Royal Wedding Invitation

twinytwo

orourkeda wrote: »

Rugby is a retards games. The only sport in the world you get applauded for kicking the ball off the pitch.

As opposed to tripping over invisible objects and rolling around faking injury .... ya rugby is a retards game alright

ejmaztec

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

Is there a free bar?

No, even the one holding the posts apart costs money.:(

Gunsfortoys

ejmaztec wrote: »

No, even the one holding the posts apart costs money.:(

Is that college talk for husband?

Dravokivich

ejmaztec wrote: »

No, even the one holding the posts apart costs money.:(

haha, had to think about that'un, ya crafty bastard!

ejmaztec

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

Is that college talk for husband?

No, the lodger.

Dravokivich wrote: »

haha, had to think about that'un, ya crafty bastard!

Reported for abuse:P

Gunsfortoys

ejmaztec wrote: »

No, the lodger.

Same thing...

eyescreamcone

twinytwo wrote: »

As opposed to tripping over invisible objects and rolling around faking injury .... ya rugby is a retards game alright

Please don't bring up the faking an injury line.

I haven't seen any soccer player bring fake blood onto the pitch in order to cheat an official

jackal

Ah yes, rugby, the elitist of the elite...

Those premiership players that earn more in a week than most people earn in a year must really hate being looked down upon by the rugby toffs.

Sticky_Fingers

eyescreamcone wrote: »

Please don't bring up the faking an injury line.

I haven't seen any soccer player bring fake blood onto the pitch in order to cheat an official

Yep, soccer players are real manly men. They would never roll around on the ground like a pack of sissys unless they were mortally wounded during the gladiatorial combat that is kicking a ball around a field for obscene amounts of money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZavXabGsuA

bonerm

That's cheating to gain an advantage. You could definitely questions the morals and character of those involved but it has nothing really to do with 'manliness' (or lack thereof).

Pauleta

eyescreamcone wrote: »

Please don't bring up the faking an injury line.

I haven't seen any soccer player bring fake blood onto the pitch in order to cheat an official

No but i have seen a footballer cut his head with a blade to try and get a match abandoned, which had his country banned from football for 2 years

ynul31f47k6b59

Couldn't give a rats arse if the entire team was invited. Every Tom, Dick and Harry is hopping on this "Royal Wedding" crap, who cares who's invited? Kanye, The Beckhams, BOD & the missus - I feel sorry for William & Kate having to invite people they don't know to their wedding day. Because you can be damn sure they've got nothing to do with the guestlist.

Anyway, back to the debate

eyescreamcone

jackal wrote: »

Ah yes, rugby, the elitist of the elite...

Those premiership players that earn more in a week than most people earn in a year must really hate being looked down upon by the rugby toffs.

Haha
The premiership riches are available to all with the appropriate talent.
To everybody in the world.
Usually boys from fee paying schools do not make it to this elite level of sport for some reason.

Irish rugby's top table is not open (except in Limerick maybe) to all.
If you don't go to the right school (mostly fee paying) you probably will not become an international.
FACT!!!

In Ireland rugby is run as a form of apartheid.
The working class are accepted as fee paying spectators but not as international players.

Pauleta

eyescreamcone wrote: »

Haha
The premiership riches are available to all with the appropriate talent.
To everybody in the world.

Irish rugby's top table is not open (except in Limerick maybe) to all.
If you don't go to the right school (mostly fee paying) you probably will not become an international.
FACT!!!

In Ireland rugby is run as a form of apartheid.
The working class are accepted as fee paying spectators but not as international players.

There is nothing stopping public schools in Ireland from starting Rugby teams. In fact i would call schools without rugby teams as the real elitists

I think you are jealous

who the fug

As some one who went to one of them elite schools many years ago (more like posh reform school) rugby was just another game I played like hurling, football, handball & association football

Trog

eyescreamcone wrote: »

I'm not sure what part of the country you are from.

In Cork there are 2 Rugby schools in the Munster Schools Cup
PBC Cork - No rugby scholarships are given out.
CBC Cork - they use scholarships to beef up their home grown talent. Donnacha O'Callaghan is an example.

I think Midleton College, Rochestown College and Bandon Grammar School all play in a B or C standard Schools Cup ... sometimes.
All of these schools are fee paying.
No other schools play rugby in the city or county of Cork.

The Munster Schools Cup has about 12 teams entered in it.
From 6 counties with 3 of our largest cities (Cork, Limerick and Waterford) this is not a lot.
It doesn't get more elitist than this.

Good stuff re the Rugby club in Tallaght but are any schools from the area entered in the Senior Cup. I doubt it.

I'm from Dublin. When I played rugby in school we played teams from all over the country, about 6 of which were fee playing schools. The best teams were fee paying, because, like I said before, they could pay for better facilities and coaches. That's life. I wasn't in the first team, I played casually and the lower leagues had a crap load of schools from all over the place in them. Some of them had some very good players.
Generally the best players ended up in the fee playing schools on scholarships etc, but I don't understand why you would have a problem with this. They get a better education (Not being snobby here but statistically fee paying school leaving results tend to be better), and they also get to develop their rugby game to a better level. So where's the elitism here?

Have you thought about the fact that most non fee paying schools play different sports? Especially around the Cork area, where GAA is massive and Rugby is relatively unpopular. In places where the interest in rugby is there, there are a lot of opportunities for all to play.
Why do you think there is some obligation on the game of rugby to force itself into other areas? There is NOTHING stopping ANYONE in the country who wants to play rugby from doing so. If you want to play, join a club. Just because the successful teams are the ones with money (which is obviously going to happen), it doesn't mean there is any kind of elitism going on.

OP, I guess what I'm trying to say here is What's your point? None of the arguments or evidence you have brought up in any way backs up the suggestion that there is elitism in rugby.

eyescreamcone wrote: »

Oh please!!!

Yes he is one of the best in HIS OWN SPORT.
But rugby is played by such a small pool of players in a small group of countries... it MUST be a lot easier to excel in it compared to a truly worldwide sport.

He's widely recognized as one of the best sportsmen in the world in any sport. Also, so-called 'worldwide' sports aren't as huge as you think. I can only assume you're talking about soccer, but in the souther hemisphere there's a pool of rugby players as big as the pool of European and south american soccer players. Rugby is worldwide, it's huge.

Sticky_Fingers

bonerm wrote: »

That's cheating to gain an advantage. You could definitely questions the morals and character of those involved but it has nothing really to do with 'manliness' (or lack thereof).

Yes it does actually, if they honestly expect to get away with throwing themselves to the ground and acting like children then I would question their manliness. Compare this to a guy who gets up and dusts himself off having just been smashed into the ground by a 18 stone man mountain and you can see the complete girlyness of rolling round on the pitch after you fell over.

Trog

eyescreamcone wrote: »

Irish rugby's top table is not open (except in Limerick maybe) to all.
If you don't go to the right school (mostly fee paying) you probably will not become an international.
FACT!!!

In Ireland rugby is run as a form of apartheid.
The working class are accepted as fee paying spectators but not as international players.

If you don't play soccer for the best teams in the league you probably won't become an international. FACT! THEY MUST BE ELITIST!!!! Or maybe they just have better coaching structures and let the best players play for them.

Nobody's kept off a team for being poor, if you (using a Dublin example), wanted to become a good player you should join a club like clontarf, who happen to be brilliant at coaching, and you will become a better player. If you get good enough, you'll make it. If not, you won't. Where does the elitism come in?

bonerm

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

Yes it does actually, if they honestly expect to get away with throwing themselves to the ground and acting like children then I would question their manliness. Compare this to a guy who gets up and dusts himself off having just been smashed into the ground by a 18 stone man mountain and you can see the complete girlyness of rolling round on the pitch after you fell over.

No it doesn't actually and you can't really say that until the rules of rugby are changed to reward play-acting (to the way they are for soccer) and then players actions to such opportunities are subsequently observed.

Conversely, look at football back in the 1960s and 70's. None of the play-acting was tolerated then and as a result the pitch could be a very tough and violent place.

whadyasay

Rugby, really? Royalty, really? Just saying.

Sticky_Fingers

bonerm wrote: »

No it doesn't actually and you can't really say that until the rules of rugby are changed to reward play-acting (to the way they are for soccer) and then players actions to such opportunities are subsequently observed.

I doubt that very much, there is already professional cheating going on in the game but acting like a big girls blouse would not be tolerated in such a physical sport.

bonerm wrote: »

Conversely, look at football back in the 1960s and 70's. None of the play-acting was tolerated then and as a result the pitch could be a very tough and violent place.

I'm sure back in the old days football players would mock any delicate little flower who carried on the way the todays football players do.

bonerm

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

I doubt that very much, there is already professional cheating going on in the game but acting like a big girls blouse would not be tolerated in such a physical sport.

Well like I say you'll never know until the rules are such that feigning injuries etc lead to on-pitch rewards and tactical advantages.

I'm sure back in the old days football players would mock any delicate little flower who carried on the way the todays football players do.

I'm sure they would. They'd also probably admire the win at any cost attitude of these cheaters. Personally I'm not defending it (in fact I'm against it) but you cannot just say these athletes aren't manly because they do whatever it takes to win, esp when rugby players have never been dropped into the same set of circumstances.

Either way I find rugbys obsession with "manliness" almost facinating in how it betrays possible jealousy & maybe even a hint of overcompensation. Soccer players get more fame, more competition, more money etc but at least the rugby chaps get to feel 'manly' as they huddle up close to each other in the mud.

Sticky_Fingers

bonerm wrote: »

Well like I say you'll never know until the rules are such that feigning injuries etc lead to on-pitch rewards and tactical advantages.

Luckily that will probably never happen in rugby, anyone who was so susceptible to falling over and hurting themselves would never be chosen to play in the first place.

bonerm wrote: »

I'm sure they would. They'd also probably admire the win at any cost attitude of these cheaters. Personally I'm not defending it (in fact I'm against it) but you cannot just say these athletes aren't manly because they do whatever it takes to win, esp when rugby players have never been dropped into the same set of circumstances.

Or if they had any self respect they would see these cheaters and their scumbag antics for what they really are, a cancer within the game that needs to be excised. Anyone who is willing to cheat in order to win has absolutely no honour and are basically a coward for not facing up to the fact that perhaps they are not good enough to win on their own merits.

Either way I find rugbys obsession with "manliness" almost facinating in how it betrays possible jealousy & maybe even a hint of overcompensation.

Professional rugby players are for the most part very well compensated for their skill on the field. As a fan of the game I can say that perhaps there is an element of jealousy that football is more popular than rugby. I used to follow football but the antics and carry on of the players really put me off, there was many a time where I was screaming at the TV for some guy to get up and stop rolling around like his leg has just been blown off.

Soccer players get more fame, more competition, more money etc but at least the rugby chaps get to feel 'manly' as they huddle up close to each other in the mud.

Are you trying to say rugby is kinda homo erotic? Whatever man, go watch your football and enjoy all the bum slapping action and hugs and kisses amongst the players once one of them manages to score a goal.

bonerm

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

Are you trying to say rugby is kinda homo erotic? Whatever man, go watch your football and enjoy all the bum slapping action and hugs and kisses amongst the players once one of them manages to score a goal.

Yes but like you point out in football goals are so few and far between that there's precious little opportunity to kiss and and slap a colleagues bum. Fortunately in rugby you have practically the full game to enjoy groping and fondling your teammates.

I just opened the thread and now I see posts about rugby and football players groping each other...
Okay

Sticky_Fingers

bonerm wrote: »

Yes but like you point out in football goals are so few and far between that there's precious little opportunity to kiss and and slap a colleagues bum. Fortunately in rugby you have practically the full game to enjoy groping and fondling your teammates.

Maybe thats why they fall over so often, it must be hard to run around with a massive pair of blue balls for 90 minutes:P

bonerm

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

Maybe thats why they fall over so often, it must be hard to run around with a massive pair of blue balls for 90 minutes:P

Absolutely! There should should be a policy of kissing allowed for shots on target and frees won so the footy guys can get just as many opportunities to get in touch with their feminine side as the rugby chaps do in scrums/tackles etc.

ejmaztec

And Rugby players only get to look like Wayne Rooney after getting their heads kicked in for ten years.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

eyescreamcone wrote: »

Delighted to see that Sir Brian O'Driscoll and Lady Amy of Huberman have been invited to the royal wedding in April.

Not only will they be excellent representatives of the people of Leinstershire, but of all the other forelock tugging west brits throughout the island (Munstershire included!).

They must have become friends when Brian captained the British Lions a few years back.

Another example of how this posh boys sport will never represent the ordinary people of Ireland.

Any chance our football captain (from Tallaght!!!) would get an invite?
He does live in London after all!

Why are you angsty OP?

Why are you bringing social classes into it???

CorsetIsTight

eyescreamcone wrote: »

This invitation is indicative of the elitist nature of Rugby in Ireland.

I feel rugby does not represent the majority of people in this republic and it doesn't want to.

1. Since when was being elite a bad thing...? I thought it was something to aspire to.

2. Why does rugby have to represent me...? I think it's a great game, and I enjoy watching it especially when it's being played at the highest levels. I can admire the work of actors, singers, sports people etc., without needing them to represent me.

I find your entire opinion very peculiar.

orourkeda

I'd bang Kate Middleton

Agricola

orourkeda wrote: »

I'd bang Kate Middleton

Well she has a pulse, so that goes without saying!

KeithAFC

I got one too for being so loyal to Ulster. Amazing feeling. Yay.

Badgermonkey

KeithAFC wrote: »

I got one too for being so loyal to Ulster. Amazing feeling. Yay.

Corset Slut is an anagram of Ulster Scot.

That is all.

major bill

KeithAFC wrote: »

I got one too for being so loyal to Ulster. Amazing feeling. Yay.

yea they are bringing you over to work in the kitchen thats how much they think of ulster..

Coriolanus

smokedeels wrote: »

I think monarchies are bloated, arcane institutions but if I got an invite to that wedding I'd have no problem going - I'm sure it will be a pretty epic affair.

Yeah. I'd find that Duke or Prince, the ledgebag who's always taking the piss out of people and we'd both get locked.

KeithAFC

major bill wrote: »

yea they are bringing you over to work in the kitchen thats how much they think of ulster..

I'd love to.

garbanzo

On a serious note, does anyone know why BOD was actually invited? In fairness, the Brits have centuries of protocol around this sort of thing so I am curious as to how he qualified to make the list as there has to be a reason.

Annasopra

garbanzo wrote: »

On a serious note, does anyone know why BOD was actually invited? In fairness, the Brits have centuries of protocol around this sort of thing so I am curious as to how he qualified to make the list as there has to be a reason.

because he's the rugby captain

Pauleta

garbanzo wrote: »

On a serious note, does anyone know why BOD was actually invited? In fairness, the Brits have centuries of protocol around this sort of thing so I am curious as to how he qualified to make the list as there has to be a reason.

William is a big Rugby fan. Im sure they know each other from Rugby circles.

kfallon

CKWPORT wrote: »

Still waiting on my invite.

Wonder how much I should put in the card!

Enough to cover the cost of you being there and a little extra, £10,050 should do it I'd say :pac:

Burgo

Looks like BOD wont be going, got training with Leinster instead :pac:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/apr/25/brian-odriscoll-royal-wedding-leinster

Dwellingdweller

Fair play, somebody has to represent Ireland and show some goodwill toward Wills and Kate sooner or later. We can't all spend our lives on internet forums using :rolleyes: at the prospect of showing some cheer for the new couple. Some of us have to be adults!

Dwellingdweller

KeithAFC wrote: »

I got one too for being so loyal to Ulster. Amazing feeling. Yay.

An invite to clean up afterward maybe. NVM that actually, you'd be licking the dried-in beer off the sticky mahogany floor... if only because they walked on the goddamn thing.

Wolfe Tone

I don't understand all the hate towards rugby...

I played it for my school and my secondary was far from posh!

Annasopra

So anyway his wife Amy Huberman is going

MagicSean

garbanzo wrote: »

On a serious note, does anyone know why BOD was actually invited? In fairness, the Brits have centuries of protocol around this sort of thing so I am curious as to how he qualified to make the list as there has to be a reason.

i think the Syrian president rsvp'd no so they had to fill the spot.

stovelid

Why are people outraged.

It shows real progress.

90 odd years ago he'd have been serving the food and being flogged to within an inch of his life for nicking a canape to feed his kids.

orourkeda

eyescreamcone wrote: »

Delighted to see that Sir Brian O'Driscoll and Lady Amy of Huberman have been invited to the royal wedding in April.

Not only will they be excellent representatives of the people of Leinstershire, but of all the other forelock tugging west brits throughout the island (Munstershire included!).

They must have become friends when Brian captained the British Lions a few years back.

Another example of how this posh boys sport will never represent the ordinary people of Ireland.

Any chance our football captain (from Tallaght!!!) would get an invite?
He does live in London after all!

Now I'm no rugger fan, but what the hell has it got to do with you who William and your woman invite to their wedding?

orourkeda

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

I don't understand all the hate towards rugby...

I played it for my school and my secondary was far from posh!

I do. It's shyte