Howth Hill Climb

easygoing39

I was thinking the same thing as chakattack!! If you did 8.17, you should be able to get up any climb in Howth.Or Wicklow for that matter!!

del88

I see the road has been re-tarmaced between sutton and howth .....big improvement

christeb

chakattack wrote: »

What's the haggard? Right at the church?

No bother to ya on a std if you can do 8:17.....

But right AFTER doing 8:17? Wasn't happening. Also I'm (running) racing tonight, so wanted to keep some freshness in the legs. And I wanted an ice-cream.

del88 wrote: »

I see the road has been re-tarmaced between sutton and howth .....big improvement

Yep, it's great.

Inquitus

This morning did 9:28 so 20 secs faster than last time, and into a worse headwind, with 30 hard km @ avg 30kph into the wind from Swords to Howth already in the legs as I was late to meet someone. No headwind or fresh legs and I am under 9mins for sure.....a decent tailwind and who knows! I'll be back!

Edwardius

Went up the village side and turned right at the church this afternoon. Had to use the granny gear and had numerous heart attacks on the way up ! Vicious!

Raam

Dead Ed wrote: »

Went up the village side and turned right at the church this afternoon. Had to use the granny gear and had numerous heart attacks on the way up ! Vicious!

I did that very same route myself a few times this early afternoon. Trying desperately to remember how to suffer.

Lusk Doyle

Raam wrote: »

I did that very same route myself a few times this early afternoon. Trying desperately to remember how to suffer.

Love that climb. It's a total handlebar chewer!

robr32

anyone know what the grad is for right of the church. have done it several times recently and it doesn't seem to get any easier, although left of the church doesn't seem so bad now .

rob.

Raam

16% from what I saw today. Feels like more.

Hermy

Raam wrote: »

16% from what I saw today. Feels like more.

Always wondered about that.

John_Rambo

del88 wrote: »

I see the road has been re-tarmaced between sutton and howth .....big improvement

That's for Gay Byrne's drive to the park. :pac:

Dermot Illogical

John_Rambo wrote: »

That's for Gay Byrne's drive to the park. :pac:

Then they'll need to widen it for his ego..

easygoing39

Plus gay hasnt lived in Howth for years!!He lives on the southside now.

Lusk Doyle

del88 wrote: »

I see the road has been re-tarmaced between sutton and howth .....big improvement

Is there still a cycle lane?

RobertFoster

It's just a broken white line now, the red schmutz is gone.

Raam

It's still crappy around Deer Park for a bit.

Dermot Illogical

10:34 last week
10:29 yesterday
9.37 today
I'm happy with that. Next goal is to bring it under 9 mins.

kennyb3

^^^ Im sure you know by the difference in the time from yesterday that conditions were premium today for that particular hill.

Never seen so many cyclists on it as tonight - cue a raft of PB's being posted up tomorrow with that strong NW wind.

Was well under my own PB just before the top when i 'schleked' my chain and got it tangled when shifting back up:rolleyes:

Dermot Illogical

^^ Yep, but now I have the time down I'll be keeping it there dammit!

glennbhoy

i ran from bull island up the sutton side and back round via village in 1hr and half this evening

Could feel the wind on the hill and wishing i had my bike so could beat my pb of 8 30

Lusk Doyle

kennyb3 wrote: »

^^^ Im sure you know by the difference in the time from yesterday that conditions were premium today for that particular hill.

Never seen so many cyclists on it as tonight - cue a raft of PB's being posted up tomorrow with that strong NW wind.

Was well under my own PB just before the top when i 'schleked' my chain and got it tangled when shifting back up:rolleyes:

Ah crap! I was going to head out but thought the wind was the wrong way. Stayed local instead so no PB today for me. Rats!

Raam

New rule: PBs only count on days where there is no wind or where there is a head wind.

Lusk Doyle

Raam wrote: »

New rule: PBs only count on days where there is no wind or where there is a head wind.

Who died and made you the IOC?

kennyb3

Lusk Doyle wrote: »

Ah crap! I was going to head out but thought the wind was the wrong way. Stayed local instead so no PB today for me. Rats!

So you're back training and not being a wuzz and/or playing golf then? spin saturday?

Defo not the wrong way anyway, was soft pedalling down to sutton averaging 36kmph @ 130bpm, whereas coming home - well lets not talk about that

Raam wrote: »

New rule: PBs only count on days where there is no wind or where there is a head wind.

Or it may be handy if people are posting a time to stick in arough note on wind direction and speed

So last night would be NW 30kmph.

Lusk Doyle

kennyb3 wrote: »

So you're back training and not being a wuzz and/or playing golf then? spin saturday?

Sure thing. 7:15 at Woodies near the estuary. Start a thread!

Bairdsy

Can anyone tell me what street the Hill starts on and finishes? Relatively new to Dublin and have no idea.

Thanks,

Lusk Doyle

Bairdsy wrote: »

Can anyone tell me what street the Hill starts on and finishes? Relatively new to Dublin and have no idea.

Thanks,

At Sutton Cross head up past the marine hotel (on your right) and continue up the hill that way with Dublin bay on your right. Going left at Sutton Cross will bring you into Howth village along a flat, level road. If you can't see the mountains in Wicklow then you are on the wrong side of Howth!

You want the Greenfield road that turns into Carrickbrack road a little further up.

Raam

This is more or less it: http://www.strava.com/rides/from-sutton-side-06-674234

Raam

Actually, I think this is bang on.

Start

Finish

Now let us all refer to this post for ever and ever.

Bairdsy

Raam wrote: »

Actually, I think this is bang on.

Start

Finish

Now let us all refer to this post for ever and ever.

Thanks all!

Lusk Doyle

Raam wrote: »

Now let us all refer to this post for ever and ever.

Once upon a time, a long time ago, there lived a [man] by the name of Raam....

Inquitus

Is there still a favourable wind this evening? I have only ever done this into a stiff breeze.

kennyb3

Inquitus wrote: »

Is there still a favourable wind this evening? I have only ever done this into a stiff breeze.

Not amazing so but decent enough. From the west is good, NW = great. Anything from the south = bad. So Wednesdays met.ie forecast would be a tough day for it.

It doesnt make a huge difference most days as a lot of it is sheltered but last night it the wind was pretty strong.

Raam

Presumably people are interested in getting stronger rather than just riding up the hill in a fast time due to a strong tail wind.

Now that we have established that, go forth and climb the hill regardless of the weather.

Moflojo

Raam wrote: »

Presumably people are interested in getting stronger rather than just riding up the hill in a fast time

:pac: Pacman finds your naiveness amusing!

kennyb3

Raam wrote: »

Presumably people are interested in getting stronger rather than just riding up the hill in a fast time due to a strong tail wind.

Now that we have established that, go forth and climb the hill regardless of the weather.

+1, only fooling yourself. I was on for 7.4x last night but although my PB is just over 8, i know my best effort was an 8.2X.

The real truth is if you do 3 to 5 repeats and see what your average is too.

I have a sick association with that hill.

easygoing39

Tonight around 7.30pm I went up the hill.I thought at the start there was a very slight headwind,anyways I did a PB of 7.56,so am well happy.Conditions were much better than normal and there was lots of other riders out.

Kav0777

I thought last night would be the night to go sub 10 min for the first time, missed it by 9 seconds....... gutted :mad:

NeedMoreGears

09:56 tonight with a side wind (so I am counting it as a "real" time). Well pleased* as I've been just over the ten a few times recently.


* it's the small victories that count

Raam

I was up the rhs of the church on wed. It's 10 leading to 16 as you cover the right hand bend leading to 20 percent as you take the left hand bend, easing off to 10 and decreasing. So a total bollox in other words.

bcmf

Raam wrote: »

I was up the rhs of the church ... a total bollox in other words.

Myself, Rob Fowl and another soldier went to Howth yest. Went up the Sutton side first then down to the village. Stopped for a luvverly coffee then Rob Fowl suggested we go up the steep side and keep to the right of the church. Not funny.
Agree with Raam. A complete bollox of a climb.
Would be interested to see the break down of the gradient.

Raam

bcmf wrote: »

Myself, Rob Fowl and another soldier went to Howth yest. Went up the Sutton side first then down to the village. Stopped for a luvverly coffee then Rob Fowl suggested we go up the steep side and keep to the right of the church. Not funny.
Agree with Raam. A complete bollox of a climb.
Would be interested to see the break down of the gradient.

If I remember, and I probably won't, I'll grab the Garmin output from the last spin up and post it this eve.

bcmf

Gonna go into MMR and break it down in small say 30mtr sections.

Raam

I find that MMR can mask a lot of gradient, but sure see how you get on and we can compare results.

manwithaplan

The right hand side of the church is a bollox alright but at least it's over quick enough. I would prefer it any day to the torture of trying to better a PB on the sutton side.

Speaking of which, I went up the Sutton side on Monday night (admittedly in bad conditions). My time suggested that three weeks holidays, even with some time on the bike, did more than just take the edge off. This was confirmed in last night's league race when I hammered around with scratch for the first of two laps and just couldn't face a second.

Raam

manwithaplan wrote: »

The right hand side of the church is a bollox alright but at least it's over quick enough.

You know that you are then meant to carry on and go up Windgate Road?

manwithaplan

Raam wrote: »

You know that you are then meant to carry on and go up Windgate Road?

Yes but that's only a 30 second hill after the right turn. You're at the top then.

I'm not saying I'd like to race up it...

Raam

I'm not sure of the exact high point, but it's roughly 2km from Harbour Road.
http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Harbour+Rd&daddr=Windgate+Rd&hl=en&ll=53.381895,-6.066728&spn=0.019915,0.038581&sll=53.37408,-6.063799&sspn=0.00498,0.009645&geocode=FVKkLgMdznWj_w%3BFTZrLgMdnnij_w&mra=mift&mrsp=1&sz=17&vpsrc=6&t=h&z=15

bcmf

From the church to just before the right hand turn : .28km with a very short section of 19 and 20 %

From Crosstrees to the turn for Balkill Park : .21km with a ramp of a good bit to 20%

From Balkill Park to the 'crossroads' : .26km again with a v short ramp of 20% but with a longish section of 10%

Following section : .21km pretty much sustained between 10 and 20%
Thats pretty much it.
However do it one full sweep and it doesnt give the gradient anywhere over 16%
so the truth, I would imagine, is somehwere in between

kennyb3

manwithaplan wrote: »

Yes but that's only a 30 second hill after the right turn. You're at the top then.

I'm not saying I'd like to race up it...

I find windgate the toughest bit to be honest prob for 2 reasons one the HR is already sky high whereas you get half way up the RHS at the church 'for free' before the HR goes sky high and secondly the first bit drains both the legs and mind - going again hard for a 2nd time is a real PITA