Advice for ensuite

shellyb73

Hi,

We had the ensuite tiled about 12 months ago. Tiler said to tile over vent hole in wall as it would look better, probably did but even though we open windows after showers black mould has started on the ceiling right against the exterior wall.

What is the best way to break through the tile in order to put the vent back in place, or is there an alternative solution?
Thanks all,
ShellyB

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Joey the lips

Do you know exactly where the vent was located.

Drill a small hole in the grout line over the hole to test. Then successivly drill larger holes. When the hole is about 3" across you should get a tile nippers in to nipp away at the tile bringing it back.

Be careful not to be tempted to whack the area with a hammer. What will happen is you will cause the tile to stress and push in at the hole but pop out at the other end. Where it pops out it will most likely cause the plaster to pop out thus taking the tile beside it.

Alternativly you can connect a ceiling fan to the ceiling and run it out through the soffit board in the attic.

However drilling the holes works out cheapest...

shellyb73

Thanks again as always for the great advice!

I have the measurements of where the hole is so should be easy enough then, the vent hole is on an exterior wall

Might look into the extractor when the $$$$ permits

Joey the lips

shellyb73 wrote: »

Thanks again as always for the great advice!

I have the measurements of where the hole is so should be easy enough then, the vent hole is on an exterior wall

Might look into the extractor when the $$$$ permits

An extractor is not dear, Get one with a hydrostat on it. It only comes on if it detects moisture so wont come on if your haveing a wee.

Outside that buy one with a timer so it stays on for a while afterwords.

underblenge

Stop ! Stop! There is a better option to breaking the tiles.

We recently got a complete revamp of our old ensuite done. We only had an Air Vent in the wall and wanted an Extractor Fan instead. The Electrician turned up with a Small White Round Extractor fan and advised us he would put it in the ceiling, up in the the corner of the room. It had a funnel which he ran along the attic.He cut a small hole is the Facia Board under the overhang and it extracts out through a mesh provided with the unit. He hooked it up to the light switch, with one switch for the light and one for the fan. It is very neat and is almost un-noticeable.

Because we had no window in the ensuite (and it was on an outside wall) we put in a Galss Block in where the previous vent was. It is amazing the difference in light in the room now, even with that Glass Block.

You should consider this. Believe me. It is surprisingly cheap and your Tiled wall stays intact.

Antiquo

Joey the lips wrote: »

Alternativly you can connect a ceiling fan to the ceiling and run it out through the soffit board in the attic.

However drilling the holes works out cheapest...

Joey the lips wrote: »

An extractor is not dear.

If your tiler sealed up the vent before tiling over it, i.e. did a proper job with insulation,etc. You miscalculate where it actually is and you're not handy with breaking out the tile or tiles. You could end up looking for a vent to cover a big hole.

I would wait and install a ceiling fan as Joey states they are not mad expensive and would be the proper job in the long run. You say at the moment you leave the window open well a vent is no different as even when vented steam will not rush out but still cause mildew when it pools and condenses on walls and ceilings whereas the fan will remove it.

I would also double check the insulation in the ceiling void (if you can get at it) as it may be raised or there may be a gap which is letting cold air cool the ceiling and causing the steam to condense there.

Joey the lips

underblenge wrote: »

Stop ! Stop! There is a better option to breaking the tiles.

We recently got a complete revamp of our old ensuite done. We only had an Air Vent in the wall and wanted an Extractor Fan instead. The Electrician turned up with a Small White Round Extractor fan and advised us he would put it in the ceiling, up in the the corner of the room. It had a funnel which he ran along the attic.He cut a small hole is the Facia Board under the overhang and it extracts out through a mesh provided with the unit. He hooked it up to the light switch, with one switch for the light and one for the fan. It is very neat and is almost un-noticeable.

Because we had no window in the ensuite (and it was on an outside wall) we put in a Galss Block in where the previous vent was. It is amazing the difference in light in the room now, even with that Glass Block.

You should consider this. Believe me. It is surprisingly cheap and your Tiled wall stays intact.

You must of missed that part where i said thats an option. post no 4 above. It would work out cheaper with the drill and the nippers however if this is not a prefered option then i would go with through the soffit board.

shellyb73

Thanks again, I would prefer not to break the tiles if Im honest, these electric vents how easy / difficult are they to hook up?

Hope this isnt a dumb suggestion but could I just drill the holes, not break out the tile and put the vent cover on the holes just drilled?

Tiler just put a tile over the hole I think no insulation.

Joey the lips

shellyb73 wrote: »

Thanks again, I would prefer not to break the tiles if Im honest, these electric vents how easy / difficult are they to hook up?

Hope this isnt a dumb suggestion but could I just drill the holes, not break out the tile and put the vent cover on the holes just drilled?

Tiler just put a tile over the hole I think no insulation.

Yes you can but you will not be getting enough draught through.

paddy147

Ceiling extractor fan,with the fan motor in the attic/ceiling joists and ducted out to the facia/soffit of the roof.

Job done.:)

shellyb73

paddy147 wrote: »

Ceiling extractor fan,with the fan motor in the attic/ceiling joists and ducted out to the facia/soffit of the roof.

Job done.:)

Big Job? Expensive?

Antiquo

paddy147 wrote: »

Ceiling extractor fan,with the fan motor in the attic/ceiling joists and ducted out to the facia/soffit of the roof.

Job done.:)

Taking a camera in when having a shower optional

paddy147

Antiquo wrote: »

Taking a camera in when having a shower optional

Indeed.;):D

All joking aside though,pic was taken for another theread to do with waterfall style showers in an ensuite.;)

paddy147

shellyb73 wrote: »

Big Job? Expensive?

60-70 euro for the fan kit,and then just drill a hole through the ceiling/plasterboard above,fit the fan,hook it up to the bathroom lights and then duct it out through the attic to the soffit/facia of the attic/roof .


Simple and straight forward enough.:)

150-200 euro all in (including a sparks time and labour) and you would have it done.