Summer Transfer Gossip

Hatch99

I'd say we'll be in the hunt for Remy, wouldn't cost too much and seems like he has taken to the PL quite well, hasn't set the world alight, although he's playing in a crap side.

Ormus

I think we should prepare for a summer of very little happening.

We'll bring in a left back called Danny Rose and a winger called Andros Townsend.

We might sign a striker. Probably Remy, although his wages may be a problem.

I can't see how we can get rid of Adebayor unless some Arab club offer him a longer contract.

Leinstersqspur

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

Tell you who I wouldn't mind us making a move for - Seamus Coleman. He's come on leaps and bounds in the last 12 months and is one of the best right backs in the EPL these days.

Are there better right backs available on the continent? - probably. But can we afford them and would they sign for spurs - probably not. He's young, talented and unlike Walker he's as good defending as he is going forward.
If anything he'd provide excellent competition and cover for Walker which might just be what Walker needs.

Agree with you there, he's had a great season for Everton. Very clever going forward which is something our right wing lacks. Not sure he'd be happy to play second fiddle to Walker though. We could always sell walker to Liverpool for £20m:D:D

2nd Row Donkey

I wonder if Harry fancies bringing Gallas to Loftus road next season? Gallas must be out of contract this summer surely anyway?

Ormus

Leinstersqspur wrote: »

Agree with you there, he's had a great season for Everton. Very clever going forward which is something our right wing lacks. Not sure he'd be happy to play second fiddle to Walker though. We could always sell walker to Liverpool for £20m:D:D

Coleman is way better than Walker IMO

It's actually a myth that Walker is good going forward, he can look threatening at times but it rarely comes to anything, his final ball is atrocious.

As for his defending....

Then again he might improve yet, he is young and is a great athlete, just needs to learn better decision making.

nipps

sign up benteke please! ade wouldnt have been able to score any of those goals tonite

Ormus

nipps wrote: »

sign up benteke please! ade wouldnt have been able to score any of those goals tonite

I'd be very pleasantly surprised if we signed Benteke.

I think he might stay another season at Villa. If he moves, he is probably scoring his way out of our budget.

Saab Ed

Ormus wrote: »

I'd be very pleasantly surprised if we signed Benteke.

I think he might stay another season at Villa. If he moves, he is probably scoring his way out of our budget.

Couldn't agree more. He's probably already priced himself out of Levys budget

Sugarlumps

I thought he was going to be a flop, watched him a few times and wasn't impressed. To score that many goals in a weakened Villa side is impressive, fantastic first season. They got him for 7/8 million on deadline day. In the region of 20 million to acquire his services?

slegs

He is Belgian though so this might be in our favour with Vertonghen and Dembele to have a word in his ear..

Antisocialiser

People seemingly forgetting that Villa paid decent money for him! Unless they go down he won't leave in the summer... because he isn't worth what Villa would ask for him!

Sugarlumps

It wont go away....http://www.insidefutbol.com/2013/04/30/tottenham-hotspur-in-pole-position-for-leandro-damiao-admits-internacional-president/84892/#zB1AGK2ZBDBxSpyK.99

SuprSi

Sugarlumps wrote: »

It wont go away....http://www.insidefutbol.com/2013/04/30/tottenham-hotspur-in-pole-position-for-leandro-damiao-admits-internacional-president/84892/#zB1AGK2ZBDBxSpyK.99

Honestly, this is the worst transfer saga I've ever known as a Spurs fan. Worse than Diego or Rivaldo! Is he even good any more?

In other news;

Zidane says Spurs could easily get 60m for Bale

Kold

Well like... f*cking duh? Did he say the sky could well be blue too?

Ormus

Not a chance we'd get that much for him, we're not a big enough club to force another club to pay that much.

If we got 40-45m we'd be doing well.

Hatch99

Ormus wrote: »

Not a chance we'd get that much for him, we're not a big enough club to force another club to pay that much.

If we got 40-45m we'd be doing well.

Fcuk that, why can't we get 50 or 60m ? He's probably recognised as one of the best in the world after Messi and Ron now, if they want him badly enough, they'll pay top dollar, especially when dealing with Levy.

Antisocialiser

Ormus wrote: »

Not a chance we'd get that much for him, we're not a big enough club to force another club to pay that much.

If we got 40-45m we'd be doing well.

We, as a club, are in a strong bargaining position in relation to Bale:

1. The club's finances are not in dire straits. We do not need to sell.
2. The player is contracted until 30th June 2016.
3. We have Levy.
4. The player seems relatively happy. He is also young, leaving plenty of time to go elsewhere if his expectations cannot be matched by the club.
5. We have Levy.

If he goes, it will be for BIG money. Absolutely no doubt in my mind about that.

golfball37

Benteke would be a good 3rd choice striker for a top team, no more. he would be useful for holding the ball up away from home and playing on the counter.

We need 2 strikers even better than him if we are to get where we want which for me is the EPL title.

Ormus

Antisocialiser wrote: »

We, as a club, are in a strong bargaining position in relation to Bale:

1. The club's finances are not in dire straits. We do not need to sell.
2. The player is contracted until 30th June 2016.
3. We have Levy.
4. The player seems relatively happy. He is also young, leaving plenty of time to go elsewhere if his expectations cannot be matched by the club.
5. We have Levy.

If he goes, it will be for BIG money. Absolutely no doubt in my mind about that.

Numbers 1-5 were all in place when Luka Modric left us too, but instead of the 40-50m that was originally being talked about, we ended up getting about 25, with another 7 or 8 to come depending on appearances etc.

In reality it will come down to whether Bale wants to go. Once his head is turned his value goes way down because he isn't going to play well because he doesn't care about the club anymore.

So, just like Modric, we are left with a choice of either stubbornly keeping a player until the asking price is met and seeing his performance level go down and the team disrupted, until he is devalued, or else cut our losses and take what's offered.

I hope I'm wrong and that Madrid or whoever decide to just pay up what we ask, but I'd be surprised if they don't play it like they always do.

Ormus

golfball37 wrote: »

Benteke would be a good 3rd choice striker for a top team, no more. he would be useful for holding the ball up away from home and playing on the counter.

We need 2 strikers even better than him if we are to get where we want which for me is the EPL title.

Only one club in the top 4 have a striker who has scored more than him this season.

Strange that you would only play him away from home, he put in a decent shift at home to Sunderland the other night.

irishmover

I see your point about value depreciation but comparing Modric and Bale is difficult. Two very different people. I don't see Bale or his agent coming out saying he was promised a move away by Levy.

I'm not sure if Bale will be at the club next season but I'm certain we won't be selling him for less than £45m.

Ormus

irishmover wrote: »

I see your point about value depreciation but comparing Modric and Bale is difficult. Two very different people. I don't see Bale or his agent coming out saying he was promised a move away by Levy.

I'm not sure if Bale will be at the club next season but I'm certain we won't be selling him for less than £45m.

True, it could play out differently, Arsenal got a decent final season out of Fabregas even after he decided to leave. I can't think of many other times a player had a good season after being kept against his wishes though.

It doesn't mean Bale has to throw a strop like Modric, just that his head is turned and his heart is no longer at the club and the rest of the squad know it. Very damaging.

Anyway, I still think he'll stay one more season.

Kold

Bale is twice the player Modric is. Honestly on his day,Modric was a beast but he went missing for large periods in almost half his games for us. Bale also seems to have a far better attitude.

Ormus

Kold wrote: »

Bale is twice the player Modric is. Honestly on his day,Modric was a beast but he went missing for large periods in almost half his games for us. Bale also seems to have a far better attitude.

Matter of opinion but I thought Modric was very consistent for us. He went through a lull at the end of last season but who didn't.

Bale is far more of a matchwinner though, no doubt about that.

But this isn't about comparing Modric and Bale, it's about Madrid's way of getting players for less than the asking price.

Antisocialiser

Ormus wrote: »

Numbers 1-5 were all in place when Luka Modric left us too, but instead of the 40-50m that was originally being talked about, we ended up getting about 25, with another 7 or 8 to come depending on appearances etc.

The difference being that Luka was not as young as Bale is. It was the last big money move for him.

In my opinion we got the right money for Modders. The figure of 40/50m being bandied about were relating to Chelsea bids; Levy didn't want to sell to a rival, that's why he turned down bids in excess of this amount. You are right about Luka being a depreciating asset but i just don't seem Gareth going down the same line as him.

Bale has only ever talked about transfers down the line and has always made it clear that he would be open to a move abroad in the future.

Did I mention we've got Levy?

Saab Ed

Antisocialiser wrote: »

We, as a club, are in a strong bargaining position in relation to Bale:

1. The club's finances are not in dire straits. We do not need to sell.
2. The player is contracted until 30th June 2016.
3. We have Levy.
4. The player seems relatively happy. He is also young, leaving plenty of time to go elsewhere if his expectations cannot be matched by the club.
5. We have Levy.

If he goes, it will be for BIG money. Absolutely no doubt in my mind about that.

Don't forget we have Levy.

We'll never want to hear the name Bale again so protracted and tedious any negotiations might be.

Saab Ed

Anyone else hear the rumour that Chelsea have already wrapped up Falcao and Mouthino for next season. Bit of a blow for us if our last big transfer target is going to one of our biggest rivals.

Ormus

Antisocialiser wrote: »

The difference being that Luka was not as young as Bale is. It was the last big money move for him.

In my opinion we got the right money for Modders. The figure of 40/50m being bandied about were relating to Chelsea bids; Levy didn't want to sell to a rival, that's why he turned down bids in excess of this amount. You are right about Luka being a depreciating asset but i just don't seem Gareth going down the same line as him.

Bale has only ever talked about transfers down the line and has always made it clear that he would be open to a move abroad in the future.

Did I mention we've got Levy?

I don't think age was the crucial difference, Luka's value depreciated cos he had made it clear he didn't wanna play for the club and him staying was more disruptive than anything else.

Compare Bale to Fabregas if you prefer. In my opinion he was worth about 30-35m to Arsenal but in the end they had to let him go for not much more than 20 because he was going either way so they had nothing left to bargain with.

I just hope the same doesn't happen with Bale.

DubPerryman

As somebody has already mentioned, Bale is a in a class above Modric. I personally don't think one is 'better' than the other, but Bale is considered in the 'match winner' class - currently he only shares this with Ronaldo, Messi and Falcao. That's why Bale, if sold, will be sold for £60m+.

I also think that Bale comes across as a fairly level-headed kind of guy, the kind that would listen to his Dad's opinion more so than his agent's opinion.

Finally, leading on from the previous point, I also think that Bale signed a contract in March because he loves Spurs and appreciates everything the club has done for him. So, he knows signing a new contract in March increases value this Summer. I believe that Bale has a gentleman's agreement with Levy that, if he signed a new contract in March, he would be allowed to leave the club this Summer IF we don't make the Champions League. It's a win-win for both parties, we get the high value and he gets the move. Plus, we can't exactly argue that he hasn't been trying his hardest to get us to the Champions League.

Hatch99

golfball37 wrote: »

Benteke would be a good 3rd choice striker for a top team, no more. he would be useful for holding the ball up away from home and playing on the counter.

We need 2 strikers even better than him if we are to get where we want which for me is the EPL title.

Benteke is better than that mate, if we'd had him playing up front for us this season, we'd be 10 points better off.