A new form of diving?

stevoslice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsEbf-o83fc

Tusky

Disgusting. Worse than diving. He should get a long ban.

Pauleta

Interesting, very clever

Kold

I just can't help but admire that innovation.

Handsome Bob

Lol, it's like something out of a Harry Enfield skit.

stevoslice

its definitely up there with the headbutt dive for inventiveness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff7RPnWRkIE

Is it something to start worrying about, good job joe jordan is a bit tougher than that guy, otherwise the situation in the san siro last week could have been... interesting.

BeanFlicker

haha brilliant, he must of lost a bet,

he should copyright that

Dempsey

It might work at a junior match but when there are half a dozen tv cameras in the stadium you are bound to be caught out. Long ban & fine

ShamoBuc

That is seriously funny!

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Remind me of the GAA players that hold onto their markers hands as they're running so it looks like they're getting pulled. Very clever indeed.

SlickRic

genius.

oh, and it brings back some memories...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVksdN4QnvA

astrofool

Where's Drogba launching himself over another player?

Blatter

Anyone remember Makelele getting Zikos sent off in the CL semi against Monaco 2004?
Was one of the worst i've seen. Can't find a clip of it.

stevoslice

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

Anyone remember Makelele getting Zikos sent off in the CL semi against Monaco 2004?
Was one of the worst i've seen. Can't find a clip of it.

I think I'll remember Slaven Bilic's dive in the SF of the 1998 World Cup to get Laurent Blanc sent off as the most cynical dive I've ever seen. It was a blatant attempt at getting a player sent off, which worked, and so Blanc missed France's finest hour, what a cnut.

Don't get me wrong, Blanc was not totally innocent, and may well have been sent off without the diving and theatrics, but a WC SF is not the place for gamesmanship imo.

Dolph Starbeam

Haha that was brilliant, you kind of have to admire it.

Mars Bar

It reminded me of this picture.



It's not exactly the same but it's still funny!

bonerm

Por Favor Caroca! Spectaculaarrrrrrrrr!

Gillington

Anyone else thinking of trying this in their next match!?

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Gillington wrote: »

Anyone else thinking of trying this in their next match!?

No! The shít refs in Ireland wouldn't call something like that even if yer man did elbow ya properly!

Pro. F

Football is in such a sorry state. It's infuriating that this nonsense hasn't been eradicated.

srfc19

thebhoy wrote: »

I think I'll remember Slaven Bilic's dive in the SF of the 1998 World Cup to get Laurent Blanc sent off as the most cynical dive I've ever seen. It was a blatant attempt at getting a player sent off, which worked, and so Blanc missed France's finest hour, what a cnut.

Don't get me wrong, Blanc was not totally innocent, and may well have been sent off without the diving and theatrics, but a WC SF is not the place for gamesmanship imo.

It's exactly the place for gamesmanship. Any player would do anything to qualify for a WC Final.
I'd have done exactly what Billic did, and I'd reckon that regardless of what anyone says, in the heat of the moment they would too.

seadnamac

srfc19 wrote: »

It's exactly the place for gamesmanship. Any player would do anything to qualify for a WC Final.
I'd have done exactly what Billic did, and I'd reckon that regardless of what anyone says, in the heat of the moment they would too.

You disgust me. Genuinely.

stevoslice

srfc19 wrote: »

It's exactly the place for gamesmanship. Any player would do anything to qualify for a WC Final.
I'd have done exactly what Billic did, and I'd reckon that regardless of what anyone says, in the heat of the moment they would too.

yeah and if i recall lillian thuram made a mistake for croatia to take the lead, and then proceeded to play one of the greatest games of his life to drag france into the final, scoring 2 goals in the process. i think thats how i'd like to behave in a WC SF!

srfc19

Obviously thats how everyone would like to play. But players take advantage of situations rightly or wrongly.
Don't get me wrong, I've been playing football for years and I have never dived in my life, but if somebody hits me in the face in a World Cup Semi I'd be down on the deck as well.

Eirebear

seadnamac wrote: »

You disgust me. Genuinely.

Thats an awfully high horse your on there fella. Genuinely.

Whilst i dont condone diving in any way shape or form, players have ALWAYS tried to gain advantage over their opposite number by any means possible.

Maradonna's "Hand Of God", Joe Jordan handling the ball to win a penalty against Wales, right through to Thierry Henry against Ireland are all examples.

Watch players at set pieces, standing on eachothers toes, whispering in eachothers ears, grabbing the hairs on the back of your opponents legs.

In the 60'70' and 80's football was a much more physical sport than it is now, and "hatchet men" type players used to get away with some brutal challenges, this led to a push to eradicate that side of the game.
Unfortunately it went too far, and a footballer has more chance of actually winning the decision if he goes down "easy" than being punished for diving.

Footballers will do what they have to do, they always have and always will.

OhNoYouDidn't

Didn't some Rangers defender try and do this with / to John Hartson in a Glasgow derby about 5 years ago?

Ended up with a very sore face and a yellow card.

OhNoYouDidn't

seadnamac wrote: »

You disgust me. Genuinely.

Ballet forum thataway chap --->

Pro. F

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Ballet forum thataway chap --->

He's the disgusting by the diving and feigning injury. Surely it would be more a appropriate to direct him to the Rugby forum or similar.

I don't have a problem with the principle of players trying everything to succeed in their sport. It's always going to happen. The problem is when the sport fails to deal with it. Because of the inept governing bodies we all have to have our time wasted by watching grown men writhing around on the ground in agony when nothing has happened to them. Diving and feigning injury should have been dealt with with suitable punishments years ago. We fans are all suffering because it hasn't.

seadnamac

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Ballet forum thataway chap --->

I'm afraid that doesn't make any sense, chap.

Eirebear wrote: »

Thats an awfully high horse your on there fella. Genuinely.

Whilst i dont condone diving in any way shape or form, players have ALWAYS tried to gain advantage over their opposite number by any means possible.

Maradonna's "Hand Of God", Joe Jordan handling the ball to win a penalty against Wales, right through to Thierry Henry against Ireland are all examples.

Watch players at set pieces, standing on eachothers toes, whispering in eachothers ears, grabbing the hairs on the back of your opponents legs.

In the 60'70' and 80's football was a much more physical sport than it is now, and "hatchet men" type players used to get away with some brutal challenges, this led to a push to eradicate that side of the game.
Unfortunately it went too far, and a footballer has more chance of actually winning the decision if he goes down "easy" than being punished for diving.

Footballers will do what they have to do, they always have and always will.

And? What has this got to do with my opinion? I know it happens, top marks for stating the obvious. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

Pro. F wrote: »

He's the disgusting by the diving and feigning injury. Surely it would be more a appropriate to direct him to the Rugby forum or similar.

I don't have a problem with the principle of players trying everything to succeed in their sport. It's always going to happen. The problem is when the sport fails to deal with it. Because of the inept governing bodies we all have to have our time wasted by watching grown men writhing around on the ground in agony when nothing has happened to them. Diving and feigning injury should have been dealt with with suitable punishments years ago. We fans are all suffering because it hasn't.

Agreed. Due to the reluctance of those in charge to put a stop to cheating like this, as would be done in any other sport, we are left in a situation where people like the original guy I responded to have been conditioned to accept it as part of the game and to make excuses for it. People claim not to condone it but blatantly are.