all the the pitch. Seen Gort twice this year and it's nice to see Richie Cummins back playing so well. Was dogged with injuries for many years.

MfMan · 03-09-2018 10:00pm

Happyilylost wrote: »

Agreed 're Portuma vs Loughrea. Portuma had it well in control until very late. I think Loughrea were trailing right up until the 59th minute. Gort were very impressive against a very lacklustre Sarsfields. I know they got beaten well but Kevin Cooney from the Galway U21 team was unbelievable. Think he ended up with around 7 or 8 from play along with a sideline ball. Shots were from all the the pitch. Seen Gort twice this year and it's nice to see Richie Cummins back playing so well. Was dogged with injuries for many years.

Heard it said Cooney has no great interest in playing county, but with a bit of application and playing with really good players around him, he could be a good option for the Seniors if he had a go at it.

obi604 · 03-09-2018 10:13pm

Strange question here:)

Joe Canning for last few years has been using a Canning hurl.

Can anyone tell me who made his hurls before this??

orl · 04-09-2018 12:05am

obi604 wrote: »

Strange question here:)

Joe Canning for last few years has been using a Canning hurl.

Can anyone tell me who made his hurls before this??

I know tony keady used to make some for him and he was very fussy!

orl · 04-09-2018 12:06am

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

His Dad is from Galway and a big Galway supporter so I guess he grew up supporting Galway

I am very curious about this myself. Was he a boarder somewhere in Galway? Who drove him to training during the Summer holidays.

gammygils · 04-09-2018 1:01am

obi604 wrote: »

Strange question here:)

Joe Canning for last few years has been using a Canning hurl.

Can anyone tell me who made his hurls before this??

[/HTML]url]https://www.balls.ie/gaa/joe-canning-hurleys-tony-keady-388688[/url[/HTML]

jr86 · 04-09-2018 1:35pm

Happyilylost wrote: »

Agreed 're Portuma vs Loughrea. Portuma had it well in control until very late. I think Loughrea were trailing right up until the 59th minute. Gort were very impressive against a very lacklustre Sarsfields. I know they got beaten well but Kevin Cooney from the Galway U21 team was unbelievable. Think he ended up with around 7 or 8 from play along with a sideline ball. Shots were from all the the pitch. Seen Gort twice this year and it's nice to see Richie Cummins back playing so well. Was dogged with injuries for many years.

Looks like the big break has really affected some teams, there were some real trimmings handed out, which contrasted mainly with the first 2 rounds

Very surprised to see Gort beating sarsfields so easily, Gort were completely outclassed in the corresponding fixture last year. They're a very inconsistent side

I think if it was played off earlier in the year Mellows would have been the favourites after the first 2 rounds, but after being on the go pretty much non-stop since December 2016 I can see it taking its toll by the quarters/semis.

Thomas's and Turlough are probably the best 2 sides on paper but a long way to go yet

I'm not a fan of this drawn out format though, the winners have to play 6/7 matches since the resumption after the summer (not incl. replays). There are way too many pointless group games and bang average teams in senior B. Throw in needless preliminary quarter finals and relegation semis into the mix and its no wonder it doesn't get finished till late in the year

The performances from last weekend, mean little or nothing in terms of classifying overall contenders, given the latter stages are likely to be played in completely different conditions later in the year. Its as if there are a few different championships in one

The Galway football champ is on the right track and the new proposed format (which Mayo football use now) of 4x4 groups is the way to go for me

fearruanua · 04-09-2018 1:39pm

The Galway football champ is on the right track and the new proposed format (which Mayo football use now) of 4x4 groups is the way to go for me

100% agree with this. Makes so much sense!!

jr86 · 04-09-2018 1:42pm

fearruanua wrote: »

100% agree with this. Makes so much sense!!

The Galway intermediate football championship which currently uses the format has benefitted hugely from it imo

Last round of group matches this weekend, with plenty at stake for basically every team in it!

I've given up trying to even follow the live permutations in the Galway hurling with the (imo) daft layout of 6 teams, and 5 separate weekend of fixtures.

I says · 04-09-2018 2:41pm

I've given up trying to even follow the live permutations in the Galway hurling with the (imo) daft layout of 6 teams, and 5 separate weekend of fixtures.[/quote]

If I can recall back in the early nineties it was at different stages 4groups of five then five groups of four and was there 3 groups of six at one stage, I think. It was getting reworked nearly every season.

El festino · 04-09-2018 4:10pm

fearruanua wrote: »

100% agree with this. Makes so much sense!!

Totally agree with this too. It used to be this way. Top 4 play Second 4 in QF's.
So complicated now.

donnem33 · 04-09-2018 4:12pm

jr86 wrote: »

Looks like the big break has really affected some teams, there were some real trimmings handed out, which contrasted mainly with the first 2 rounds

Very surprised to see Gort beating sarsfields so easily, Gort were completely outclassed in the corresponding fixture last year. They're a very inconsistent side

I think if it was played off earlier in the year Mellows would have been the favourites after the first 2 rounds, but after being on the go pretty much non-stop since December 2016 I can see it taking its toll by the quarters/semis.

Thomas's and Turlough are probably the best 2 sides on paper but a long way to go yet

I'm not a fan of this drawn out format though, the winners have to play 6/7 matches since the resumption after the summer (not incl. replays). There are way too many pointless group games and bang average teams in senior B. Throw in needless preliminary quarter finals and relegation semis into the mix and its no wonder it doesn't get finished till late in the year

The performances from last weekend, mean little or nothing in terms of classifying overall contenders, given the latter stages are likely to be played in completely different conditions later in the year. Its as if there are a few different championships in one

The Galway football champ is on the right track and the new proposed format (which Mayo football use now) of 4x4 groups is the way to go for me

Liam Hodgins is their coach/trainer this year and he is a shrewd operator

jr86 · 05-09-2018 8:32am

Yes but they are going very average in the league and were brutal against Portumna in the last round of championship

Its just a wide open competition these days with no proper ultra consistent side

TCDStudent1 · 05-09-2018 9:02am

fearruanua wrote: »

100% agree with this. Makes so much sense!!

In Mayo, clubs have home championship games at the group stage which I think is a brilliant idea. I went to one a couple of years ago and it brought a great buzz to that village on that day. I'd incorporate that into Galway too.

jr86 · 05-09-2018 9:06am

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

In Mayo, clubs have home championship games at the group stage which I think is a brilliant idea. I went to one a couple of years ago and it brought a great buzz to that village on that day. I'd incorporate that into Galway too.

Assume they won't do it in Galway due to the massive geographical spread of clubs

Ballinasloe v Clifden, Williamstown v Litir Mor etc. unless there was a maximum distance implemented

TCDStudent1 · 05-09-2018 9:27am

jr86 wrote: »

Assume they won't do it in Galway due to the massive geographical spread of clubs

Ballinasloe v Clifden, Williamstown v Litir Mor etc. unless there was a maximum distance implemented

True, didn't think of that.

fearruanua · 05-09-2018 1:05pm

jr86 wrote: »

The Galway intermediate football championship which currently uses the format has benefitted hugely from it imo

Last round of group matches this weekend, with plenty at stake for basically every team in it!

I've given up trying to even follow the live permutations in the Galway hurling with the (imo) daft layout of 6 teams, and 5 separate weekend of fixtures.

And you have to hand it to the football board. Finally they are going to reduce the number of senior teams to 16 and run it the way the intermediate is being run this year. I've been saying it for years that there were too many senior teams and the standard was suffering as a result. Currently 20 teams in senior. With three being relegated this year and one coming up from intermediate the 2019 championship will have 18 teams. 3 down 1 up again in 2019 which leaves the 2020 senior championship with 16 teams.

Not sure what is happening with junior A but I would be scrapping the west and north boards for junior A championship and have the same structure as senior and intermediate. 16 teams. 4 groups of 4.

Hopefully the hurling board might see the light soon.

MfMan · 05-09-2018 1:43pm

fearruanua wrote: »

And you have to hand it to the football board. Finally they are going to reduce the number of senior teams to 16 and run it the way the intermediate is being run this year. I've been saying it for years that there were too many senior teams and the standard was suffering as a result. Currently 20 teams in senior. With three being relegated this year and one coming up from intermediate the 2019 championship will have 18 teams. 3 down 1 up again in 2019 which leaves the 2020 senior championship with 16 teams.

Not sure what is happening with junior A but I would be scrapping the west and north boards for junior A championship and have the same structure as senior and intermediate. 16 teams. 4 groups of 4.

Hopefully the hurling board might see the light soon.

Hopefully, but the clubs themselves are usually the biggest obstacles to change. Won't vote for something if it means there's a threat of relegation hanging over them. This is true of many a thing that CBs get blamed for.

fearruanua · 05-09-2018 2:38pm

MfMan wrote: »

Hopefully, but the clubs themselves are usually the biggest obstacles to change. Won't vote for something if it means there's a threat of relegation hanging over them. This is true of many a thing that CBs get blamed for.

Yeah i know. They don't see the bigger picture. I wonder how the football board got it through?

djPSB · 05-09-2018 3:40pm

There are currently only 13 teams in intermediate hurling, room for a few more to be dropped from senior B.

grbear · 05-09-2018 4:36pm

I'm not a fan of the current structure in the SFC. You've four groups in senior and four in intermediate. Should just be 4 up and 4 down. Don't think the drawn out relegation playoffs benefit anyone, just stretches out the misery of the struggling sides.

Diabhal Beag · 05-09-2018 7:55pm

Right so after a good 2018 we have the League fixtures.

Sunday 27/1/2019
Footballers home v Cavan
Hurlers home v Laois

Saturday 2/2/2019
Footballers away to Dublin
Sunday 3/2/2019
Hurlers away to Carlow

Saturday 9/2/2019
Footballers away to Monaghan

Sunday 17/2/2019
Hurlers home v Dublin

Sunday 24/2/2019
Footballers home v Kerry
Hurlers away to Offaly

Saturday 2/3/2019
Footballers away to Mayo
Sunday 3/3/2019
Hurlers away to Waterford

Saturday 16/3/2019
Footballers home v Roscommon *Listed as 2pm*

Sunday 24/3/2019
Footballers away to Tyrone

Utopia Parkway · 05-09-2018 11:47pm

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Right so after a good 2018 we have the League fixtures.

Sunday 27/1/2019
Footballers home v Cavan
Hurlers home v Laois

Saturday 2/2/2019
Footballers away to Dublin
Sunday 3/2/2019
Hurlers away to Carlow

Saturday 9/2/2019
Footballers away to Monaghan

Sunday 17/2/2019
Hurlers home v Dublin

Sunday 24/2/2019
Footballers home v Kerry
Hurlers away to Offaly

Saturday 2/3/2019
Footballers away to Mayo
Sunday 3/3/2019
Hurlers away to Waterford

Saturday 16/3/2019
Footballers home v Roscommon *Listed as 2pm*

Sunday 24/3/2019
Footballers away to Tyrone

Tougher fixture list than this year with 4 tough away games. Dublin, Tyrone and Monaghan all away and Mayo as well who will be desperate for any kind of win over Galway at this stage.

You would hope they would beat the two promoted sides at home anyway but they'll be doing well to reach another league final next year.

jr86 · 06-09-2018 8:37am

grbear wrote: »

I'm not a fan of the current structure in the SFC. You've four groups in senior and four in intermediate. Should just be 4 up and 4 down. Don't think the drawn out relegation playoffs benefit anyone, just stretches out the misery of the struggling sides.

4 teams up from intermediate? That would never work and rightfully so

They tried 2 up from intermediate championship in hurling in the 00s and it got a poor reception, never mind 4. It took a lot of the gloss away from the final, with both teams going up anyway

The whole point of this new championship structure is to get rid of these "struggling sides". 6 teams will be relegated in the next 2 years

It's a perfect format imo.

jr86 · 06-09-2018 8:43am

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Tougher fixture list than this year with 4 tough away games. Dublin, Tyrone and Monaghan all away and Mayo as well who will be desperate for any kind of win over Galway at this stage.

You would hope they would beat the two promoted sides at home anyway but they'll be doing well to reach another league final next year.

That's a very tough run of fixtures for Galway in the league

Dublin can take a few games to find their feet but Saturday night under lights in Croker they'll be very hard to beat, and then Monaghan away in another tricky fixture. Having to get a result in Omagh in the last game wouldn't be ideal either..

I can't see them making the final again, but I can't see them relegated either. I think Mayo will really struggle in the league and surely at least one of Roscommon and Cavan is going down, although I have a feeling Rossies will have a good go of the league next year

fearruanua · 06-09-2018 9:29am

the hurling league fixtures wouldn't do much to whet one's appetite!!

I says · 06-09-2018 11:39am

fearruanua wrote: »

the hurling league fixtures wouldn't do much to whet one's appetite!!

Promotion definitely for 19

djPSB · 06-09-2018 12:47pm

I says wrote: »

Promotion definitely for 19

No advantage to promotion with current formats of league and championship.

MfMan · 06-09-2018 1:12pm

jr86 wrote: »

4 teams up from intermediate? That would never work and rightfully so

They tried 2 up from intermediate championship in hurling in the 00s and it got a poor reception, never mind 4. It took a lot of the gloss away from the final, with both teams going up anyway

The whole point of this new championship structure is to get rid of these "struggling sides". 6 teams will be relegated in the next 2 years

It's a perfect format imo.

Would prefer 2 up/2 down myself, eventually. Keep Senior teams on their toes, keep the top level from going a bit stale, and I think the Intermediate final would actually be more competitive and entertaining in stead of being cagey, given that the strain of promotion wasn't at stake.

jr86 · 06-09-2018 1:15pm

They had 2 up and down in the football too in the 90s/00s iirc but one up through championship, and one through league (both relegations were through league)

It caused controversy when county finallists in 2005 Carna were relegated through the league that season and played intermediate in 2006

MfMan · 06-09-2018 1:18pm

jr86 wrote: »

That's a very tough run of fixtures for Galway in the league

Dublin can take a few games to find their feet but Saturday night under lights in Croker they'll be very hard to beat, and then Monaghan away in another tricky fixture. Having to get a result in Omagh in the last game wouldn't be ideal either..

I can't see them making the final again, but I can't see them relegated either. I think Mayo will really struggle in the league and surely at least one of Roscommon and Cavan is going down, although I have a feeling Rossies will have a good go of the league next year

Can see Galway doing a 'Waterford' on it next year unless the necessary 3 new defenders are brought in and 2 better forwards. Team needs a good bit of freshening up.

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