Boston Marathon - new registration procedures

Krusty_Clown

Sorry to hear that Speedy, but it sounds like w wise decision. The gruelling 1,000 mile journey is probably not the ideal kind of training for a pop at a fast marathon. Next time..

KentuckyPete

Speedy44 wrote: »

Well, I may as well face it and realise that as much as I want too, I won't make it over for this years race. May have the brother get my goodie bag though

I just don't think I'm in good enough shape to have a serious go at the sub 3, maybe if everything clicked on the day, but thats highly unlikely.
I'd be afraid that if I did run it and come back with a 3:10-15 then that would set me back again for another few months, so I may as well just continue on my road back from the 1000mls and concentrate on some shorter stuff.

Best of luck to all of you, enjoy the experience that is the Boston Marathon. - Speedy

Jaysus Speedy, sorry to hear that. I was looking forward to meeting you - we both did Rotterdam last year too - one of us must be stalking

Good luck with the recovery

Peckham

Peckham wrote: »

How about this place for a meet-up after the finish?

Is close enough to the finish area, but yet removed from the crowds....and they serve Bud Light, so will suit Krusty perfectly!

Emailed this bar to make sure they are open that afternoon and to see about reserving a table. Response was that they're open, but are expecting to be busy so not allowing reservations.

Krusty_Clown

Peckham wrote: »

Emailed this bar to make sure they are open that afternoon and to see about reserving a table. Response was that they're open, but are expecting to be busy so not allowing reservations.

Did you not tell them you were Irish?

It's Patriot's Day. Every bar is going to be busy, particularly with the game going on in Fenway.
Oh and BTW: Taper time!

Peckham

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Did you not tell them you were Irish?

I did actually!

wideball

Might be of interest to some, http://www.runningnut.com/marathon-tapering/

I'm planning a 2 week taper, with 18-20 miles easy on Saturday the last major run.

Krusty_Clown

wideball wrote: »

Might be of interest to some, http://www.runningnut.com/marathon-tapering/

I'm planning a 2 week taper, with 18-20 miles easy on Saturday the last major run.

I'm doing a three week taper, with mileage going from:
86 (last week) -> 70 -> 54 -> 36.
Slow drop-off to start with, and down to 42% in the final week. Won't know myself. There are no rest days though and a couple of intensive runs (1 race, two intervals sessions), so at least I won't go stir crazy.

figs

Taper started. Received the welcome pack in today's post. Getting close now!

loughie

If I make it to the start line i'll be happy. Jarred my knee at end of Meath half. Trained on for the week and raced 10 mile race in Bundoran. Both races were PB's!! Knee swelled up so rested for a week. Done 50 miles last week and knee swelled up again after 20 miler on Sunday. Rested for 3 days now and swelling reducing. Looks like i'll have to take it easy up to the race and hope I can give it a good go.

New goal just to get around.

figs

loughie wrote: »

If I make it to the start line i'll be happy. Jarred my knee at end of Meath half. Trained on for the week and raced 10 mile race in Bundoran. Both races were PB's!! Knee swelled up so rested for a week. Done 50 miles last week and knee swelled up again after 20 miler on Sunday. Rested for 3 days now and swelling reducing. Looks like i'll have to take it easy up to the race and hope I can give it a good go.

New goal just to get around.

Bad luck. A few short fast runs rather than any great distance in next two weeks should probably see you through. The endurance work has already been done. Hopefully you'll be good by race day.

Peckham

This time two weeks we'll probably be sitting on damp grass in Hopkinton anxiously waiting to get things underway.

How's everyone feeling? My two key sessions last week have given me a lot more confidence than I had this time last week, but still in the balance as to whether I can reach my target.

On the recommendation from those on the Runners World forum I downloaded one of the customised pace calculators for Boston, and it's well worth the €5. Calculates your pace based on elevations, race strategy etc. Worth taking a look.

KentuckyPete

Peckham wrote: »

This time two weeks we'll probably be sitting on damp grass in Hopkinton anxiously waiting to get things underway.

How's everyone feeling? My two key sessions last week have given me a lot more confidence than I had this time last week, but still in the balance as to whether I can reach my target.

Not too bad Peckham - ran the last long run yesterday - 5 @ 7:11, 5 @ 6:59, 5 @ 6:40, 3 warmdown @ 7:40. So today is day 1 of the taper. I'm happy I'm in a good place regarding pace but have not been able to go at any hills since the calf injury. I'll know how that is at mile 16 in two weeks. The time out with injury has definitely helped with the freshness side of things - there was an appetite for more yesterday. But the injury must have diminished capacity to handle hills and overall stamina. Fingers crossed I'll hope to aim for 1st / 2nd half splits of just under 1:29 / 1:30

wideball

I did my last serious run on Saturday (30km) in the Phoenix Park. I ran an easy consistent pace (4:34km / 7:20mi) for it all. I didn't want to add any PMP sections as I wanted to keep the legs relatively fresh. I've done all my PMP work at this stage, so I used Saturday's run as literally a dress rehearsal.

Will do 8-10 miles next weekend with a few miles at PMP and other than that just short sharp runs.

But I wish I was in Boston now and ready to go, instead of the next 2 weeks of nervous energy waiting... In good shape at the moment but it'll be on the day as they say. Booked in for a sports massage in the morning.

Peckham, good to hear you had a good week.

TheRoadRunner

What's up you Boston bound pussies.

Us real men, (i.e London bound marathon runners ) have a table of target times. How about you sandbaggers put one up as well and we'll have a competition. We'll add up all the predicted times and compare them to actual finishing times. The marathon with the closest % time will be deemed the winners. Are ye up for it or are ye chicken.

PS yo mama is so fat ..................

Peckham

Bring it on. Not only will we take down you Londoners, we'll take down those incline-fearing Rotterdamers too.

And that's just in the drinking stakes. Is there a column for that in your table?

wideball

London vs. Boston, now it starts....

TheRoadRunner

wideball wrote: »

London vs. Boston, now it starts....

Not a bad response wideball but you pussies still got no table of target times :cool:

figs

Bring it on...

Name|PB Time|Target Time|Wave/Corral|Boston 2012 time
figs|3:04:49|2:59:00|1/5|

wideball

Name|PB Time|Target Time|Wave/Corral|Boston 2012 time
figs|3:04:49|2:59:00|1/5|
wideball|3:13:41|2:59:00|1/8|

TheRoadRunner

Name|Category|PB Time|Target Time|Wave/Corral|Boston 2012 time
figs|pussy|3:04:49|2:59:00|1/5|
wideball|pussy|3:13:41|2:59:00|1/8|


I've updated that table for you ladies

Krusty_Clown

Name|PB Time|Target Time|Wave/Corral|Boston 2012 time
figs|3:04:49|2:59:00|1/5|
wideball|3:13:41|2:59:00|1/8|
krusty_clown|2:48:10|2:42:30|1/1|


I'll be having some of that. Of course the points formula has to take into account improvement from current PB. Can't be having people going for a pussy-like jog around the marathon course.

figs

TheRoadRunner wrote: »

Name|Category|PB Time|Target Time|Wave/Corral|Boston 2012 time
figs|pussy|3:04:49|2:59:00|1/5|
wideball|pussy|3:13:41|2:59:00|1/8|


I've updated that table for you ladies

There's gonna be trouble when we catch hold of you!!

Peckham

Name|PB Time|Target Time|Wave/Corral|Boston 2012 time
figs|3:04:49|2:59:00|1/5|
wideball|3:13:41|2:59:00|1/8|
krusty_clown|2:48:10|2:42:30|1/1|
Peckham|2:58:59|2:52:15|1/3|

loughie

Name|PB Time|Target Time|Wave/Corral|Boston 2012 time
figs|3:04:49|2:59:00|1/5|
wideball|3:13:41|2:59:00|1/8|
krusty_clown|2:48:10|2:42:30|1/1|
Peckham|2:58:59|2:52:15|1/3|
Loughie|3:03:38|4:00:00|1/4|


13 miles last week, just physio this week on a MCL grade 2 sprain/tear!! Just want to get around

drquirky

Hey lads- Sorry I haven;t been around much to answer any questions- my new baby has put a stop to any notion of leisure time. Anyway- I figured I'd post a few thoughts on my hometown before you left- just a few suggestions if anyone is interested...

Awesome places to eat:

Anna's Taqueria (cheap but delicious burritos) http://www.annastaqueria.com/

Redbones (proper BBQ pulled pork etc and Craft Beer) http://redbones.com/

Pizzeria Regina (co runner for best old school Boston Pizza Thorton St.)http://www.pizzeriaregina.com/

Santarpio's (my favorite Boston Pizza) http://www.santarpiospizza.com/

Grill 23 (great steaks but $$$$) http://grill23.com/

Best Running shops =

Marathon Sports http://www.marathonsports.com/

Things to Do-

The Science Museum is great w/ kids http://www.mos.org/

The Freedom Trail is a walk around the city that takes in most of the best Revolutionary War sites- http://www.thefreedomtrail.org/

drquirky

Oops- posted that before I meant to. Also good are Duck Tours, Harbor Cruises (though I think Whale Watches run a little long and can be boring if no Whales are seen) and obviously watching a game at the only church I've ever known Fenway Park- home of the best baseball team on the planet.

Anyways, have fun, good luck and PM me if you have any specific questions...

DQ

wideball

Some more stuff on pace charts and info for Boston
http://www.runtri.com/2012/04/boston-marathon-race-pace-charts-actual.html

This looks handy
http://runnersconnect.net/boston-marathon-coach/pace-calculator/

Peckham

Thanks for all that info drquirky - was looking at Duck Tours this morning, so will probably book that for the Saturday in order to get a trip round the city whilst keeping the legs fresh!

Others - not sure if you noticed in the email from BAA the other day, but Sam Adams brewery is doing "special tours" for marathon runners and if you show your number you get a free commemorative glass. Tour is free also, but you need to reserve a spot. Check the email.

Krusty_Clown

Peckham wrote: »

Thanks for all that info drquirky - was looking at Duck Tours this morning, so will probably book that for the Saturday in order to get a trip round the city whilst keeping the legs fresh!

Others - not sure if you noticed in the email from BAA the other day, but Sam Adams brewery is doing "special tours" for marathon runners and if you show your number you get a free commemorative glass. Tour is free also, but you need to reserve a spot. Check the email.

I wonder does London marathon have it's own beer? What about Rotterdam?

Hi Peckham, if you get a chance, can you compare your Boston-specific pace band to the one generated in wideball's second link. Just be interesting to compare. Personally, I reckon I'll just bring an even-split pace band, but will just use it as a general 'am I ahead or behind' reference, rather than a mile-by-mile guide. I tend to run all of my marathons at a pace that feels manageable at the time, and take breaks 'off-the-pace' to recover when I need them, so sticking religiously to a pace-band would only serve as a cause of consternation.

shels4ever

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

I wonder does London marathon have it's own beer? What about Rotterdam? :p

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http://www.fullers.co.uk/rte.asp?id=151
Too right it does, it's a mans race.

Peckham

shels4ever wrote: »

http://www.fullers.co.uk/rte.asp?id=151
Too right it does, it's a mans race.

That's just some generic mass-produced beer. Not a patch on the Boston version!

KC - I haven't done the comparison, but according to what I read on Runners World forums, it's identical. The only difference with the one I downloaded is that it includes variables for pacing strategies - i.e. even effort versus even pace, fast/slow/steady start, and degree of fade towards the end. This version just assumes average values across all those variables, but gives a very good guidance in terms of the suggested variance in pace on downhills versus Newton Hills.

Krusty_Clown

shels4ever wrote: »

http://www.fullers.co.uk/rte.asp?id=151
Too right it does, it's a mans race.

It is, in my opinion, a damn fine beer (wasted on you pussies). If they supply you with a few free pints, bring 'em back to Dublin with you, and the Boston lads will drink 'em once we're done with the Boston beer.

TheRoadRunner

Jesus lads are ye going to Boston to go on holiday or are you going there to get the job done and run a marathon All this talk of tours and sight seeing etc. Bloody disgrace in my book, you would be better off planning how you are going to run your marathon times as the London crew are planning on wiping the floor with your times.

TheRoadRunner

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

It is, in my opinion, a damn fine beer (wasted on you pussies). If they supply you with a few free pints, bring 'em back to Dublin with you, and the Boston lads will drink 'em once we're done with the Boston beer.

Ha you ladies would probably require a crystal wine glass or the like.

shels4ever

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

It is, in my opinion, a damn fine beer (wasted on you pussies). If they supply you with a few free pints, bring 'em back to Dublin with you, and the Boston lads will drink 'em once we're done with the Boston beer.

Well lads wonder how much beer you can make it through after the race, its all well and good running 2:42 or 2:52 but if your in bed 2 horus after the race whats the point . Cans of Dutchie at the finish line followed but the best yellow pack beer will do us - Will leave the cosmopolitans and craft beers to you fancy dans.


i'd take a 2:52 and early night actually.

Peckham

TheRoadRunner wrote: »

the London crew are planning on wiping the floor with your times

Let's see how many PBs are set in Boston compared with London. That's the true measure after all.

shels4ever

Peckham wrote: »

Let's see how many PBs are set in Boston compared with London. That's the true measure after all.

For drinking or running?, I've a chance of a running pb but i'm afraid my days of setting drinking pb's are over. I can't compete with a mid 20s shels anymore.

Peckham

shels4ever wrote: »

For drinking or running?, I've a chance of a running pb but i'm afraid my days of setting drinking pb's are over. I can't compete with a mid 20s shels anymore.

I think we would all struggle in competition with a mid-20s version of ourselves, especially in a post-marathon state!

TheRoadRunner

Peckham wrote: »

Let's see how many PBs are set in Boston compared with London. That's the true measure after all.

Sure when you are coming from such a crap level it's easy to set PBs

Krusty_Clown

TheRoadRunner wrote: »

Sure when you are coming from such a crap level it's easy to set PBs

We had a chat with the Rotterdam lads, and between us, we felt you guys were at a bit of a disadvantage, so we've chipped in, and given you an extra week of training. Use it wisely.

shels4ever

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

We had a chat with the Rotterdam lads, and between us, we felt you guys were at a bit of a disadvantage, so we've chipped in, and given you an extra week of training. Use it wisely.

To reciprocate we have sorted you out with a down hill point to point race, only problem is pb's don't count on this course now!!!!!!

TheRoadRunner

drquirky wrote: »

obviously watching a game at the only church I've ever known Fenway Park- home of the best baseball team on the planet.

I thought the Yankees played in Yankee Stadium ;)

wideball

Just updated The Road Runner's London marathon table. London is a fun run compared to Boston!!

dermCu

Sh1t Boston Marathon runners Say:

The tail wind didn't really help me that much.
The head wind ruined any chance I had of a fast time.
It was too hot.
It was too cold.
Man, my quads are shot. Are your quads shot? Man, my quads are shot.
I was on for sub 3 but I misread my customised pace band and ran 5:50s instead of 6:50s. Didn't make it to Wellesley.

RAL3

Best of luck to ye all doing Boston, did it last year and would love to do it again.

I happened to be over there last week on business, posters are already up on Boylston St., shops are full of the official clothing ( orange this year as against green last year) and athmosphere seemed to be building nicely.

If you get a chance, drop into the Bill Rodgers running shop (www.billrodgersrunningcenter.com ) in North Market St, Quincy Market and have a chat with the very friendly knowledgable guys there about his 4 BM wins. There are loads of great photos & paper cuttings, but also the gear he wore when he won in 1979 (2 09) - the shoes look like he bought them in Pennys and removed the soles!

Anyway, enjoy.

BTW, last year..... the tail wind didn't really help me that much and it was too hot.............

Peckham

RAL3 wrote: »

official clothing ( orange this year as against green last year)

Officially the colour is called "High Energy, however having received a present of a hoody for my birthday a few weeks ago, there is no doubting that it is orange! I shall be modelling it on the flight to Boston next Friday, so will be easy to find!

Krusty_Clown

Bruce Fordyce (Comrades Ultra fame) is giving a talk on the Comrades ultra, at the Harry Parker Boathouse on Saturday afternoon (2pm-4pm). Registration here. $5 voluntary charitable donation. Great opportunity to meet the legend!

Krusty_Clown

Weather forecast for Monday 16th:
8am-2pm: Partly Cloudy - 11'C - 0 mm Rain - Light breeze, 3 m/s from south-southwest
I would freakin love that weather. I would sacrifice my three cats to have that weather (I hate my cats).

Peckham

Some useful info

Peckham

When do we start worrying about the weather? My weather app showing highs of 27C for raceday!