Circa €800 PC Build....

sink

adam111111 wrote: »

do you reckon if i keep the cpu and get this motherboard : http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43855&agid=1601 and add a 2gb ram stick . this will fix the problem ?

Yes and I would also dump the graphics card as that motherboard will allow you to use the CPU's integrated graphics. Altough that motherboard is probably overkill for you.

This one is a cut down version that will be in stock on the 23rd. It has fewer expansion slots but otherwise would perform the same. If you are not planing on adding in any expansion cards I would go with this and save €35.

ASUS P8H67-M Rev 3.0, Sockel 1155, mATX, DDR3 - €87.23
http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44134&agid=1603

and here is the single stick of 2GB that matches the 3 you already bought.

2GB TakeMS DDR3-1333/10667 CL9 - €17.43
http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=38649&agid=1192

IrishMetalhead

that moitherboard son't have onboard video as does all p67 boards so you will need a graphics card for it if you don't want to wait for the h67 boards to come back into stock you should consider a amd hex-core with a 880 chipset mobo instead or go with that p67 board as 1156 is why too much of a downgrade

adam111111

sink wrote: »

Yes and I would also dump the graphics card as that motherboard will allow you to use the CPU's integrated graphics. Altough that motherboard is probably overkill for you.

This one is a cut down version that will be in stock on the 23rd. It has fewer expansion slots but otherwise would perform the same. If you are not planing on adding in any expansion cards I would go with this and save €35.

ASUS P8H67-M Rev 3.0, Sockel 1155, mATX, DDR3 - €87.23
http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44134&agid=1603

and here is the single stick of 2GB that matches the 3 you already bought.

2GB TakeMS DDR3-1333/10667 CL9 - €17.43
http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=38649&agid=1192

thanx a lot for your help i will get in touch with the german site and notify them right now of these changes . have a good weekend . i will keep u updated .

adam111111

IrishMetalhead wrote: »

that moitherboard son't have onboard video as does all p67 boards so you will need a graphics card for it if you don't want to wait for the h67 boards to come back into stock you should consider a amd hex-core with a 880 chipset mobo instead or go with that p67 board as 1156 is why too much of a downgrade

i'm looking at the site right now, all the motherboards (below €100) with lga 1155 socket r out of stock , as i cant wait that long i need the computer up & runing very soon . i will have to go with the Asus p8h67-m and keep the graphic card ??? is this a good fix !

IrishMetalhead

???
the p8h67-m has onboard graphics and dosn't need a graphics card
and i thaught that was out of stock also =S
I was going to recommend the p8p67 with the graphics card because it dosn't have onboard graphics support, only if your looking to spend that little extra

adam111111

IrishMetalhead wrote: »

???
the p8h67-m has onboard graphics and dosn't need a graphics card
and i thaught that was out of stock also =S
I was going to recommend the p8p67 with the graphics card because it dosn't have onboard graphics support, only if your looking to spend that little extra

i think the german site is not respondin well , may be on monday they will update their stock & and we will see what they have .
i think they will have the money bu Tuesday or Wednesday , so i have till monday to make my final decision !!! so if i want to do some serious video editing or photoshop work or gamin a bit , i wont need a graphic card !! the motherboard is enough ???

IrishMetalhead

well dpends on what games you have in mind but more than likely nah if you want to do abit of gaming then onboard graphics is completely out of the question to be fair i didn't know you were intending to do abit of gaming on it sorry for the slight confusion =/

sink

adam111111 wrote: »

i think the german site is not respondin well , may be on monday they will update their stock & and we will see what they have .
i think they will have the money bu Tuesday or Wednesday , so i have till monday to make my final decision !!! so if i want to do some serious video editing or photoshop work or gamin a bit , i wont need a graphic card !! the motherboard is enough ???

The CPU & Mobo alone will be able to do photo & video editing just as well with or without a discrete graphics card. The integrated graphics of the sandy bridge CPU has been designed precisely for such purposes and is actually better than the most powerful discrete graphics cards.

However it's not great for gaming, you will still be able to play modern game on the lowest settings at a low resolution, but don't expect much. The card you had chosen (HD 5670) will be quiet a bit better but is still underpowered if you plan on playing the latest DX11 games (Crysis 2, Battlefield 3) for a card that would really be able to handle these games you should spend a bit more and go for a HD 5770.

Powercolor HD5770 1024MB GDDR5 - €101
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30583&agid=1004

seyeM

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=71104345&postcount=23 :pac:

adam111111

thanx all 4 your great help

i got in touch with the german site and they were very helpful , they told me i can modify my order as i wish (this due to the fact that i already sent the money & i dont want lose more time by resendin or waitin for a part), and they will send me everything together , the problem is i cant make up my mind , and them not having lga1155 mobo in stock is not helpin , is there a difference between mobo lga1155 and lga1156 , if not i think i will change the cpu to i5 lga1156 to suit a new mobo lga1156 , is that a downgrade or still the same thing ? i'm realy confused .if yes what do you think of the parts i assembled , are they compatible !! please see the attached image .or can anyone suggest any combination of parts for €578 ??? with graphics card included .
if i want lga1155 i have to wait until mid next month , as u all know whats goin on with intel .... but for lga1156 they have them in stock now ?

sink

LGA 1156 is used by the last generation of intel core processors. They're roughly ~15% slower clock for clock than the new LGA1155 generation depending on what your doing. For games the difference can be has high as 30% for encoding audio or file compression it could only be 5%. The older generation are less efficient (i.e. they use more power per clock) and also generate more heat (bad if you plan to overclock).

They have not yet come down that much in price to reflect their lower performance compared to the latest processor, basically if you buy one you will be getting less value for money, on the other hand you can have one immediately. So really the question you have to ask youself is do you want it immediately? if so go for LGA1156. Or do you want the best bang for your buck? if so wait for the LGA1155. Only you can answer this question.

Monotype

Right...
Take out case (34.78)
board (131.20)
CPU (179.67)
Total = 345.65

Get...
H67 board (96.79)
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43756
Proper PSU 450W SF amazon (40.44)
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30074
i5-2500K (181.11)
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41224)
Asgard case (31.51)
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28607

Total = 349.85

Hmm... that's a pretty expensive 5670. There's ones for as low as €62, saving you €20 (or saving €10 with 1GB versions, but the chances are that you won't see a huge difference).

At least that's what I think. Don't rush out to press the buy trigger again before you get a few opinions.

Monotype

Looking at the earlier post, is the cap €557.41 excluding shipping?

https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/296490/152151.JPG

adam111111

hi there

thanx for the clarification in regard to the lga 1156 , i think it will b wise to wait and get the 1155 , sorry i forgot about the shipping cost , that is why i was addin a webcam , i had about €30 extra & i couldn't figure out from where it came !!!
about the cpu what do you reckon is the best i5 (available in the german site ) !! for video editin & encoding !!
thanx

Monotype

The 2500K.

... although it would be better with a P67 board, but it's still good with a H67 motherboard.

adam111111

Monotype wrote: »

The 2500K.

... although it would be better with a P67 board, but it's still good with a H67 motherboard.

please have a look at the combination i came up with this time , i went for a gigabyte mobo . it is b3 ,hopefully no problems there . for me the order seems ok this time ,but i was wrong many times before

good night

IrishMetalhead

*ALARMS*

NEVER NEVER BUY A CASE\PSU COMBO!

Seriously it's for your own good those psu's you get with those cases don't last at all espiecally if your trying to run a dedicated graphics card.

Case\PSU combos have always been a big no no on this thread

adam111111

IrishMetalhead wrote: »

*ALARMS*

NEVER NEVER BUY A CASE\PSU COMBO!

Seriously it's for your own good those psu's you get with those cases don't last at all espiecally if your trying to run a dedicated graphics card.

Case\PSU combos have always been a big no no on this thread

you know i thought about that , thats why i will keep few things from my old computer such as dvd drive , power supply ,case , just in case something goes wrong . they still have life in them .size wise the case is not too small ???? if i have to buy seprate case & psu i will have to rethink the entire order:o. any comments about the motherboard .
thanx for the advice mate .

Monotype

If you get rid of the webcam and the case you'd have enough for a €30 case and the amazon 450W PSU.

The motherboard looks fine for a H67 board. At least you know that it is compatible.
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3768#sp
It has all the nice extras like USB 3. Interestingly it does not have any PCI slots, the first board that I've seen/noticed that doesn't (apart from mini-itx), so I hope that you don't plan on using any PCI cards.

Edit: Actually, you'll be a couple of euro short still. Can you pick a cheaper 5670?

adam111111

Monotype wrote: »

If you get rid of the webcam and the case you'd have enough for a €30 case and the amazon 450W PSU.

The motherboard looks fine for a H67 board. At least you know that it is compatible.
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3768#sp
It has all the nice extras like USB 3. Interestingly it does not have any PCI slots, the first board that I've seen/noticed that doesn't (apart from mini-itx), so I hope that you don't plan on using any PCI cards.

Edit: Actually, you'll be a couple of euro short still. Can you pick a cheaper 5670?

you are reading my mind , thats what i will do , initially i went for separate case and psu then i had to re-organise myself , so i was left with spare money ,which explain the webcam presence in the order, now i will go back to my first plan . talkin about pci , the graphics card is PCI Express 2.1 and all the mobo pci e slots r PCI Express 2.0 . is that another problem
i was planing on placin the order tomorow !!!

good night everyone

IrishMetalhead

no thats not a problem at all a pci-e 2.1 card will indeed work with a pci-e 2.0 slot.
BTW if your looking for a good 5670 i'd highly suggest this:

http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43690&agid=1004

it's the second cheapest 5670 on site plus it factory overclocked i thaught it would of been a no brainer tbh

adam111111

IrishMetalhead wrote: »

no thats not a problem at all a pci-e 2.1 card will indeed work with a pci-e 2.0 slot.
BTW if your looking for a good 5670 i'd highly suggest this:

http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43690&agid=1004

it's the second cheapest 5670 on site plus it factory overclocked i thaught it would of been a no brainer tbh

i was gonna add it to my basket but is not in stock i have to keep looking . i will go for a simple graphics card as long as it is 1024mb ddr3 ! i have to finish this order today no matter what will happen thanx everyone for your rich advices & great help .

Monotype

There's a load of 5670s cheaper than your original one. Just type in 5670 into the search bar.

IrishMetalhead

damn they went quick they were only in stock last night when i posted the links =S

adam111111

hi there

today i got the delivery , everything was fine ,but when i was trying to connect the dvd burner i found out that the mobo has no IDE connection only SATA !!!

http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43777&agid=282

http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43761&agid=1603

i'm sure there's some sort of an adaptor or cable to solve this problem . but where can i find it in dublin and what it is called ???

thanx a lot

IrishMetalhead

sorry to sound like an asshole but i have to ask why did you spend alot more money on a ide dvd+rw when teh sata ones are alot faster and cheaper? =S

sink

So long as you haven't ripped or disposed of the packaging and the item is unused and in the same condition as you bought it you should be able to return it.

If they're going to charge you €30 to post a replacement SATA drive it would be cheaper to buy from another retailer either online or local.

adam111111

i was thinking of gettin new one from here (ireland) after all the posting charges will be very expensive . and i can get a dvd drive for less that €30 .

the new problem now is the power , there is no power at all , i tried to change the cables ,and connections but still nothing is happening !!! with or without hard drive . or dvd burner !!!! what should i do ?

adam111111

there is a port in the mobo with 8 pins , but in the power supply cables i have no 8pins , i have 6 or 4 and the cables for sata connections !!!! so there is only one power connection from the power supply to the mobo , when i turn on the computer the power supply fan works also the cpu fan , but for a split second ,and that's it !! where is the problem here !!!! please help

sink

That is for your CPU power, it's pretty essential. The connector for it can take the form of two four pin connectors that clip together.