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Whats with the obsession with legislating for same-sex marriage?
The country is facing a woeful economic crises and all you guys can go on about is a fairly minor social issue.
Talk about self-absorbed.
Equality isn't a "minor social issue". Some of us just don't get swept up by the issue of the moment and focus only on that. I'm not sure how you could class it as self-absorbed either, unless you're assuming we're all gay...
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Equality isn't a "minor social issue". Some of us just don't get swept up by the issue of the moment and focus only on that. I'm not sure how you could class it as self-absorbed either, unless you're assuming we're all gay...
"The issue of the moment".
That's how you have chosen to phrase the greatest crisis this country has faced since the Civil War?!
I know money isn't everything and all but come on its pretty fcukin serious!!!
We should be voting for who we believe is best placed to get the thing sorted in some sort of an efficient manner.
All other considerations should be put aside for the time being IMO.0 -
But where this is not possible, Irish bankruptcy laws must be updated. They currently are unpractical,
unused, excessively costly and overly penal. A Fine Gael Government will fast-track the reforms needed to
bring us into line with best international standards, focusing on the following elements:
• Reducing the time to discharge from bankruptcy from six years to one for “honest bankrupts”, defined
as one that has materially complied with the Tax, NAMA and Companies Acts among others;
• A Non-Judicial Debt Settlement System that will change bankruptcy from a judicial to an administrative
process, with filings being made with a new Debt Settlement Office within the Courts Service without the
need for legal representation;
• New Commercial Voluntary Arrangements (CVAs), which are legally binding arrangements between
the directors of a company and their creditors (at least 75%) that would protect the debtor from interest
charges and the threat of enforcement during the period of the life of the CVA;
• A Limited Residence and Personal Assets Safe Harbour that will permit a bankrupt to ring fence from
the bankruptcy process ownership of a principal private residence (within limits based on size, value and
family numbers) and specified personal assets not to exceed €40,000 in value; and
• A Prohibition against Discrimination against Discharged Bankrupts to ensure that former bankrupts
are treated fairly in their applications for credit or other services.
This is good and badly needed espeacially the Honest Bankruptcy part.Kick-Starting the Property Market: Getting the property market functioning properly again is a condition
of strong economic recovery. This will require NAMA to dispose of property assets secured from developers
in default of their loans into the private sector as quickly as possible. We are open to considering new types
of investment vehicles – such as U.S. style Real Estate Investment Trusts – that can help create a new, liquid
investment market in commercial property for Irish pension funds and smaller investors.
I don't understand why we need to kick start the Property market. Why are we not better off to just let it take it's course without interference, what are the benefits of "Kick-starting" the property market?Child Benefit: Fine Gael will implement a rebalanced and integrated “Child Income Support” with both
universal and targeted components to make the system of child support better targeted at child poverty.
I feel Child benefit should be scrapped altogetherRegulation of Embryo Research: We will legislate to regulate human embryo research
GoodSupporting Irish Pubs: Fine Gael recognises the importance of the Irish pub for tourism, rural jobs and as
a social outlet in communities across the country. We will support the local pub by banning the practice
of below cost selling on alcohol, particularly by large supermarkets and the impact this has had on alcohol
consumption and the viability of pubs.
I cant understand this at all. I feel it is a ridiculous thing to do. If pubs want more customers they should lower their prices. I don't feel goverment intervention is the best way forward at all.Financial Crimes: Fine Gael will ensure that rogue bankers and all those that misappropriate or embezzle
funds are properly pursued for their crimes and that the full rigours of the law will apply to them. We will
give the courts the powers necessary to impose appropriate fines and jail sentences
This sounds great. Hopefully they actually deliver on this promise.Sentencing Reform: We will overhaul current sentencing practices to ensure violent criminals serve their
full term in prison. We will end the cost to the taxpayer of short term sentences, which lead to high rates
of re-offending, and use more cost effective and community based methods of punishing offending. We
will end the practice of imprisoning people who cannot pay their fines and debts and introduce a system
which takes a small amount of money from a persons’ wages or social welfare by an “attachment order” to
pay off the fine or debt over time
Again a good proposal
I agree with all the defence proposals.
I agree with most of the education part of the document, bar the extra points for maths and some science courses "where skills shortages currently exist". Allocating 50% of the mark to the irish oral is a great idea imo.Second Chance Education (17,000 places): This will offer former retail and construction workers that
did not finish school or to college ‘back to education’ placements for two years. Participants will receive a
premium payment of €20 per week on top of their social welfare payment, a €500 payment towards books
etc and a €3,000 completion bonus.
I feel this will be too costly and is completely unfair. An awful idea imo.Graduate Contribution: Fine Gael will develop a fairer funding system for third level to ensure every
student has access to a high quality education. This will involve a graduate contribution from students
of roughly a third of the cost of their course. The contribution will be made by new entrants to publiclyfunded third level institutions after the student graduates, enters employment and reaches a defined
income threshold.
If by this they mean a graduate tax, then good. it's not ideal but is a step in the right direction imo.
The Faircare plan sounds great, though I don't know how viable it is. Hopefully they definitely do this anyway:Manpower Crisis: Fine Gael will initiate a long-term manpower strategy to tackle the chronic front line
staff shortages we face in specialities such as general practice, mental health, physiotherapy, occupational
therapy and speech and language therapy to mention but a few.
Hopefully i can end up working here, it's an area I would like to get involved in. Hope this happensRare Diseases: In Government, Fine Gael is committed to developing a national plan for rare diseases by 2013
Overall i am pretty pleased. Fine Gael will more then likely be getting my vote anyway.0 -
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WhosUpDocs wrote: »Couldn't agree more. I'm 100% for free education. It's one of the last actual strengths of this country. But paying people to attend seems counter intuitive. I know if I wasn't a full time student and unemployed I'd jump at the chance to get back.
It's not like they let me draw social welfare while in college. Double standards need to be addressed
I agree with your post bar the bold part. I believe students should have to pay 2500 reg fee, plus 2500 tuition fee (unless you qualify for a grant) but not one cent more.
But hey lets not get into all this.
I agree though however, what could be better than being paid to go to college? I'd jump at the chance too!0 -
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DanDan6592 wrote: »I agree with your post bar the bold part. I believe students should have to pay 2500 reg fee, plus 2500 tuition fee (unless you qualify for a grant) but not one cent more.
But hey lets not get into all this.
I agree though however, what could be better than being paid to go to college? I'd jump at the chance too!
It's actually just 2500 reg fee which is covered by the grant if you qualify. I meant to put inverted commas around free:D You don't need to tell me college is far from free :eek:
But yeah that's another can o' worms entirely.
Generally pretty impressed with the manifesto overall though.0 -
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