Oldest Pub in Ireland?

Seaneh · 03-03-2011 1:20pm

juma wrote: »

So we have a pub in Roscommon which is possibly the oldest in Europe (as claimed by many experts) and yet the Dubs still try to claim that they have the oldest pub in Ireland! Typical Dublin arrogance :rolleyes:

Sean's is in Westmeath.
Don't let those dirty rossies try claim that part of Athlone!

Dolph Starbeam · 03-03-2011 1:21pm

Aldebaran wrote: »

Oh right, I was confused by the fact that they list their address as Westmeath on their website.

ah right, maybe i'm wrong then, i thought everything that side of the shannon was Roscommon, who cares really :pac:

juma · 03-03-2011 1:25pm

West of the Shannon is Roscommon. Fact!

Seaneh · 03-03-2011 1:27pm

Mark! wrote: »

ah right, maybe i'm wrong then, i thought everything that side of the shannon was Roscommon, who cares really :pac:

I care! My home address is on that side of town, I don't want to be associated either those dirty rossies!

The Westmeath county boundary goes across the river as far as shines pub in baylough, ganleys hardware on the common road and about halfway out to Clonoon (spelled way wrong) out the bog road.

If you ever played a football match against St. Peters FC you'd see where the boundry is because halfway out the road from the railway bridge the road becomes unpaved where Westmeath C.C. Stopped and roscommon C.C. Never bothered to continue.

Seaneh · 03-03-2011 1:31pm

juma wrote: »

West of the Shannon is Roscommon. Fact!

Well, you're just wrong.

my mum lives on the connacht side of town and when I lived there I was registered in Longford/Westmeath for elections. I voted in Westmeath in the locals. Westmeath C.C. Do all the works in the area and our address is Westmeath. As is the address of the 3 primary and secondary school around connacht street.
As per my earlier post, the roscommon county boundry starts further across the river.

JustAddWater · 03-03-2011 1:33pm

oldest pub? who knows

Oldest website... definitely? The spirit of 1995 lives on!

benwavner wrote: »

http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/gormanston_cock_tavern.html

Maybe this ^^^

Dolph Starbeam · 03-03-2011 1:34pm

Seaneh wrote: »

I care! My home address is on that side of town, I don't want to be associated either those dirty rossies!

The Westmeath county boundary goes across the river as far as shines pub in baylough, ganleys hardware on the common road and about halfway out to Clonoon (spelled way wrong) out the bog road.

If you ever played a football match against St. Peters FC you'd see where the boundry is because halfway out the road from the railway bridge the road becomes unpaved where Westmeath C.C. Stopped and roscommon C.C. Never bothered to continue.

Ah right i get ya, i was in AIT so as far as i ever knew the other side of the Shannon was Roscommon, now i know.

We actually played against St. Peters B's only a couple weeks ago, i did notice the bad road alright.

MIRMIR82 · 03-03-2011 1:43pm

Seaneh wrote: »

Well, you're just wrong.

my mum lives on the connacht side of town and when I lived there I was registered in Longford/Westmeath for elections. I voted in Westmeath in the locals. Westmeath C.C. Do all the works in the area and our address is Westmeath. As is the address of the 3 primary and secondary school around connacht street.
As per my earlier post, the roscommon county boundry starts further across the river.

Sorry Seaneh but i live in Offaly - my house is 5 miles from the Tipp border - i voted in the North Tipp constituancy and the Tipperary CoCo. come out to grit sometimes so it proves nothing!!:D

juma · 03-03-2011 1:49pm

I live within 10 miles of the area. This was something that was discussed many times when I was in school. While in recent times (the last 100-200 years) postal addesses have recognised this area as Westmeath, prior to this the Shannon WAS the division between Connacht and Leinster, Roscommon and Westmeath. And who we to argue with 20,000 year old history.

Seaneh · 03-03-2011 1:49pm

MIRMIR82 wrote: »

Sorry Seaneh but i live in Offaly - my house is 5 miles from the Tipp border - i voted in the North Tipp constituancy and the Tipperary CoCo. come out to grit sometimes so it proves nothing!!:D

Westmeath county boundry comes across the river, you can check any map, even google maps. The library beside the church was a Westmeath county library. The address of every house between the bridge and shines pub and ganleys hardware is Westmeath. I know this for fact, I'm from the area!

Dolph Starbeam · 03-03-2011 1:50pm

MIRMIR82 wrote: »

Sorry Seaneh but i live in Offaly - my house is 5 miles from the Tipp border - i voted in the North Tipp constituancy and the Tipperary CoCo. come out to grit sometimes so it proves nothing!!:D

Your location even says Tipperary :eek:

vampire of kilmainham · 03-03-2011 1:51pm

juma wrote: »

Sean's Bar is not only the oldest pub in Ireland, but also its claimed to be the oldest pub in Europe

the brazen head is the oldest pub in ireland dating back to 1175 so it's 900yrs old:eek:

Seaneh · 03-03-2011 1:52pm

vampire of kilmainham wrote: »

the brazen head is the oldest pub in ireland dating back to 1175 so it's 900yrs old:eek:

Since when is the 12th century earlier than the 10th century?

MIRMIR82 · 03-03-2011 1:55pm

Mark! wrote: »

Your location even says Tipperary :eek:

Ya i'm from Tipp - reluctantly bought a house in Biffoland!!

airman101 · 03-03-2011 1:56pm

Sean's in athlone feels pretty old, do they still have the sawdust on the groung??? the cock tavern in gormanstown has the word OLDEST PUB IN IRELAND written in massive writing on the side of the building, wonder if that makes it true??????

Dolph Starbeam · 03-03-2011 1:59pm

airman101 wrote: »

Sean's in athlone feels pretty old, do they still have the sawdust on the groung??? the cock tavern in gormanstown has the word OLDEST PUB IN IRELAND written in massive writing on the side of the building, wonder if that makes it true??????

I haven't been in there in about 4 or 5 months but they had the saw dust on the ground back then, it does add to that old feel of the place.

Dermo · 03-03-2011 1:59pm

Seaneh wrote: »

Since when is the 12th century earlier than the 10th century?

He's a vampire, time can get a bit fuzzy when you don't age

vampire of kilmainham · 03-03-2011 2:03pm

juma wrote: »

Sean's Bar is not only the oldest pub in Ireland, but also its claimed to be the oldest pub in Europe

no its not the brazen head in dublin is trading since 1175 iam a vampire and i used to pop in there for ye ol pint of ale in previous centuries an drain the blood from the necks of handsome young british soldiers and beautiful ladies toooo [sure i wasent fussey]:D:D:D

vampire of kilmainham · 03-03-2011 2:09pm

juma wrote: »

So we have a pub in Roscommon which is possibly the oldest in Europe (as claimed by many experts) and yet the Dubs still try to claim that they have the oldest pub in Ireland! Typical Dublin arrogance :rolleyes:

stop talking sh1t it's the brazen head is the oldest go on ya feckin culchie ya go on outa dat get upppp the yard theres theres a smell a benjie:D:D:eek::eek:

RichieC · 03-03-2011 2:15pm

juma wrote: »

So we have a pub in Roscommon which is possibly the oldest in Europe (as claimed by many experts) and yet the Dubs still try to claim that they have the oldest pub in Ireland! Typical Dublin arrogance :rolleyes:

Typical indeed, typical Oirish ****e here tbh, arguing over the oldest boozer?

Dolph Starbeam · 03-03-2011 2:16pm

vampire of kilmainham wrote: »

stop talking sh1t it's the brazen head is the oldest go on ya feckin culchie ya go on outa dat get upppp the yard theres theres a smell a benjie:D:D:eek::eek:

Well Sean's Bar have the record in the Guinness Book of Records so na na na na na :P

Dermo · 03-03-2011 2:16pm

vampire of kilmainham wrote: »

no its not the brazen head in dublin is trading since 1175 iam a vampire and i used to pop in there for ye ol pint of ale in previous centuries an drain the blood from the necks of handsome young british soldiers and beautiful ladies toooo [sure i wasent fussey]:D:D:D

Sean's Bar: 900
Brazen Head: 1175

900 < 1175

Therefore
Sean's Bar is older then the Brazen Head

sbsquarepants · 03-03-2011 2:29pm

I don't buy it.
Who in their right mind would drink in athlone today, let alone 1100 years ago?
Brazen head it is for me!:D

rossie1977 · 03-03-2011 2:31pm

seans is far and away the oldest pub in
ireland

now trying to prove whether its in roscommon or westmeath will be a tougher job, the hodson bay tries to claim its in westmeath too but its nowhere near

Seaneh · 03-03-2011 2:37pm

rossie1977 wrote: »

seans is far and away the oldest pub in
ireland

now trying to prove whether its in roscommon or westmeath will be a tougher job, the hodson bay tries to claim its in westmeath too but its nowhere near

Yeah, the bay is a few miles inside common anyway.
sure its closer to Kiltoom than town!

Paparazzo · 03-03-2011 3:01pm

Just looked at the county boundary on the ordinance survey maps and seans bar is well and truly in Westmeath.

juma · 03-03-2011 3:05pm

rossie1977 wrote: »

seans is far and away the oldest pub in
ireland

now trying to prove whether its in roscommon or westmeath will be a tougher job, the hodson bay tries to claim its in westmeath too but its nowhere near

Businesses like the Bay and Seans do this to attract tourists/customers. Since Athlone is a large town its better for Hodson Bay to be seen as in Athlone. Think about it, which looks better on an address, Kiltoom Co. Roscommon or Athlone Co. Westmeath? As said before addresses mean nothing. The Shannon is the true division between Connacht and Leinster.

Seaneh · 03-03-2011 3:08pm

juma wrote: »

Businesses like the Bay and Seans do this to attract tourists/customers. Since Athlone is a large town its better for Hodson Bay to be seen as in Athlone. Think about it, which looks better on an address, Kiltoom Co. Roscommon or Athlone Co. Westmeath? As said before addresses mean nothing. The Shannon is the true division between Connacht and Leinster.

Oh, Sean's is in Connacht, no denying that!
But it's not in Roscommon!

OSI agree with me on this one.

rossie1977 · 03-03-2011 3:27pm

well if the dividing line between connacht and leinster is the shannon and we know none of westmeath is in connacht, how can seans be in westmeath??

juma · 03-03-2011 3:43pm

Seaneh wrote: »

Oh, Sean's is in Connacht, no denying that!
But it's not in Roscommon!

OSI agree with me on this one.

I have seen some daft comments on Boards down through the years but this one is in a completely different league!

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