Charlie Sheen

Effects

Sounds like you don't really know that much about germs to be honest.

ThinkProgress wrote: »

I don't think I could shake someone's hand if I knew they had HIV/AIDS... I guess that makes me a rotten person.

I'm quite neurotic about germs, and HIV is the king of germs! (or at least it used to be and still has that stigma in many ppl's minds)

Effects

R.D. aka MR.D wrote: »

It's nearly as serious as one guy I heard of who used to make his girlfriend wash her hands in boiling hot water after she gave him a handjob just incase she got pregnant.

Sounds like she had the problem there if she put up with that. She could have just refused to give the hand jobs.

RDM_83 again

anna080 wrote: »

They did use condoms. One lover said they used lambskin condoms but as I already stated earlier they don't prevent HIV transmission. But having told her he was clean she may have thought these were sufficent enough.

Candie wrote: »

Latex allergy is very common, they're the alternative.

Not true, there is many widely available in shops non latex brands that aren't made of sheep guts and prevent viral transmission. Its irresponsible to suggest that lambskin are a widely used alternative.

Effects

ThinkProgress wrote: »

I don't shake hands with people that have a cold... so why would I be any more likely to do so with someone who has an incurable disease?

I probably wouldn't speak to you if we were introduced. You sound like an asshole and if we exchanged words then I might end up catching it from you verbally.

brevity

R.D. aka MR.D wrote: »

It's nearly as serious as one guy I heard of who used to make his girlfriend wash her hands in boiling hot water after she gave him a handjob just incase she got pregnant.

Thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

NachoBusiness

anna080 wrote: »

They did use condoms. One lover said they used lambskin condoms but as I already stated earlier they don't prevent HIV transmission. But having told her he was clean she may have thought these were sufficent enough.

Indeed and that's why I feel bad for Bree. She has some responsibility for her own lifestyle choices, of course she does, but she was of the belief that her choices were informed ones, now it turns out they were not, well then that diminishes her responsibility to a large degree. If it's proven that Charlie was aware that Lambskin condoms do not adequately protect against HIV (and that he could have used polyurethane if he has a latex allergy) then without question is going to facing some lawsuits for knowingly putting people's lives in danger. It's America, they sue for a lot bloody less. Hard to know if Bree will sure, her anger could be temporary but she is fcuking seething.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKmWYxqjHak

R.D. aka MR.D

Effects wrote: »

Sounds like she had the problem there if she put up with that. She could have just refused to give the hand jobs.

She was basically in an emotionally abusive relationship but you're right I've no idea how she put up with it!

He always seemed like such a normal guy. I'd met and hung around with them loads of times.

brevity wrote: »

Thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

That isn't even half of it I'm afraid. They never had penis in vagina sex but he always accused her of being pregnant and made her show proof that she wasn't (you can work that out for yourself in all it's gory detail).

He basically had no idea how women get pregnant. He thought just touching/sleeping in the same bed/blow jobs could get a woman knocked up.



Anyway, my 2 cents on Charlie Sheen is that he seems like he has a lot of addiction and mental health problems. I feel sorry for his kids mostly. They are the ones who suffer and had absolutely no choice in how/to who they were born.

CruelCoin

Samaris wrote: »

HIV isn't easily transmissable. It's not transferable by skin-to-skin contact. The likelihood of you both having a cut is very remote and it'd be pretty obvious if you did. It's a bit like...refusing to shake hands with someone suffering from cancer. Something that little as refusing basic social contact with them is making them out to be a pariah and it's insult to injury.

Depends on the work. I work largely outdoors and have several outdoors hobbies, and i have cuts on my hands most of the time.

If i knew someone had hiv, i wouldn't touch them without a hazmat suit first.

R.D. aka MR.D

CruelCoin wrote: »

If i knew someone had hiv, i wouldn't touch them without a hazmat suit first.

Oh sweet Jesus....

I really hope the ignorance being shown in this thread is because the posters are in their 50's or older and it's just a hangover from the time when their was hysteria about the disease.

You obviously have access to the internet, educate yourself.

It's 2015 :mad:

brevity

R.D. aka MR.D wrote: »

That isn't even half of it I'm afraid. They never had penis in vagina sex but he always accused her of being pregnant and made her show proof that she wasn't (you can work that out for yourself in all it's gory detail).

He basically had no idea how women get pregnant. He thought just touching/sleeping in the same bed/blow jobs could get a woman knocked up.

.

Sounds like he was too young to be doing any of that business.

Samaris

CruelCoin wrote: »

Depends on the work. I work largely outdoors and have several outdoors hobbies, and i have cuts on my hands most of the time.

If i knew someone had hiv, i wouldn't touch them without a hazmat suit first.

Crikey, I hope you're not overly aware of all the other things you can get from cuts on your hands, or I suspect you'd never leave the house again!

R.D. aka MR.D

brevity wrote: »

Sounds like he was too young to be doing any of that business.

He was in his mid-20's. It would be somewhat understandable from a teenager. I often wonder if he ever got help/figured it out.

asherbassad

errlloyd wrote: »

It is ridiculously difficult to contract it from vaginal sex alright. A German pop star who was hiv positive was sued by some of her sexual partners, but got off becuase her doctor had advised her the risks were very low.

However. Charlie Sheen was reported as having sexual partners from both genders, and I wouldn't rule out him being more adventurous than just vaginal sex.

I dunno if CS ever did intravenous drugs, but obviously that raises all sorts of issues too. Weird, when this thread opened, he'd already been diagnosed.

Even if Charlie Sheen was shooting up I very much doubt he would need to share a needle with someone. The guy has enough cash to buy all the needle factories in the state.

osarusan

I remember when I was in primary school, somebody had gone home for lunch and come back with some ice-cream between two wafers.

They wouldn't share it with me 'because of the AIDS.'

Seems like we've still got people with that mentality.

Effects

asherbassad wrote: »

Even if Charlie Sheen was shooting up I very much doubt he would need to share a needle with someone. The guy has enough cash to buy all the needle factories in the state.

It's not about being able to afford needles. You can get all the needles you want for free here in Ireland. It's about the hold the drug has on you and you don't take the same precautions you think you would.

Son Of A Vidic

So Sheen is HIV positive, well that has to be one of the least surprising pieces of new I've heard in a long time. He's now become a poster boy for how not to live your life. I only hope he has not infected anyone else due to his own stupidity.

asherbassad

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I've seen him named all over the net for over a week now so it was no real secret, apparently he paid some of his former partners millions to keep quiet up until now.

If he went bareback knowing he had HIV he was a Grade A scumbag but I think people should wait and see if it's true first before judging him.

Doubt many would want to be with him now, no way would I go near someone who has HIV and I doubt I'm alone in thinking this.

I would imagine that he will now be getting in touch with as many HIV+ hookers, strippers, porn queens as he can. They can now have no holds barred orgies and nobody need worry about condoms, etc.

ThinkProgress

CruelCoin wrote: »

Depends on the work. I work largely outdoors and have several outdoors hobbies, and i have cuts on my hands most of the time.

If i knew someone had hiv, i wouldn't touch them without a hazmat suit first.

I agree with this. (not the hazmat suit part - but I think you're only saying that for dramatic affect. I don't think you're being 100% serious with that part)

Sometimes the practicalities of life and the need to keep yourself safe from a dangerous disease, supersede the desire to avoid hurting someone's feelings. Imho!



I also feel like I need to expand a bit on my earlier point, because people seem to be enjoying jumping on me from their ivory towers and beating me with their stick of self righteous indignation!

(not that I'm going to waste too much energy defending myself on here from the hordes of SJW sharks that will more than likely see me as an easy meal)

It's not just the disease that would make me think twice about shaking a HIV-positive person's hand... it's also the person themselves. Let me explain.

Let's take Charlie Sheen as an example - since that's who this thread is about.

Even if Charlie Sheen didn't have HIV, I still probably wouldn't shake his hand... because I don't like or respect him. I disapprove of what he is and how he leads his life.

I wouldn't want to be in the same room or building as someone like Charlie Sheen. He doesn't care about his life or anyone else's... his behavior and lifestyle over the years show me this.

There are many people just like "good time charlie" out there... you see them most nights if you go out for a drink in any major city in the world.

In most cases of HIV, it's the person's lifestyle choices and reckless behavior that leads to them contracting the disease. I know there are exceptions to this, and some careful people can just be very unlucky... but I maintain that the vast majority get it through bad choices.

Why should I be comfortable shaking the hand of a person who quite likely has (or had) a careless disregard for their health and other people's? In addition to the fact that they have a deadly disease that could ruin my life...

AND

Science is always discovering new things that we didn't understand yesterday or today.

We don't fully understand HIV or AIDS. (The fact we haven't developed a cure for it yet, is strong evidence of this)

Yes we have better understanding of it today than we did 20 years ago. But it's still a bit of a mystery illness in some regards....

So while I acknowledge that my behavior is somewhat potentially damaging to the welfare of those with the condition, my instincts tell me to be very cautious around an incurable disease that we don't fully understand yet.

I should also clarify - I don't hate people with HIV/AIDS. And I certainly would never discriminate against them in any avoidable way. (other than being uncomfortable being in their presence - which I would always try to hide for their benefit)

People can attack me if they wish, but I'm unapologetic for being a careful person in certain circumstances. I value my life and health... even if that means potentially someone might get their feelings hurt. Or feel stigmatized.

Some of the stigma around HIV/AIDS is perfectly legitimate imo. And the stigma around someone like Charlie Sheen's lifestyle and character is even more legitimate...

I wouldn't go as far as saying he got what he deserved for his bad choices, because that's a bit too callous for me... but I could understand those who hold that view.

beyondbelief67

ThinkProgress wrote: »

I

Science is always discovering new things that we didn't understand yesterday or today.

We don't fully understand HIV or AIDS. (The fact we haven't developed a cure for it yet, is strong evidence of this)

I really hope you get the help you so badly need, no they don't know how to cure it yet, but they do know how it is passed on, and it certainly isn't through shaking hands or giving the person s hug, and Christ On a bike do they need a hug with what they are going through !
Especially when they have to contend with people like yourself.
I worked voluntary in a hospice that had aids patients, and on the buddy scheme for young people who were diagnosed, and I truly thought people with ideas such as your own were a thing of the past and so wish you were, you truly haven't a clue how hurtful your words and actions could be.
Please get help and enlighten yourself.

ThinkProgress

beyondbelief67 wrote: »

Especially when they have to contend with people like yourself.

If you read my point, you would have seen that they would not have to deal with me...

A) I would actively avoid anyone who I knew had the disease, so they wouldn't need to worry about being burdened with my presence.

AND

If for some reason I did have to be in their presence, I would make the effort to hide any discomfort for their benefit. (as I already explained)

Kevhog1988

im 27 and i can safely say i know very little about aids etc

ThinkProgress

ThinkProgress wrote: »

If you read my point, you would have seen that they would not have to deal with me...

A) I would actively avoid anyone who I knew had the disease, so they wouldn't need to worry about being burdened with my presence.

AND

If for some reason I did have to be in their presence, I would make the effort to hide any discomfort for their benefit. (as I already explained)

Your information is out of date and your understanding is very limited. If you are interested in being more informed, there are vast resources available on the net to help you gain a more educated perspective on the risks of being around people with HIV, and casual contact.

You are more likely to be run over by a pink bus, on a Thursday, while wearing a unicorn costume, than you are to become infected with HIV from shaking someones hand.

Canterelle

ThinkProgress wrote: »

If you read my point, you would have seen that they would not have to deal with me...

A) I would actively avoid anyone who I knew had the disease, so they wouldn't need to worry about being burdened with my presence.

AND

If for some reason I did have to be in their presence, I would make the effort to hide any discomfort for their benefit. (as I already explained)

So you'd avoid anyone with hiv, even friends or relatives? Because as you said earlier it's most likely that they contracted it by being the wrong sort or some such rubbish. And then if you had to be in their presence, you'd try and hide your discomfort although no way would you shake hands. Jesus that's just so self righteous, selfish and in humane. A little bit of education and compassion needed here.

retro:electro

ThinkProgress wrote: »

If you read my point, you would have seen that they would not have to deal with me...

A) I would actively avoid anyone who I knew had the disease, so they wouldn't need to worry about being burdened with my presence.

AND

If for some reason I did have to be in their presence, I would make the effort to hide any discomfort for their benefit. (as I already explained)

And how would you know they had it? Not eveyone greets people like "Hi I'm Adam and I don't have AIDS", never mind disclose the fact to people upon meeting them that they do have it. Or do you have some kind of telepathic super sense where you can locate and detect someone who has AIDS upon first glance?? My point is HIV and AIDS are invisible illnesses. You could shake hands with someone at mass who has it, or someone in a supermarket handing you your change could have it, how are you going to intercept or prevent those occurrences? You can't.

jam_mac_jam

I am amazed by the lack of knowledge about HIV and AIDS. It sounds like 1995 in here.

jam_mac_jam

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

I am amazed by the lack of knowledge about HIV and AiDS. It sounds like 1995 in here.

Some obviously think they're the same thing, too.

One eyed Jack

ThinkProgress wrote: »

(not that I'm going to waste too much energy defending myself on here from the hordes of SJW sharks that will more than likely see me as an easy meal)

...

People can attack me if they wish, but I'm unapologetic...

Something tells me you only love it when you are getting a rise out of people and the attention is all on you :rolleyes:

NachoBusiness wrote: »

Because you can't catch HIV by shaking hands with someone?

I haven't heard such nonsense in this context since the late 80's / early 90's. It was at least understandable then as people could be excused for being ignorant. There is no such excuse today however.

Have you ever seen the film Philadelphia? Watch it. You might recognize yourself in one or two of the characters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkpHalgTqpw

Quality post, and I'd recommend that film to anyone, everyone, because they could all recognise themselves in one or two of the characters. Prejudice and ignorance are all too often interwined.

I'm not going to judge Charlie Sheen or anyone involved in this story too harshly. Normally things are pretty clear cut either way for me, but on this one, I admired Charlie as an actor, and as a person, and as someone who had inspired me in many ways to overcome my own... moral failings, and to see things turn out so tragically for all the people involved, I just don't have the words tbh.

Samaris

Good grief...having read that diatribe in response, all I can say is that that was alarmingly ill-informed and amazingly callous.

You can get it from sharing needles, yes, I assume that's one of the "bad choices" you speak of. You can also get it from sleeping with a HIV+ person, particularly if you have anal sex, which is a lot more common in the gay male community than in other groups. I assume that's another of your "lifestyle" issues. You can also get it from unprotected or insufficiently protected sex (i.e. using a non-latex condom, which is a problem for the significant amount of people who are allergic to the stuff.)

So, now that we've covered the "bad lifestyle" choices. You can also get it from blood transfusions - you should go look at the thread about donating blood and the six idiots that say they donate without being eligible to. You can inherit it from parents, which is a major problem in certain African countries where the disease has been endemic.

You should be very, very careful who you allow yourself to be in a room with. One of the filthy lepers could be around you at any given moment. Hopefully none of your family or friends ever admit to you that they're going through it, because I can imagine you'd be fairly sharp to cut them out of your life, going by that message.

CruelCoin

R.D. aka MR.D wrote: »

Oh sweet Jesus....

I really hope the ignorance being shown in this thread is because the posters are in their 50's or older and it's just a hangover from the time when their was hysteria about the disease.

You obviously have access to the internet, educate yourself.

It's 2015 :mad:

Did you selectively ignore the part of my post where i said i often (read: all the time) have cuts on my hand?

CruelCoin

ThinkProgress wrote: »

I agree with this. (not the hazmat suit part - but I think you're only saying that for dramatic affect. I don't think you're being 100% serious with that part)

Obviously not, where would i get one for starters? People reading that as if i meant it are just part of the professionally offended brigade.

jam_mac_jam

CruelCoin wrote: »

Did you selectively ignore the part of my post where i said i often (read: all the time) have cuts on my hand?

Which just means you are showing your ignorance even more. Are you walking around with open bleeding cuts that other people are rubbing their blood into or something because otherwise you can't get it that way. Maybe you should put on a plaster.

Canterelle

CruelCoin wrote: »

Did you selectively ignore the part of my post where i said i often (read: all the time) have cuts on my hand?

Do your colleagues get cuts on their hands? Do you know all their health histories and hiv status?

CruelCoin

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Which just means you are showing your ignorance even more. Are you walking around with open bleeding cuts that other people are rubbing their blood into or something because otherwise you can't get it that way. Maybe you should put on a plaster.

I'm not going to appologise for the fact that i would not shake a hiv sufferers hand. I'm not going to bother my hole asking for him to present his hand and for me to then check it for cuts etc. I'm just not going to shake it.

I value my health and personal well-being far more than i value not momentarily offending someone for the sake of political correctness.

CruelCoin

Canterelle wrote: »

Do your colleagues get cuts on their hands? Do you know all their health histories and hiv status?

You're moving the goalposts.

I said i would not shake their hand if i knew they were hiv positive.

Canterelle

CruelCoin wrote: »

You're moving the goalposts.

I said i would not shake their hand if i knew they were hiv positive.

No I'm not, I'm just pointing out that it's a ridiculous and totally unnecessary way of going on. You are not going to contract hiv by shaking hands with a sufferer, and as many people won't advertise their hiv status, you couldn't protect yourself in this idiotic way anyway

jam_mac_jam

CruelCoin wrote: »

I'm not going to appologise for the fact that i would not shake a hiv sufferers hand. I'm not going to bother my hole asking for him to present his hand and for me to then check it for cuts etc. I'm just not going to shake it.

I value my health and personal well-being far more than i value not momentarily offending someone for the sake of political correctness.

Its nothing to do with political correctness, you are just wrong, you can't catch it that way. Its a lot more simple then that. You are just showing your ignorance on the issue.

Samaris

CruelCoin wrote: »

professionally offended brigade.

CruelCoin wrote: »

I value my health and personal well-being far more than i value not momentarily offending someone for the sake of political correctness.

This one isn't actually about being professionally offended or PCness, it's that you have an astonishing lack of knowledge about HIV, and thus your choices look either ignorant or kinda douchey.

Not -everything- that pertains to acting like a human being is "PC".

osarusan

ThinkProgress wrote: »

(not that I'm going to waste too much energy defending myself on here from the hordes of SJW sharks that will more than likely see me as an easy meal)

Even in After Hours, where the term SJW has such lazy and blindly all-emcompassing use as to never have meant anything, this is an extreme.

Galwayguy35

I wonder how he got it, was it from a needle or from a sex partner?

Canterelle

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I wonder how he got it, was it from a needle or from a sex partner?

He doesn't know, according to interview. So presumably nobody contacted him to tell him to get a test.

beyondbelief67

I do wonder how those posters who have such a terribly sad view of hiv and aids and how it's passed on manage to receive medical treatment?
Or how they manage to stay in hospital?
After all if you think it can be passed on by merely shaking hands then surely you would be petrified in such environments?
This thread has really saddened me I thought ideas and thoughts had changed, I remember going for lunch with a young teenage girl one day and some of her classmate's told the waitress that she shouldnt be allowed in there, we were asked to leave, I saw them putting everything we had used straight in the bin including the table cloth.
Sadly she ddint want to go out much after that, because of small minded clueless people. Empathy, compassion and caring of others costs nothing and can mean everything.

Canterelle

beyondbelief67 wrote: »

I do wonder how those posters who have such a terribly sad view of hiv and aids and how it's passed on manage to receive medical treatment?
Or how they manage to stay in hospital?
After all if you think it can be passed on by merely shaking hands then surely you would be petrified in such environments?
This thread has really saddened me I thought ideas and thoughts had changed, I remember going for lunch with a young teenage girl one day and some of her classmate's told the waitress that she shouldnt be allowed in there, we were asked to leave, I saw them putting everything we had used straight in the bin including the table cloth.
Sadly she ddint want to go out much after that, because of small minded clueless people. Empathy, compassion and caring of others costs nothing and can mean everything.

Totally agree, and am dismayed there are people who wouldn't shake hands with a HIV+ person. And then go on to label anyone who questions this or disagrees with them as PC or Sjws. I am sorry but your sense of "well being" and peace of (small) mind does not far outweigh that of others, especially when it is based on total ignorance and knee jerk responsiveness.

ThinkProgress

Candie wrote: »

Your information is out of date and your understanding is very limited. If you are interested in being more informed, there are vast resources available on the net to help you gain a more educated perspective on the risks of being around people with HIV, and casual contact.

You are more likely to be run over by a pink bus, on a Thursday, while wearing a unicorn costume, than you are to become infected with HIV from shaking someones hand.

I am fully aware of the risks and how it's contracted. (as far as we currently understand) Thank You.

But this disease is not yet fully understood, so I choose to take a very cautious approach with it.

Samaris wrote: »

Good grief...having read that diatribe in response, all I can say is that that was alarmingly ill-informed and amazingly callous.

You can get it from sharing needles, yes, I assume that's one of the "bad choices" you speak of. You can also get it from sleeping with a HIV+ person, particularly if you have anal sex, which is a lot more common in the gay male community than in other groups. I assume that's another of your "lifestyle" issues. You can also get it from unprotected or insufficiently protected sex (i.e. using a non-latex condom, which is a problem for the significant amount of people who are allergic to the stuff.)

So, now that we've covered the "bad lifestyle" choices. You can also get it from blood transfusions - you should go look at the thread about donating blood and the six idiots that say they donate without being eligible to. You can inherit it from parents, which is a major problem in certain African countries where the disease has been endemic.

Please try not to assume too much about me... it shows your ignorance.

Those are the contraction methods were are currently aware of. What about the ones we're not currently aware of...? Did you even think of this?

Or do you also believe that we fully understand this disease too? :rolleyes:

People contract the disease all the time without knowing how/when/where... yet many of you on here are so certain that we fully understand it... GOOD FOR YOU GUYS... but I call all of THAT ignorance!

Aid workers in 3rd world countries (who are very well informed btw), frequently contract the disease. And again, many of these people don't know how they got it... they just make assumptions based on what we currently know.

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

You are just showing your ignorance on the issue.

Really? And what about all the ignorance in here of people naively thinking we know EVERYTHING about the disease?

WE DON'T...

I'm sure there will be many future discoveries/revelations. (perhaps even a cure if we're all lucky one day)

gordongekko

ThinkProgress wrote: »

Aid workers in 3rd world countries (who are very well informed btw), frequently contract the disease. And again, many of these people don't know how they got it... they just make assumptions based on what we currently know.

link???

ceadaoin.

ThinkProgress wrote: »

I am fully aware of the risks and how it's contracted. (as far as we currently understand) Thank You.

But this disease is not yet fully understood, so I choose to take a very cautious approach with it.



Please try not to assume too much about me... it shows your ignorance.

Those are the contraction methods were are currently aware of. What about the ones we're not currently aware of...? Did you even think of this?

Or do you also believe that we fully understand this disease too? :rolleyes:

People contract the disease all the time without knowing how/when/where... yet many of you on here are so certain that we fully understand it... GOOD FOR YOU GUYS... but I call all of THAT ignorance!

Aid workers in 3rd world countries (who are very well informed btw), frequently contract the disease. And again, many of these people don't know how they got it... they just make assumptions based on what we currently know.

Really? Are you sure your arent getting it mixed up with ebola?

Samaris

Says the chap making some truly ridiculous assumptions about how s/he might get it.

We do actually have a pretty good idea of how it's transmitted. It's the cure that's the difficult part.

*scratches head* As a matter of interest, do you generally figure that when you personally don't understand something it's because it's Not Understood?

ThinkProgress

ThinkProgress wrote: »

I am fully aware of the risks and how it's contracted. (as far as we currently understand) Thank You.

No, you don't.

You can choose to educate yourself or you can choose to remain ignorant. I think it's fairly obvious which path you'll take, but please don't pretend it's an informed choice.

asteroids over berlin

I like Charlie, his a bit out there. Hope he lives a long and otherwise healthy life

Canterelle

As has been said before, there is a lot of readily available information about hiv and AIDS, and if hiv is detected in time people can live normal lives with a pretty near normal life expectancy. We do know how HIV is transmitted, and we have a good knowledge of how to prevent it developing into AIDS if the right treatment is given. We also know that it cannot be transmitted by shaking hands or hugging. Please be aware of this, it's easy to take in and can limit a lot of unnecessary hurt. I think that's all anyone is try to say to the posters who say they wouldn't shake hands with a person with HIV , it's an unfair awful disease and it's pretty tough enough for those people unfortunate enough to have contracted it without being shunned or ostracised by others, needlessly.

RDM_83 again

Samaris wrote: »

You can also get it from unprotected or insufficiently protected sex (i.e. using a non-latex condom, which is a problem for the significant amount of people who are allergic to the stuff.)

Would people stop saying this, anybody that uses insufficient protection isn't doing it because they have a latex allergy they are doing it because they don't want to use a certain type of protection.
You can buy Mates Skyn's in Tesco and Boots FFS they aren't exactly a hidden away product.
(And to shill them, they are way better than Durex)