WTF? Developer gets elected for Wexford who owes €40,000,000

HoneyRyder

oldyouth wrote: »

What the f*** does it matter what ANYBODY owes providing they are making their monthly payments. Reel your neck in

It matters a lot. Owing 40 million shows he isn't very good at decision making for a start. But I'm not worried about that when it's his own business, but electing him to government where he'll be making decisions on the country's behalf makes it everyone's business.

Brenireland

All debts aside,from what I've gathered his policies are wexford youths & America's attack on Iraq,Meanwhile Ireland is going down the swanny...

Well done Wexford,great contribution.:p

wexfordia

Ban Ki Moon wrote: »

People should have to do an I.Q test before being allowed to vote, What a bunch of morons they are in Wexford for voting this guy in. He was being interviewed on newstalk early today and he just sounded like one of those lads that you would find in a pub on a tuesday morning, and every other morning for that matter. Did anyone tell some of the people of Wexford what actually happened in this country over the past decade and who was to blame for it ?

Well I didn't vote for him !

Brenireland

orourkeda wrote: »

He should have no trouble fitting in so.

True that

foxinsox

I think fair play to him..

As far as I know he is a decent ordinary bloke (well except for the hair)

People do the ol keyboard warrior bitching about wanting change and FF are all ****e..

Then this man stands up for what he believes in = change is needed..

and people rip the piss out of him..

Did any of you stand up for what you believe in and put yourself forward in the general election?

I would say let him prove what he can do before he is ripped asunder.

I still haven't seen any proof that he owes €40,000,000 and anyway what if he does, many businesses have debts, it's the way the world works.

oldyouth

Brenireland wrote: »

All debts aside,from what I've gathered his policies are wexford youths & America's attack on Iraq,Meanwhile Ireland is going down the swanny...

Well done Wexford,great contribution.:p

We thank you for patronising our feeble attempt at civic responsibility. One day we aim to be like you, but it may take time for us to get to grips with democracy

Brenireland

foxinsox wrote: »

I think fair play to him..

As far as I know he is a decent ordinary bloke (well except for the hair)

People do the ol keyboard warrior bitching about wanting change and FF are all ****e..

Then this man stands up for what he believes in = change is needed..

and people rip the piss out of him..

Did any of you stand up for what you believe in and put yourself forward in the general election?

I would say let him prove what he can do before he is ripped asunder.

I still haven't seen any proof that he owes €40,000,000 and anyway what if he does, many businesses have debts, it's the way the world works.

Ah here,Change isn't an issue,but this lad is taking the piss!
He's a soccer fan who likes wheel barrows!,
Bertie ahern was a soccer fan who ****ed up the country and now lives in a cupboard with a really nice selection of biscuits..

baldbear

Brenireland wrote: »

All debts aside,from what I've gathered his policies are wexford youths & America's attack on Iraq,Meanwhile Ireland is going down the swanny...

Well done Wexford,great contribution.:p

He's honest. I think thats why he got elected. Wexford people must be just sick of politicians talking through there holes. He's definatly an ecentric but i look forward to hearing from him and Ming Flanagan!!


Anyway it doesn't matter who got in we are still bollíxed!!!

Brenireland

oldyouth wrote: »

We thank you for patronising our feeble attempt at civic responsibility. One day we aim to be like you, but it may take time for us to get to grips with democracy

Here,Here.

Ah sure look,He seems to be a sound chap,but he ain't a politician.

rolion

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

Here's a bit about the man himself, if you think he is a slimy scumbag developer after reading that then there is something wrong with you.

http://www.businessandfinance.ie/index.jsp?p=413&n=427&a=2095

He made some bad business decisions, but at least he has the balls to stick around and face the music unlike many of the other developers. He has donated a fortune into his local community, not to win votes or to further his own agenda, he did it simply because he felt it was the right and decent thing to do. His outspoken views against the government and their ruinous policies and tax breaks for developers cost him loads of work during the boom years. IMO we need more people like him in this country and I wish there was a man like him running in my area so I could vote for him.

I'm shocked to see where this guy landed !!
I know him since 2001-2002,when he worked on South William Street,doing the pavement ! Working shoulder-to-shoulder with others.
He used to come in the restaurant where i worked for lunch or dinner,with his lads working for him...Always nice,polite,smilling and ...his long hair ! Tipping always for the staff...no sign of superiority either !
Nice to know that a "normal" person is up there,looking for us ! The Q is: is he going to be in the SYSTEM or against the system !??? With us or against us ??

Re loans...his problem ! Not mine...i remmember banks calling me and asked for limits increased,better deals for loans and so on,putting moneys in my hands. Blame him / us ??? Blame the greedy banks...

Fair play to him and good luck...

foxinsox

Brenireland wrote: »

Ah here,Change isn't an issue,but this lad is taking the piss!
He's a soccer fan who likes wheel barrows!,
Bertie ahern was a soccer fan who ****ed up the country and now lives in a cupboard with a really nice selection of biscuits..

I don't know the guy personally or live in his constituency..

but I have read about things he has done over the years, I've seen a lot of the work he has done for various charities..

I can't say whether or not he will be a good politician but at least he is willing to try.

I believe he is a decent sort and will give it his best shot.

I personally don't think he is in the same category as Bertie at all..

aquaman

Question for all the complainents...

What's wrong with being a property developer??
Is a property developer by definition any more greedy than any other business person?

I think most businesses will operate to maximise their profits within the market and regulatory system they find themselves.
Property developers in this country found them in an almost unregulated business climate and system that encouraged them to make huge profits..

It was government policy not developers that wrecked this country!

TheUsual

Brenireland wrote: »

Here,Here.
Ah sure look,He seems to be a sound chap,but he ain't a politician.

Sounds like Enda Kenny.

Sticky_Fingers

Brenireland wrote: »

Here,Here.

Ah sure look,He seems to be a sound chap,but he ain't a politician.

Thank fook for that, we might get a straight answer out of him so.

ascanbe

husky2012 wrote: »

frist long haired td in dail? time for a change

First long haired male TD, i think you mean; and come to think of it, that was Jackie Healy-Rae.

Brenireland

*braces for entry

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

Thank fook for that, we might get a straight answer out of him so.

Son Of A Vidic

Caught a glimpse of him on TV and I thought it was worzel gummidge that got elected.

Sticky_Fingers

Brenireland wrote: »

*braces for entry

Not tonight sweetie, I've got a bit of a headache:P

Brenireland

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Caught a glimpse of him on TV and I thought it was worzel gummidge that got elected.

May as well of been Worzel

Brenireland

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

Not tonight sweetie, I've got a bit of a headache:P

fair enough

TheUsual

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Caught a glimpse of him on TV and I thought it was worzel gummidge that got elected.

I think he looks like the singer from Van Halen ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n4g1bGITLc

mike65

Sammy Hagar in the Dail would be quite entertaining.

TheUsual

mike65 wrote: »

Sammy Hagar in the Dail would be quite entertaining.

Wait until you see Ming the Merciless on drums.

SEPT 23 1989

He always reminds me of Robert Plant(who also loves his football)

SEPT 23 1989

TheUsual wrote: »

Wait until you see Ming the Merciless on drums.

Thought he preferred the pipes:D

Millicent

Brenireland wrote: »

Here,Here.

Ah sure look,He seems to be a sound chap,but he ain't a politician.

Just read this piece in The Tribune and quoted to Mick Wallace:

"Keynes wouldn't have been a fan of neoliberalism and he also believed that excessively unequal income distribution greatly increased the danger of financial instability. Whether our government actually does anything about that or not remains to be seen," said Wallace.

Does he sound like the average politician? No. He sounds 100% smarter, more considered and more astute.

cast_iron

foxinsox wrote: »

I still haven't seen any proof that he owes €40,000,000 and anyway what if he does, many businesses have debts, it's the way the world works.

Nor have I. But did I not see him on Prime Time last year saying he wasn't repaying his loans in full?

epgc3fyqirnbsx

Millicent wrote: »

Just read this piece in The Tribune and quoted to Mick Wallace:



Does he sound like the average politician? No. He sounds 100% smarter, more considered and more astute.

Millicent, the voice of reason saves the day as per usual

CiaranC

Ban Ki Moon wrote: »

People should have to do an I.Q test before being allowed to vote, What a bunch of morons they are in Wexford for voting this guy in. He was being interviewed on newstalk early today and he just sounded like one of those lads that you would find in a pub on a tuesday morning, and every other morning for that matter. Did anyone tell some of the people of Wexford what actually happened in this country over the past decade and who was to blame for it ?

People should have to do an I.Q. test before being allowed to post on here

Gyalist

I remember when he was the contractor for Dublin Corporation doing the pavements near my business in Dublin 2. The work went on for more months than originally planned and coming up to Christmas, trade was down because of the disruption in the street. He was very understanding of the situation and worked late with his lads to get the pavement finished in time for the busiest weeks of the year.

pebbles21

WTF has his hair got to do with anything???

JayEnnis

This thread shows how moronic some of the people in Ireland can be. BrenIreland, you're making assumptions, you're from Longford and you don't know anything about this man. He's done wonders for the county (More than all of the other candidates put together) and you criticise him because he isn't a politician? Well look where the politicians have gotten us. We need businessmen in power, not some eejit who's only in the Dail because of his family/connections and who doesn't have a clue how economy's work.

thunderthing

As a wexfordman, i'm delighted Mick got in, even though I didn't vote for him. I just hope he doesn't realise all too soon the reality of politics and get fed up of it (as he was advised just after announcing it on Vincent Browne!)

edit: ye might enjoy this!

Some years ago, one of Dublin's biggest builders was given a stark example of this. Wallace did £170,000 worth of work for him but was only paid £150,000, a stunt the powerful builder was well-known for. After six months of legal action, Wallace's solicitor told him it would take two years to get to court and he'd be lucky to get £2,000.
"So I knew of a guy made a living out of a gun," he says. "I made contact with him and said ‘listen, there's a guy owes me £20,000 - will you get it for me?' He said he would give me £16,000 and keep £4,000."
"There was a guy working for the builder and I deliberately went for a pint with him," continues Wallace. "‘Did you hear I'm getting the money out of your boss?' I said to him. ‘I hired a hitman and he's going to get it. Don't tell anyone now.' Next day I got a phone call from the managing director. ‘Mr Wallace,' he says, ‘I believe there is a bit of a financial dispute on that job. Can we meet and talk about it?' I met them and they offered me £15,000. I said I'd take £16,000. Of course, I never would have dreamt of actually hiring the hitman. I only used him as leverage but it worked."

TheUsual

thundercnuk wrote: »

As a thundercnuk

Good name.
It suits you.

Aoifey!

To be fair, I have met the man and he is very nice, works a lot with children and youth in the area. Always gives a helping hand where needed. I was a bit wary as he is a developer and all that, but he's not by any means a bad person.

FlutterinBantam

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

Here's a bit about the man himself, if you think he is a slimy scumbag developer after reading that then there is something wrong with you.

http://www.businessandfinance.ie/index.jsp?p=413&n=427&a=2095

He made some bad business decisions, but at least he has the balls to stick around and face the music unlike many of the other developers. He has donated a fortune into his local community, not to win votes or to further his own agenda, he did it simply because he felt it was the right and decent thing to do. His outspoken views against the government and their ruinous policies and tax breaks for developers cost him loads of work during the boom years. IMO we need more people like him in this country and I wish there was a man like him running in my area so I could vote for him.

Should be well suited in Dáil éireann so.....

barbiegirl

I'm delighted he got in. He seems to be a good hard working man. My understanding of his debt situation is that unlike a lot of deveopers he is servicing his loans and not defauting.
Well may he serve his constituency and country.

Snakeblood

maglite wrote: »

So we have, on the face of it, a good developer who ran,and is running a successful business, has not defaulted on paying his LOANS and is now competing in a market that has fallen through its arse due to the actions of the Banks and Gov. He was critical of the Banks and Gov for fecking up the market by artificially stimulating and encouraging competition.

He is now looking at a longer repayment period on the loan in his business. Why should he not have the right to run for GOv and try to make a difference. Its surely better than keyboard warriors criticizing a man for his chosen profession. He does not appear to have done anything wrong or dodgey?

Actually, that's a fair point. I'm more talking about developers in general and their name as a whole, which is mud. Apparently he's big in local sports though, which would account for a reasonable level of support.

He should totally have the right to run for government.

listermint

JayEnnis wrote: »

This thread shows how moronic some of the people in Ireland can be. BrenIreland, you're making assumptions, you're from Longford and you don't know anything about this man. He's done wonders for the county (More than all of the other candidates put together) and you criticise him because he isn't a politician? Well look where the politicians have gotten us. We need businessmen in power, not some eejit who's only in the Dail because of his family/connections and who doesn't have a clue how economy's work.

Bren Ireland is ranting from the hip with no solid basis.

Alter-Ego

Rabble rabble developers rabble rabble banks rabble rabble burn the bond holders...

The guy is paying his loans and they're to foreign banks so I can't see any problem.

Also most of his property is in built up areas so its not as if his assets are all ghost estates that will still be worth nothing in 20-30 years.

upandcumming

foxinsox wrote: »

Did any of you stand up for what you believe in and put yourself forward in the general election?

Not this shit again...

Jaafa

This is the guy.


wallace 2.jpg

flash1080

I don't see how people can have a problem with a property developer being elected because the majority of people have voted for FG, a party funded by property developers.

Blondini

Gyalist wrote: »

I remember when he was the contractor for Dublin Corporation doing the pavements near my business in Dublin 2. The work went on for more months than originally planned and coming up to Christmas, trade was down because of the disruption in the street. He was very understanding of the situation and worked late with his lads to get the pavement finished in time for the busiest weeks of the year.

I remember this also .
1996.

Sonnenblumen

Solnskaya wrote: »

And it also helps that Mick Wallace is a sound skin who has done a huge amount for the youth in his own area, as well as being a man who never shied away from telling it like it is. I was delighted to see him elected, he is a very smart cookie and a breath of fresh air. His workers like him too. His developments in dublin are high quality and vibrant and add to the city in a positive way. And I don't have a good word to say about nearly anybody, usually. Go for it Mick.

Which developments in Dublin are you referring to?

BTW he does owe € 40mio to mainly foreign banks who if they issue proceedings against him, will result in MW being declared bankrupt. AFAIK bankrupts cannot be a TD.

'Work hard, play hard' with other people's money?

Brenireland

listermint wrote: »

Bren Ireland is ranting from the hip with no solid basis.

just like you done their so.

artanevilla

Mick Wallace is a gent.

Coriolanus

Delighted for him. Met him once, years ago in the Italian Quarter in Dublin. Chatted away for an hour or so in a cafe, it was only after he'd left someone told me who he was.

CDfm

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