Ucd bComm ! ??????

LetsThinkBIG

Im thinking of doing the b comm (original). Ima 6th year student so i'll be starting in september.

What is the course like ?
Id love to get a bit of discussion going here !

El Siglo

LetsThinkBIG wrote: »

Im thinking of doing the b comm (original). Ima 6th year student so i'll be starting in september.

Not to sound completely malevolent; confident are we?:pac:

What is the course like ?
Id love to get a bit of discussion going here !

I know one person that did it, he enjoyed it. He's in Saint Petersburg now on placement for his MSc and he did Erasmus during his undergrad (Salamanca). It's tough going but a good course. Full of 'rugger buggers' and 'rugger huggers' from the last time I was in Quinn...

Hoku

Take a European language (or Chinese!) with that and you'll get to spend ~10 months abroad for Erasmus. The year abroad is compulsory for BCIT, while an opportunity for BComm.

In BCIT you'll be in the same lectures as the BComm (for the most part) anyway. At least for the first year anyway - you can only take so many subjects per semester, and in each one you'll have a language and a literature module to go along with the business side of things, so it might appear as if you're slightly lagging behind the BComm.

Lucet

They're changing the curriculum for BComm students from this September. It's not completely different from what it is now, but there are some changes

I'm doing commerce, it's quite a good course, not too hard, but there are some modules you will have to put a lot of effort in if you want to do great (economics, finance, accounting).
Teamwork and presentations are daily routine for BComm students, especially in first year, we didn't have much of presentations this year.

_Bella_

^^ Do you happen to know if those changes apply to b&l?

RMD

In BComm Int do they take 2 of the commerce modules out of the course each year to facilitate the language modules or is the same amount of commerce modules and then the extra 2 language modules on top of that? Out of curiosity, anyone doing Commerce + Chinese and if so how are you finding it?

Pandoras Twist

Im in final year of Commerce.

It was an enjoyable course, more so than I thought it would be. The only argument I have is that it has too many management modules when most people end up specialising in Accountancy, then Marketing and then Finance. This doesnt really seem to be rectified by the new system.

Its easy to do ok in. Its hard to do very well in (by very well I would be talking about a GPA of over 3.75 which is at the higher end of an A- average)

Hoku

@RMD: Two commerce are taken out each semester to facilitate the language, yes. All in all, BComm Int might not be quite as extensive in terms of commerce knowledge depth.

Can't comment about the chinese programme though. A friend does it and he's really enjoying the course, but I suppose he's used to learning new languages - he speaks perfectly fluent french, german and english.

LetsThinkBIG

Not to sound completely malevolent; confident are we?

540 points in the mocks.. Confident am I.


I currently take business for leaving cert and find that it is dum dum boring, point blank obvious bureaucratic dung. But i do like business, mini-companies and the like.

Will i find the BComm a real world applicable and interesting business degree or will it be the same leaving cert crap in more detail.



The bcomm with chinese .. Chinese ... Im tempted .. Anybody got experience with mandarin to tell me how hard/easy pick up able is it?

Rosita

LetsThinkBIG wrote: »

Will i find the BComm a real world applicable and interesting business degree or will it be the same leaving cert crap in more detail.

I won't commment on the BComm as I never did it, but I think you'd be best to stop thinking about education in terms of 'real world applicable' as you'll be disappointed. You'll only rarely have a day where the bells ring and you can directly link what you have done in a course to something practical where all the magic phrases crop up.

Education is ultimately about ideas, skills and ways of thinking. You need to make the practical connection yourself as you go rather than expect it to be made for you. I'm a great believer in the old saw that education is what's left after you've forgotten everything you learned.

Pandoras Twist

LetsThinkBIG wrote: »

540 points in the mocks.. Confident am I.


I currently take business for leaving cert and find that it is dum dum boring, point blank obvious bureaucratic dung. But i do like business, mini-companies and the like.

Will i find the BComm a real world applicable and interesting business degree or will it be the same leaving cert crap in more detail.



The bcomm with chinese .. Chinese ... Im tempted .. Anybody got experience with mandarin to tell me how hard/easy pick up able is it?

If you specialise in accountancy its very real world applicable. Commerce gives you exemptions from the first set of Accountancy exams. Finance is also very relevant if you chose to go down that route.

The management modules are all quite like business studies done in more detail, but they're all right to get through.

LetsThinkBIG

I'm a great believer in the old saw that education is what's left after you've forgotten everything you learned

Continue to hit me with your wiseness, repeatedly, please.

Rosita

LetsThinkBIG wrote: »

Continue to hit me with your wiseness, repeatedly, please.

How could I possibly come back from such a withering put-down!

P.S I take it then you've moved on from your opening 'I'd love to get a bit of discussion going here' position?

Powerhouse

LetsThinkBIG wrote: »

Continue to hit me with your wiseness, repeatedly, please.

It must be frustrating to still be a schoolkid when you know it all already. The future is bright though I'm sure...you appear to have the makings of a particularly insufferable 'Ents Officer'. :eek:

LetsThinkBIG

Powerhouse wrote: »

It must be frustrating to still be a schoolkid when you know it all already. The future is bright though I'm sure...you appear to have the makings of a particularly insufferable 'Ents Officer'. :eek:

indeed i do

A hole

califorNia

Rosita wrote: »

I won't commment on the BComm as I never did it, but I think you'd be best to stop thinking about education in terms of 'real world applicable' as you'll be disappointed. You'll only rarely have a day where the bells ring and you can directly link what you have done in a course to something practical where all the magic phrases crop up.

Education is ultimately about ideas, skills and ways of thinking. You need to make the practical connection yourself as you go rather than expect it to be made for you. I'm a great believer in the old saw that education is what's left after you've forgotten everything you learned.

As someone who did BComm and ended up at Big 4, I think this post hit the nail on the head. There is very very little that I learnt during my time at Quinn School that I use nowadays.

Honestly, I felt it was a huge waste of my time to do that degree and if I could go back in time I would! It serves only as padding on my CV like "yes I was willing to waste 3 years of my life in order to impress you"

(when I say it was a huge waste of time, I am referring to the subject matter rather than students/lecturers - almost everyone I befriended during my time on the course were great people)