Ireland vs england

Copper_pipe

After our depressing defeat to bangladesh lets hope we can get a win over our english counter-parts on wednesday.

Have we any hope?

riffmongous

I don't think we do

I would have given us a much better chance if the Netherlands game hadn't been so competitive, but now I expect a chastised England attack to steamroll our weak top order and it'll be up to the lower order to get us past 150. If we bowl first I think it will be the same as the match from the last world cup, we'll look competitive at times but we'll never been in with a realistic chance

randomer

No

riffmongous wrote: »

I don't think we do

I would have given us a much better chance if the Netherlands game hadn't been so competitive, but now I expect a chastised England attack to steamroll our weak top order and it'll be up to the lower order to get us past 150. If we bowl first I think it will be the same as the match from the last world cup, we'll look competitive at times but we'll never been in with a realistic chance

riffmongous

Some nice constructive debating there.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ireland/content/team/29.html?template=results

Here is the score at the fall of the fifth wicket looking back at our ODIs and 20/20s against Full Members for 2010


Ireland in Zimbabwe ODI Series -
3rd ODI 5-115
2nd 5-106
1st 5-137

Bangladesh in Ireland ODI Series -
2nd ODI 5-62
3-235 (final score)

Australia in Ireland ODI Match 5-139

ICC World Twenty20 - 10th match, Group D 1-4 (rained off)

ICC World Twenty20 - 2nd match, Group D 5-39

Ireland in West Indies ODI Match 5-143


Now that is not my idea of a strong top order.

Cremated

No

Well I think Joyce will make it stronger, and Marshall when he is allowed to play, if you can spread those two in the middle order it will bring a world of experience...

kryogen

No

Dont think we have much hope of getting anything from the English game tbh, of course you never know but i know who i would be putting my money on.....heavily

riffmongous

Cremated wrote: »

Well I think Joyce will make it stronger, and Marshall when he is allowed to play, if you can spread those two in the middle order it will bring a world of experience...

I'd hope so but Joyce didn't fill me with much confidence in the last match
Now I know I'm sounding ultra negative here, but the numbers don't look good. I think individually we have some great talent but collectively we are quite weak, any one of the guys is good enough to get a 50 in a match but when he does everyone else fails and we end up with these ridiculous scores.

And England's batting is certainly looking good at the moment.

Dozen Wicked Words

No

Peadar06 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXtJAshHGjk

This video is "Private" :eek:

Peadar06

No

Not private now.

Peadar06

No

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TZxPed76BA

Judgement Day

No

kryogen wrote: »

Dont think we have much hope of getting anything from the English game tbh, of course you never know but i know who i would be putting my money on.....heavily

PP are giving 1/33 on an England win so you would certainly need to be putting it on heavily for any sort of return. Ireland at 10/1 is a great way to spend €10 - the price of a couple of pints and who knows - anything is possible.

Copper_pipe

No

all we need to do is play to the best of our ability and that was enough to beat pakistan in 2007 so why not have a chance vs england

mikeruurds

Sorry guys. Big fan of Ireland and would like them to do well, but I think England have a little too much fire power.

Would love the boys to prove me wrong.

loosecannon

No

Ray Houghton reckons we can do it, that means the games as good as over for us. Ireland win...What a legend!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR2odCegjR8

riffmongous

Any word on whether Broad is fit yet?

Cremated

No

England win the toss and bat...

Cremated

No

riffmongous wrote: »

Any word on whether Broad is fit yet?

Stuart Broad is back from illness in place of Ajmal Shahzad, also Gary Wilson is back in the side for Ireland, in place of Andre Botha, how can they drop Botha?, if anyone was to get dropped it should have been White, Botha with 9-1-32-3 against Bangladesh :O,

and Alex Cusack is back in the side...

basillarkin

No

I am looking forward to this but I am stuck in a tutorial from 9-10 so i will miss the start of the match, anyways I hope Ireland can put up a good show this morning. I have not heard anything on Broad yet.

Mothman

Cusack in for White.

I'm surprised at the omission of Botha

shoutman

What do you guys reckon we need to restrict england to?

Mothman

The cricinfo commentary mentioned Wilson in for Botha but the team list has Botha.

Edit, they just changed it to Wilson....

Botha is injured or ill...

Xavi6

shoutman wrote: »

What do you guys reckon we need to restrict england to?

The English bowling hasn't exactly set the world alight but even at that I can see us struggling massively to break 200. Going on that thinking we'll need a super performance with the ball.

ctrl-alt-delete

BBC wrote:

0857 Commentary

We have just had a rousing rendition of Ireland's Call - now that's what I call an anthem... followed by the inevitably more staid sounds of God Save the Queen

Never thought i'd see that :eek:

Mothman

Considering the pitch and outfield, I think it'll be a good effort to restrict England to less then 300. A lot depends on Dockrell I feel.

I think we could chase 280 with Joyce being key.

Fox1978

Mmm, no slowing England at the moment :-( We need a nice momentum shift. Wasn't terribly impressed by the Irish batting during the last match.

Pauleta

KP is looks imperious. I think he is gonna score something seriously big today. Strauss doesnt look like he is going anywhere either

LondonIrish90

Strong start from England, motoring along at more than seven an over. Pietersen not hanging around at all.

Set up to be a good game here.

Mothman

I think I'd have delayed the blowling powerplay and brought on Dockrell.

Just to try break concentration of Peterson and Strauss. They seem to be in a comfort zone...

Edit, Dockrell on

SSK

Unless we can pick up a couple of quick wickets I think we're in trouble

KP sounds in great nick

Mothman

Dockrell got Strauss!
From cricinfo
13.3


Dockrell to Strauss, OUT, Dockrell strikes again! Strauss out for 34 on his 34th birthday. Dockrell maintained his line, Strauss jumped outside off to try and manufacture a sweep to leg, in the end it went off a flurry of bat, arm and leg an onto the stumps


AJ Strauss b Dockrell 34 (37b 2x4 1x6) SR: 91.89

Pauleta

Good work George

Speak Now

Thank God

Fox1978

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Thank God

Hey Jerry, big fan of your show. Who would've known you were an Irish cricket fan? There you go now

Speak Now

Fox1978 wrote: »

Hey Jerry, big fan of your show. Who would've known you were an Irish cricket fan? There you go now

:P

Xavi6

That's a very important wicket right there.

Pauleta

Better luck next time KP

I honestly thought he was gonna shoot for a world record

Mothman

He rather gave his wicket away


Stirling to Pietersen, OUT, would you believe it? I guess you would have to. Ridiculous end to promising innings. Having faced two deliveries from Stirling, and played neither well, Pietersen aims a cute, reverse-dab. Manages a top edge that loops up for O'Brien to gobble behind the stumps


KP Pietersen c †NJ O'Brien b Stirling 59 (50b 7x4 2x6) SR: 118.00

Xavi6

Some very good fielding in the last few overs.

basillarkin

No

Any updates? Stuck in college. How are we playing?

Speak Now

England 138/2 after 23 overs.

danieljm

any stream of the game for those of us stuck in college?

ctrl-alt-delete

danieljm wrote: »

any stream of the game for those of us stuck in college?

http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=107287&part=sports

try seeing if you can find one that suits there.

positron

164/2 @ 29 overs is not good news. At this rate they are heading to 320+, but it all can change any minute.

actwithoutwords

This could get very ugly indeed. High scoring games don't suit us whatsoever.

Mothman

211/2 35 overs.
Bell and Trott both got 50s

positron

Just noticed the poll. If you had asked me yesterday, I would have said Ireland had 60% chance - slightly above 50% as they call pull some surprises, and England a bit lax after their best performance todate against India.

But with the scores the way it is, I would say now it's only a 40% chance. It looks bleak at the moment but cricket is such a game where anything could happen and nothing is predictable. Fingers crossed and waiting for miracles.. all it takes is a couple of good overs and a few wickets, it could totally change the game!!

PS: I hope both Trott and Bell now wastes overs trying to safely reach their 100.

Royale with Cheese

positron wrote: »

Just noticed the poll. If you had asked me yesterday, I would have said Ireland had 60% chance - slightly above 50% as they call pull some surprises, and England a bit lax after their best performance todate against India.

But with the scores the way it is, I would say now it's only a 40% chance. It looks bleak at the moment but cricket is such a game where anything could happen and nothing is predictable. Fingers crossed and waiting for miracles.. all it takes is a couple of good overs and a few wickets, it could totally change the game!!

PS: I hope both Trott and Bell now wastes overs trying to safely reach their 100.

40%? More like 5%. England will make 300+ and Ireland will probably struggle to something around 200.

positron

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

40%? More like 5%. England will make 300+ and Ireland will probably struggle to something around 200.

You could have said something similar half-way thru last India vs England match too, but see how that went in the end? So here's I am hoping that English bowling turns out lame and fielding lax, and Ireland gets a few centuries at least, if not a win!

Royale with Cheese

England are a top quality team with a top order all capable of making big runs (bar Collingwood).

Ireland have never chased anything greater than 235 against a test nation, and that was against Bangladesh. Sorry to be defeatist but this one's over. 5% was probably a generous figure to be honest.

positron

Proly. Powerplay taken - let's see how next few overs goes.

Wide to boundary..!! facepalm!!

LondonIrish90

Top work from Trott and Bell. Steadied the ship really well and have kept us going along at a very good run rate. Time to start taking a few risks to hit the boundary with more frequency, 8 overs left and some capable hitters still to come.