Where does Gerry Adams actually live?

murphaph

I see he voted in Dundalk this morning, so I presume he is on the electoral register there. He's an Irish citizen so he's entitled to vote if present on the day of the election and on the register BUT does he actually live in the RoI?

I thought he had a holiday home in Donegal? if he was registered anywhere, surely it would be there?

Liam Byrne

Maybe he's already embracing the FF/Ivor Callely school of twisting ?

Im Only 71Kg

Adamstown

takun

I believe he established a residence in Dundalk (Blackrock?) a few months ago, and presumably is on the register since then.

johngalway

Presumably in a sett.... Old badger face....










(Sorry, did try to resist posting that!)

UpTheSlashers

he would have had to have a residence in Louth to register as a candidate there.

Micilin Muc

Norfolk Drive in West Belfast afaik.

mikemac

Ravensdale. It's on the Cooley Peninsula

Rural area but a short drive to Dundalk

Banjaxed82

I thinks he's got places all over this Island. Wasn't there a time when, up to quite recently, were he wouldn't stay in the same house 2 nights in a row...?

Nodin

murphaph wrote: »

I see he voted in Dundalk this morning, so I presume he is on the electoral register there. He's an Irish citizen so he's entitled to vote if present on the day of the election and on the register BUT does he actually live in the RoI?

I thought he had a holiday home in Donegal? if he was registered anywhere, surely it would be there?

He seems to be simultaneously under a number of peoples beds....

johno2

feelingstressed wrote: »

Ravensdale. It's on the Cooley Peninsula

Rural area but a short drive to Dundalk

I could be wrong because I don't know Louth very well, but isn't that where the foot and mouth outbreak started?

johno

mikemac

Yep, the first time a lot of people, including myself heard of the Cooley Peninsula was during the foot and mouth

Cavehill Red

Never heard of Cooley whiskey?

Or the Tain???

Wow.

mike65

Cooley Peninsula is also the place where Jean McConville ended up I think. They certainly looked for her body there.

johno2

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Never heard of Cooley whiskey?

Or the Tain???

Wow.

Nope, I'm from Limerick.

johno

charlemont

:cool:

Cavehill Red

johno2 wrote: »

Nope, I'm from Limerick.

johno

And I'm from Belfast.

Cooley whiskey's sold all over the world and the Cattle Raid of Cooley is the most famous work of literature in Irish, ever.

beco

murphaph wrote: »

I see he voted in Dundalk this morning, so I presume he is on the electoral register there. He's an Irish citizen so he's entitled to vote if present on the day of the election and on the register BUT does he actually live in the RoI?

I thought he had a holiday home in Donegal? if he was registered anywhere, surely it would be there?

Louth for voting purposes, donegal when claiming milage expenses

HavingCrack

beco wrote: »

Louth for voting purposes, donegal when claiming milage expenses

Sure it's only traditional

Cakes.

When were on the subject of Louth.. :P

Where are the votes counted in Louth ?

paky

murphaph wrote: »

I see he voted in Dundalk this morning, so I presume he is on the electoral register there. He's an Irish citizen so he's entitled to vote if present on the day of the election and on the register BUT does he actually live in the RoI?

I thought he had a holiday home in Donegal? if he was registered anywhere, surely it would be there?

he doesnt live anywhere. hes a traveller

beco

Cakesofrice wrote: »

When were on the subject of Louth.. :P

Where are the votes counted in Louth ?

goz83

Address:

Gerry Adams
89 Ford Fiesta
Dundalk Shooting Range
Dundalk, Co Louth

wolfpawnat

He had to move to Louth to be eligible to run from there. So somewhere there. Sure many people have more than one house, so I assume he still has his Belfast home too!

Dandelion6

UpTheSlashers wrote: »

he would have had to have a residence in Louth to register as a candidate there.

Is this really true? There are a number of candidates in Dublin who live outside their constituency and as far as I know do not have a "residence" in it.

I assumed he took on a residence in Louth so he could (a) vote there and (b) try to keep the "tourist" jibes to a minimum.

Cavehill Red

wolfpawnat wrote: »

He had to move to Louth to be eligible to run from there. So somewhere there. Sure many people have more than one house, so I assume he still has his Belfast home too!

How did he manage all those homes on the average industrial wage, I wonder?

murphaph

Cavehill Red wrote: »

How did he manage all those homes on the average industrial wage, I wonder?

The Northern Bank gave him a big "mortgage"

Finscout

Apparently he moved to Ravensdale a few months ago. The County Register refused to put him on the register the first time of asking, as she said he wasn't resident in the County. She went out to the house a few times and no one was there! But then he was put on when he convinced her it was his normal place of residence. Was in the local papers at the time.

mikemac

Dandelion6 wrote: »

There are a number of candidates in Dublin who live outside their constituency and as far as I know do not have a "residence" in it.

Mary Lou McDonald did that last election running in Dublin Central and it was a big topic and possibly one reason she was rejected

People don't kindly to parachute candidates

GFJD

Never you mind where he lives , but you can be sure he knows where you live....

ted1

you do not have to be a resident. Just an irish citizen. You just say five hundred euro or collect thirty signatures of people living in the area or lastly obtain a political party nomination.

gurramok

Cavehill Red wrote: »

How did he manage all those homes on the average industrial wage, I wonder?

The ignorance is outstanding here. Anyone who bought a gaff before 2000 and had a steady wage or in Adams case a Westminster wage(plus Assembly wage) could comfortably afford a house in pre-Celtic tiger Ireland as housing was dirt cheap for anyone who had a job.

If you had indicated that those houses were bought after the year 2000, we would all be asking questions on affordability.

Cavehill Red

gurramok wrote: »

The ignorance is outstanding here. Anyone who bought a gaff before 2000 and had a steady wage or in Adams case a Westminster wage(plus Assembly wage) could comfortably afford a house in pre-Celtic tiger Ireland as housing was dirt cheap for anyone who had a job.

If you had indicated that those houses were bought after the year 2000, we would all be asking questions on affordability.

The ignorance appears to be yours in that you seem to be unaware that Sinn Fein trumpet that none of their elected representatives receive more than the average industrial wage with the surplus being returned to the party.
Therefore, my question stands - how the hell could Gerry Adams afford three homes on the average industrial wage (incidentally, the British one is lower by a significant factor than the Irish one.)

gurramok

Cavehill Red wrote: »

The ignorance appears to be yours in that you seem to be unaware that Sinn Fein trumpet that none of their elected representatives receive more than the average industrial wage with the surplus being returned to the party.
Therefore, my question stands - how the hell could Gerry Adams afford three homes on the average industrial wage (incidentally, the British one is lower by a significant factor than the Irish one.)

Anyone in Ireland on the average industrial wage could afford a home. He is in his 50's by the way, some of those houses were probably bought when we were a basket case.

n97 mini

johno2 wrote: »

Nope, I'm from Limerick.

johno

Very big. 3rd biggest whiskey distillery in Ireland.

Breezer

The Manor of Northstead.

dsmythy

gurramok wrote: »

Anyone in Ireland on the average industrial wage could afford a home. He is in his 50's by the way, some of those houses were probably bought when we were a basket case.

A lot of his voters probably wish they had so many homes.

cordub

Not a lot is really known about gerry adams really is there?? I asked a sinn fein person a while ago about gerrys personal background ie family rescedence etc and he didnt seem to know a lot of personel stuff about him or he wasnt saying, are these things not important to the voter??

mal1

n97 mini wrote: »

Very big. 3rd biggest whiskey distillery in Ireland.

and there is only 3.Right?

I think Gerry has had that place in Ravensdale for a while but I could be wrong. I believe he owned a house beside my home place in Carlingford too. But I'm unsure if that is just a rumour since I never saw him around.

He likes walking in the Cooley Mountains, so did a lot of the IRA during the troubles.

Hannibal

Cavehill Red wrote: »

How did he manage all those homes on the average industrial wage, I wonder?

He's an author of quite a few books dont forget

feelingstressed wrote: »

Mary Lou McDonald did that last election running in Dublin Central and it was a big topic and possibly one reason she was rejected

People don't kindly to parachute candidates

People forget that the FG candidate for Louth O'Dowd is from Tipperary so Adams wont be alone in that respect in Louth. Pat Rabbitte, Eamon Gilmore, Pat Carey, Charlie Haughey are some other so called parachute TD's.
Mary Lou was rejected because the SF candidate she replaced was Nicky Kehoe and he's very popular in the Cabra part of that constituency, and Bertie recieved a high first preference which enabled him to hand a seat on a plate to Brady aswell

RoryMac

His address would be listed on the ballot paper, maybe someone in the area can tell us what was listed?

n97 mini

mal1 wrote: »

and there is only 3.Right?

No, there are 5. Cooley is very big, and is the biggest Irish-owned. Fair balls to them.

mal1

n97 mini wrote: »

No, there are 5. Cooley is very big, and is the biggest Irish-owned. Fair balls to them.

My father used to work there in the 80s so i still think of it as being small.

In relation to Adams address on the ballot paper, I came home to vote but didn't look at Adams on the paper itself so can't help on that one.

not1but4

Dotsey wrote: »

He's an author of quite a few books dont forget


People forget that the FG candidate for Louth O'Dowd is from Tipperary so Adams wont be alone in that respect in Louth. Pat Rabbitte, Eamon Gilmore, Pat Carey, Charlie Haughey are some other so called parachute TD's.
Mary Lou was rejected because the SF candidate she replaced was Nicky Kehoe and he's very popular in the Cabra part of that constituency, and Bertie recieved a high first preference which enabled him to hand a seat on a plate to Brady aswell

Hardly the same as O'Dowd moved to Drogheda at a young age and went to secondly school there. So has been in Louth for pretty much all of his life.

Cavehill Red

mal1 wrote: »

and there is only 3.Right?

Nope, there's actually four. The same company own the fourth one too. They're no boutique operation, if that's what you're asking.

Cavehill Red

cordub wrote: »

Not a lot is really known about gerry adams really is there?? I asked a sinn fein person a while ago about gerrys personal background ie family rescedence etc and he didnt seem to know a lot of personel stuff about him or he wasnt saying, are these things not important to the voter??

Gerry doesn't like his background being looked into too closely. When people do, all sorts of nasties fall out, like covering up for an allegedly child-abusing brother for example. Incidentally, wasn't the aforementioned Liam Adams a big cheese in Louth Sinn Fein at one point? Maybe he gave Gerry his gaff. :rolleyes:

Cavehill Red

gurramok wrote: »

Anyone in Ireland on the average industrial wage could afford a home. He is in his 50's by the way, some of those houses were probably bought when we were a basket case.

But Gerry wasn't in the Republic. He was supposedly on the British average industrial wage, which at one point recently was around a third less.

Cavehill Red

Dotsey wrote: »

He's an author of quite a few books dont forget

And now he's a Southern resident, I greatly look forward to seeing how much tax he is exempted for his literary endeavours under Section E.
We'll soon see if that adds up to a property empire or not.

Marcusm

ted1 wrote: »

you do not have to be a resident. Just an irish citizen. You just say five hundred euro or collect thirty signatures of people living in the area or lastly obtain a political party nomination.

Indeed, as an Irish citizen resident abroad, I can stand for election but not vote despite having residential property in Ireland (which I believe I will have used more often than Gerry Adams).

Marcusm

mal1 wrote: »

My father used to work there in the 80s so i still think of it as being small.

In relation to Adams address on the ballot paper, I came home to vote but didn't look at Adams on the paper itself so can't help on that one.

Cooley Distillery was being reopened in the 1980s courtesy of the business expansion scheme (what would be characterised today as a large tax avoidance scheme). It takes years to build up enough stock to getva decent whiskey blending business goin. They've got quite a few brands going (Connemara, Inishowen etc) but I imagine the supermarket own label stuff accounts for a lot if the production.

Hannibal

Cavehill Red wrote: »

And now he's a Southern resident, I greatly look forward to seeing how much tax he is exempted for his literary endeavours under Section E.
We'll soon see if that adds up to a property empire or not.

I think a lot of his heavy selling books have been and gone like the autobiography and peace process etc.. To be honest if Adams had murky personal finances I dont think he'd run for election and I'm sure the revenue commissioners and CAB have long since looked at him and decided there was nothing there that shouldnt be there