Summer Transfer Gossip

White Heart Loon

Pageant Messiah wrote: »

Reports now quoting AVB saying no bid has been made by us for Willian.

Nonsense, I watched the interview, he refused to comment

Pacing Mule

White Heart Loon wrote: »

Nonsense, I watched the interview, he refused to comment

It was from

http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/football/avb_gives_tottenham_transfer_update_and_responds_to_willian_rumours_1_2343599

that I read it. (which I had been linked to from elsewhere) Didn't see the actual interview myself.

Pacing Mule

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PUbY-9lZ6k

Well this is ambiguous.

Did he say no in response to the can you tell me question ?

Or did he say no as in no bid made.

White Heart Loon

No he would not comment, you need to see the full interview. He went on to say he would not comment and that he had spoken about the player before and had nothing to add

2nd Row Donkey

Bale is gone and you know what, its not that bad after all. Could have effected the team much worse.

Willian would be great but we need another striker asap. If Soldado missed 2 months wuth an injury we'd be snookered.

White Heart Loon

Gianluca Di Marzio ✔ @dimarzio

Scott #Parker (@SpursOfficial) had his medical today with @FulhamFC, now he'll sign the contract. No more @OfficialQPR. #footballtransfers

pancho84

I think €30m for William is steep but at the same time we need a proper no. 10, haven't had one since VDV, I still think Siggy is developing as a player but to move up a gear we need a word class no 10 - I know bale has been playing at 10 but he's not playing the role of a 10 in its true manner in playing the key passes behind defences like a hazard, cazorla, fabergas etc type player

Bobeagleburger

pancho84 wrote: »

I think €30m for William is steep but at the same time we need a proper no. 10, haven't had one since VDV, I still think Siggy is developing as a player but to move up a gear we need a word class no 10 - I know bale has been playing at 10 but he's not playing the role of a 10 in its true manner in playing the key passes behind defences like a hazard, cazorla, fabergas etc type player

Isn't Willian more of a winger than a no 10 though?

White Heart Loon

According to SSN we have moved ahead as favourites to sign Willian

pancho84

He plays both central and wide left, I'd personally like to see him play in the hole behind striker

White Heart Loon

@RichWman
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#Roma tell #Lamela that if #Spurs come in with €30m offer then they will sell them. #Garcia wants to keep #Pjanic.

From a guy who is an Italian football commentator apparently. I'd prefer Lamela to Willian tbh, he's younger, looks like he will be better in time.

White Heart Loon

Tottenham Hotspur @SpursOfficial 3s
We have reached agreement with Fulham for the transfer of Scott Parker. #THFC pic.twitter.com/mjkOp1Svpn

White Heart Loon

Someone should post this in the pool thread

Willian should reject Liverpool and sign for potential title contenders Tottenham

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...lian-should-reject-liverpool-transfer-2188661

nipps

scotty to fulham done according to ssn.

had a great debut season with us, wish him well

White Heart Loon

nipps wrote: »

scotty to fulham done according to ssn.

had a great debut season with us, wish him well

2 posts up, it's official

White Heart Loon

Good article

Player Focus: Why Erik Lamela Or Willian Would Be A Good Signing For Spurs

http://www.whoscored.com/Blog/lridxpalhksunr-lpit0ka/Show/Player-Focus-Why-Erik-Lamela-Or-Willian-Would-Be-A-Good-Signing-For-Spurs

DyldeBrill

White Heart Loon wrote: »

2 posts up, it's official

He just never got over that injury and found himself a bit off the pace coming back. Hope he plays a blinder at Fulham (just not against us).

Here Precious2

DyldeBrill wrote: »

He just never got over that injury and found himself a bit off the pace coming back. Hope he plays a blinder at Fulham (just not against us).

Hope Parker plays a blinder next saturday morning against the scum from next door. For that matter hope Berba and Bent have blinders as well:D

Can't believe Scotty turned down his No.1 fan....the lure of the Premiership I suppose.

White Heart Loon

There's talk in Italy of Lamelas entourage coming to London tomorrow to talk to club

White Heart Loon

@dimarzio: Update on @willianborges88: #anzhi wants more than 30£ offered by @LFC and @SpursOfficial. And ask him to give back 5£ received at the sign

DyldeBrill

White Heart Loon wrote: »

There's talk in Italy of Lamelas entourage coming to London tomorrow to talk to club

hope to god its true! The lad is top drawer!

tippspur

Best of luck to Scott Parker,I always thought he was a good one.He done well for us.

Herrick

Any word on whether we've taken our interest up a notch in Christian Eriksen and Toby Alderweireld of Ajax?

Eriksen looks like a very good player and with a centre defender needed Alderweireld could be the answer, along with already having played alongside Vert before he left Ajax for us.

White Heart Loon

It has been largely assumed that Spurs would have to sell Bale and would not be able to resist an 85 million pound offer from Real Madrid. Daniel Levy is now seen as just holding out to get a better deal from Madrid. But when analyzing Spurs past transfer history and the current dynamics of the market, it becomes clear that Spurs are most likely not bluffing. They want to keep Bale and have no intention of selling Bale this summer for anything less than an absurd 100+ million pounds. And Spurs are exactly right in their approach. Bale is worth more to Spurs in 2013-14 than 85 million pounds.
Importantly, this doesn’t mean Bale is worth more than 85 million pounds. Bale is an asset. And just like any property, just because someone offers you a huge amount for your house doesn’t mean it makes sense to sell. Timing matters and the timing doesn’t make sense here.
But what about Spurs spending?
One reason to think Bale is on his way is that Spurs are spending likely drunken sailors – only Manchester City in the EPL has spent more this season. The logic goes that poor Spurs can’t afford this, so they must already be using the money they plan to get for Bale now. But there are reasons to doubt this.
As the transfer history shows, Spurs have money. But until this summer, Spurs haven’t really spent considerably since Harry Redknapp’s first two years. Look at the last 8-9 years of transfer activity:
2013-14 (-47 mil euros net): Spurs have spent 69 million euros (Paulinho, Soldaldo, Capoue, Chadli) and sold 22 million
2012-13 (-4 mil): Spurs last year spent 72 mil euros and sold 68 million euros
2011-12 (+36 mil): (Redknapp’s last season), Spurs spent just 6 mill euros (Scott Parker) and sold 42 million euros.
2010-2011 (-23 mil): spent 26 million, and sold just 3 million.
09-10 (-9 mil): spent 40 and sold 31.
08-09 (-50 mil): This was the year Spurs sold Berbatov and Keane (2 pts, 8 games) and then got Redknapp and had to panic buy in the January window, Spurs spent 140 mill and sold 90 mil
07-08 (-72 mil): 94 spent (Bent, Bale), 22 mil sold
06-07 (-23 mil): 61 spent (Berbatov), 38 mil sold
05-06 (-14 mil): 36 spent, 22 mil sold.
Over the last 8 years (excluding this summer), Spurs have spent an average of 20 million euros more per season than they have sold. But if you don’t count the last two seasons Spurs were spending 30 million euros more per season than selling for the 6 seasons between 2005 and 2011. But the past two seasons Spurs have been a selling club netting 32 million euros. So if Spurs could maintain spending at 30 million per season for the six years prior to 2011-2012 than Tottenham have likely been banking revenue the past two seasons.
This means that not only do Spurs have the 32 million euros they have netted the past two seasons, but likely are capable of spending an additional 60 million from a lack of spending. In other words, Spurs have not spent their transfer allotment the past two years. That would equate to Spurs being able to afford to spend about 90 million euros net. Hence, despite already having a net outflow of 47 million euros this window, Spurs should have about an additional 30-40 million euros more they could spend, given the lack of spending the past two years. This is what makes Tottenham’s bid for Willan and others financially viable. Furthermore, if Spurs plan on selling Bale next season, they can count on likely being in the black in terms of spending, likely making them more willing to push their spending limit.
Lastly, my guess is that part of the agreement in keeping AVB at Spurs (he turned down Real and PSG) is that he will be given the resources to compete. This current rate of spending is probably part of that deal. So Spurs spending could easily be disconnected from any Bale sale.
But still why not sell at 85 million pounds – a Premier League record?
First, Spurs will increase their chances at qualifying for Champions League. With Bale Spurs, while not assured, will be favorites for the Champions League. That’s likely an additional 20 to 40 million pounds in revenue. Without Bale, Spurs have a good shot at CL, but the odds get lowered. So lets assume you don’t sell Bale this year and his value drops to 60 million, just because the amount that Real is willing to pay lessens. You still have likely come out even by keeping him and getting into the CL than by selling.
Second, it is harder to replace Bale now because you don’t have the attraction of CL. Next year, if Spurs make the CL they can actually use the funds to lure current CL quality players. Right now Spurs have to speculate more in the transfer market, as they have to find players that they think will be of that calibre.
Third, you gain global market share by keeping Bale. Bale is the best player in the Premier League and a human highlight reel. There’s a reason why Spurs ranked top in NBC’s chose your club promotion and its Bale. He’s on the Time’s Square billboard for god sakes. In politics this is called “earned media” – ie free publicity. Spurs will never be able to get this sort of free publicity again. This could hugely impact the potential earnings of the club, as new markets, with a growing fan base have thousands of people looking for a team to cheer for, for jersey’s to buy.
Fourth, Spurs actually have a shot at winning the league with Bale. Yes, with Bale (and with AVB and new signings), Spurs can win the title. The top 3 EPL clubs have new managers this season and while Mourinho isn’t exactly “new” he has to reshape the squad and could face a couple hiccups. The winning point totals the past four seasons have been 89, 86, 80, and 86 points. There are reasons to believe that it will be less this year, due to competitive balance and new coaches. Let’s say 82-86 points wins this year. With Bale likely playing as a striker/attacking midfield from the get go and with Soldaldo and other new signings, Spurs will likely improve on the 72 points last year when they had no strikers scoring more than a handful of goals and had a new manager. It is by no means unreasonable to think Spurs could potentially be about 10 points better than they were last year. And at around 82 points they are fully in the title race.

http://assoc-football.com/2013/08/19/why-spurs-arent-going-to-sell-bale-or-at-least-why-they-shouldnt/?

White Heart Loon

Found this





http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2012/06/19/premier-league-tv-rights-qa-including-where-the-money-goes-and-what-next-190601/

The money form 2012-2013 is the same as 2011-2012 according to the article hence why there is no 2012-2013 data.

hefferboi

Liverpool fan here.

I have to say Lamela would be some signing for ye. I'm mad for us to sign him but we were never in for him. He'd be as good a replacement for Bale as you'll get.

Really hope ye don't sign him :P

Here Precious2

Reports in Russia Spurs have a deal going now for Willian. Medical imminent. I hate Twitter

golfball37

I'd much rather Lamela than Willian personally.

DubPerryman

golfball37 wrote: »

I'd much rather Lamela than Willian personally.

I agree.

I don't think Willian is worth the £30m being suggested any time I've seen him play in the Champions League.

On the other hand, Lamela's stats don't lie. 15 league goals from a winger last season and has been touted as a direct replacement for Bale from a number of wiser people than me.