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  • Registered Users Posts: 957 ✭✭✭GrizzlyMan




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 freefone


    Those who spend their money on rubbish will go to ALDI - much cheaper jar food, than Tescos!
    But regards their stock - i know what i want and they do have better assortment comparing with others. I dont know why Dunnes etc dont sell 1 litre fresh cream. And Tescos were first to sell 3 ltr milk. Tesco's flour (cheap one) is better than LIDL's and ALDI's for bread, cakes etc. (honestly im making a lot of our bread in breadmaker and tescos cheap flour works as good as Oldums expensive).

    Im not one-stop byer - i get certain things in health shops (where roasted nuts are cheaper and nicer and seed selection better), get noodles and stuff for sushi in chinese shops; sour cream, seasoning, treats in EEuropean shops and fruits&veggies in farmers market. If i would love some magazine that much to buy every day, i would subscribe and that would be cheaper.

    I dont see where is problem - if people would hate Tesco, they wouldnt shop there.
    I know only overcharging local shops who went busted. But those who were for customers, still doing great business. Where i live, there are 4 garages (may be more, but those are in 2 mile distance), at least 8 groceries/newsagents, 2 drycleaners, not mentioning hairdressers etc (and thats on 6 k people!), 2 butchers, seafood shop, healtfood shop. But they arent really competing with each other as they all specialises in something besides regular stuff - in one shop they sell specialist magazines, other offers repairs, third has butchers, fourth supports local producers and so on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 freefone


    Regards staff treatment - i personally know people working in Dunnes (very happy, not huge salary, but guaranteed hours and thats very important), ALDI (small salary, but nice attitude from managers, but cant have as many hours as would like to), LIDL (friend of mine started from nothing and become manager, good salary, but not too family friendly hours).
    Tesco is only shop from mentioned, where i have seen special needs people employed. And SuperValu (as well as small local shops) is second chain shop (first Tesco) where i have seen teenagers employed, not only trough summer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    ColHol wrote: »
    Theyre only successful because people shop there. They dont take places by force, there are other options but people obviously use tesco for a variety of different reasons.
    Tescos are doing more than wiping out local shops they're wiping out quality and fairness. The pressure they put on suppliers mean the supplier makes next to nothing and have to reduce the quality of life for animals and workers.

    They are actively encouraging the race to the bottom where quality is at a bare minimum for maximum profit. I don't find they're own brand stuff even passable, I don't find them all that cheap (I've found cheaper stuff in my local eurospar).

    I always seriously question buying cheap now the novelty has completely worn off for me as I'll only end up throwing the cheap thing away or buying so many replacements I would have been better off buying the expensive quality product in the first place.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭barryd09


    Theres a good docu called - walmart:the high cost of the low price.
    Worth a watch!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭rebel10


    freefone wrote: »
    Those who spend their money on rubbish will go to ALDI - much cheaper jar food, than Tescos!
    But regards their stock - i know what i want and they do have better assortment comparing with others. I dont know why Dunnes etc dont sell 1 litre fresh cream. And Tescos were first to sell 3 ltr milk. Tesco's flour (cheap one) is better than LIDL's and ALDI's for bread, cakes etc. (honestly im making a lot of our bread in breadmaker and tescos cheap flour works as good as Oldums expensive).

    Im not one-stop byer - i get certain things in health shops (where roasted nuts are cheaper and nicer and seed selection better), get noodles and stuff for sushi in chinese shops; sour cream, seasoning, treats in EEuropean shops and fruits&veggies in farmers market.
    I would love to have you cook for me!:o You sound like someone who would do a really nice dinner! Sushi, yum yum.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,616 ✭✭✭maninasia


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Tescos are doing more than wiping out local shops they're wiping out quality and fairness. The pressure they put on suppliers mean the supplier makes next to nothing and have to reduce the quality of life for animals and workers.

    They are actively encouraging the race to the bottom where quality is at a bare minimum for maximum profit. I don't find they're own brand stuff even passable, I don't find them all that cheap (I've found cheaper stuff in my local eurospar).

    I always seriously question buying cheap now the novelty has completely worn off for me as I'll only end up throwing the cheap thing away or buying so many replacements I would have been better off buying the expensive quality product in the first place.


    There is always a trade-off to everything. Even in Tescos they will have various brands for the same product, you take your pick. You have to check the packaging, the content of the food aswell as the pricing. You have to factor in the time involved to purchase and the overall hassle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    maninasia wrote: »
    There is always a trade-off to everything. Even in Tescos they will have various brands for the same product, you take your pick. You have to check the packaging, the content of the food aswell as the pricing. You have to factor in the time involved to purchase and the overall hassle.
    All products sold in Tescos where sourced aggressively. Their business model will always mean a degradation in food quality. People these days are so removed from the food production process they don't feel it's important but food is important, it's the most important product.

    I don't shop in tescos because I know it doesn't matter which product I pick off the self as they all are contributing towards a monopoly that will effect everyone negatively in the long run.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Never heard of them, must have popped up overnight. :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,616 ✭✭✭maninasia


    ScumLord wrote: »
    All products sold in Tescos where sourced aggressively. Their business model will always mean a degradation in food quality. People these days are so removed from the food production process they don't feel it's important but food is important, it's the most important product.

    I don't shop in tescos because I know it doesn't matter which product I pick off the self as they all are contributing towards a monopoly that will effect everyone negatively in the long run.

    I agree but that's a consumer choice and there ARE other choices. It's up to the suppliers to make their choice too, will they accept the bottom price to sell in Tesco but also having to lower their quality. When there are only one or two big supermarkets then you could argue there is no choice.
    Food quality is important, it's consumer education on this point that is lacking, still Ireland is still in much better shape than the UK on this point (more independent bakeries, butchers, food suppliers, restaurants and pubs, let's hope it doesn't go down the UK route too quickly).
    In the US there are several wholefoods stores that do a huge business. In Asia there are many organic retailers too, pay a bit more and you get better stuff.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,058 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    I wonder if Tesco will start doing cheap laser eye surgery.


    Yes, they do a DIY value range consisting of a mirror and a laser for €5.

    I see that for about €11, you can also get a dental repair kit, so that you fill your own teeth, glue bits on, and generally become an expert in cosmetic dentistry. A fuckin bargain!


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    maninasia wrote: »
    I agree but that's a consumer choice and there ARE other choices. It's up to the suppliers to make their choice too, will they accept the bottom price to sell in Tesco but also having to lower their quality. When there are only one or two big supermarkets then you could argue there is no choice.
    It's not really that simple though, markets dictate what suppliers and customers charge and pay. Tescos is quickly controlling the market where suppliers have no choice they ether sell to tescos or don't sell at all. In a monetary economy customers may have no choice but to buy the cheapest product, while the option is there it's not going to be taken. While there are other companies out there to offer some competition to Tescos the only way they can compete is to be like tescos so there really is no choice.

    Companies like Tescos will run rampant they have no moral compass, it's not their faul;t it's just the nature of the global economy but all they care about is money at the end of the day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,058 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    ScumLord wrote: »
    It's not really that simple though, markets dictate what suppliers and customers charge and pay. Tescos is quickly controlling the market where suppliers have no choice they ether sell to tescos or don't sell at all. In a monetary economy customers may have no choice but to buy the cheapest product, while the option is there it's not going to be taken. While there are other companies out there to offer some competition to Tescos the only way they can compete is to be like tescos so there really is no choice.

    Companies like Tescos will run rampant they have no moral compass, it's not their faul;t it's just the nature of the global economy but all they care about is money at the end of the day.

    I think that all companies would get away with murder if they could do it, and their PR people would persuade everyone that the company was doing them all a huge favour.


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