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The Official Cavan GAA Discussion thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    Brady won the US Nationals for the seventh time in eight years. A simply phenomenal achievement. He beat Charly Shanks in the final in two games straight. Heres his semi final game against Pittsburgh's Dave Fink



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭Tom Joad


    Interesting that the Sindo is predicting a narrow Cavan victory.

    Must have the spuds now and head to Brewster early:D

    C'mon CAVAN


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Tom Joad wrote: »
    Interesting that the Sindo is predicting a narrow Cavan victory.

    Must have the spuds now and head to Brewster early:D

    C'mon CAVAN

    Must be the first media outlet that has. Rumours abound that Corr will start midfield with McKiernan on the 40.

    Wouldn't be a bad change as it'd allow Givney to go forward and Corr could stay back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭johnmcdnl


    Cavan v Kildare in the qualifiers next round - now that'd be interesting stuff :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Just back in the South!

    Fantastic second half by the lads. At the end of the first half, I was very worried and worrying where all these rumours of plenty of high intensity training were coming from.

    2 goals in 2 minutes and then the clincher lead to a fine win. 3-13 was a fine score to rack up too.

    I can see us getting Kildare. It's written in the stars!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭cavan4sam


    great win today but lets not get carried away its hard to know who would be best to get in the qualifiers, i'd like to get the sewer rats (monaghan)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    cavan4sam wrote: »
    great win today but lets not get carried away its hard to know who would be best to get in the qualifiers, i'd like to get the sewer rats (monaghan)

    We can get:

    Limerick
    Kerry
    Tyrone
    Monaghan
    Leitrim
    Galway
    Wexford
    Kildare

    I'd be hoping to stay away from an Ulster team tbh and praying for Leitrim!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭Tom Joad


    Lemlin wrote: »
    We can get:

    Limerick
    Kerry
    Tyrone
    Monaghan
    Leitrim
    Galway
    Wexford
    Kildare

    I'd be hoping to stay away from an Ulster team tbh and praying for Leitrim!

    Absolutely fantastic stuff from the lads today - done the county proud when the looked to be heading out with a whimper. But lets not get carried away. Realistically out of that group Leitrim would be the perfect draw, followed by Limerick - we want to avoid Kerry, Tyrone and Galway and get a bit of momentum going. But in saying all that I have a feeling that its going to be Cavan v Kildare in Breffni - its destined..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Well done Cavan,delighted for you all.













    Have lots of relations in Cavan :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭RealityCheck


    I'd a feeling Cavan would take Fermanagh. I mean Fermanagh are no great shakes. I think too many were reading into the Canavan factor that hasn't really materialised. Its important for a county at Cavans level of development to win a qualifier or two. It should bring on a young team.

    I wouldn't be too wary against ourselves Galway, especially if it was in Breffni Park. As a Galway fan I wouldn't relish playing Cavan in Breffni Park but then again there's not many I would.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭Tom Joad


    I'd a feeling Cavan would take Fermanagh. I mean Fermanagh are no great shakes. I think too many were reading into the Canavan factor that hasn't really materialised. Its important for a county at Cavans level of development to win a qualifier or two. It should bring on a young team.

    I wouldn't be too wary against ourselves Galway, especially if it was in Breffni Park. As a Galway fan I wouldn't relish playing Cavan in Breffni Park but then again there's not many I would.

    I always felt that Fermanagh was a good draw - we could believe that we had a chance and this team really needs a run of games to develop some self belief. I wouldn't fancy us against Galway in Breffni as we could be overawed if things started going wrong. Every team has bad patches in games but Cavan's confidence can be so brittle that they can crumble. And don't forget the beating the U21's took against Galway in Croker last year.

    For Cavan today we got a goal and then followed up with another 2-3 in 8 minutes - we can do that against teams that we think we can match - done similar against Wicklow in 2010.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    I think Hyland got the mix right today in terms of youth mixed with experience. You had experience in James Reilly, Podge, McKeever, Corr, Flanagan, Keating and Givney. And then the youth of Fergal Flanagan, Clarke, Tighe, McLoughlin, Brady, McKiernan, McDermott and Tierney.

    What's interesting is that our best midfield was McKiernan and Corr when Givney was gone off and McKiernan moved into the forwards. I can't see Givney making the next match which is disappointing for him as he has suffered from injuries before.

    The front 3 of McDermott, Keating and Brady were impressive and look like they could be a handful for any team.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭RealityCheck


    Tom Joad wrote: »
    I always felt that Fermanagh was a good draw - we could believe that we had a chance and this team really needs a run of games to develop some self belief. I wouldn't fancy us against Galway in Breffni as we could be overawed if things started going wrong. Every team has bad patches in games but Cavan's confidence can be so brittle that they can crumble. And don't forget the beating the U21's took against Galway in Croker last year.

    Personally I would fancy Galway against Cavan but Galway have become very flaky. I definitely wouldn't put them on the same pedestal as Kerry and Tyrone. If I was a Cavan fan my preference would be for Leitrim, Limerick, Monaghan and Galway in that order. Kildare and Wexford wouldn't be the worst draws at home for differing reasons. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭Tom Joad


    Personally I would fancy Galway against Cavan but Galway have become very flaky. I definitely wouldn't put them on the same pedestal as Kerry and Tyrone. If I was a Cavan fan my preference would be for Leitrim, Limerick, Monaghan and Galway in that order. Kildare and Wexford wouldn't be the worst draws at home for differing reasons. ;)

    Wouldn't disagree with the order of preferences too much - my main point about Galway is that as a big number of the lads would have experienced being battered by Galway last year and Galway with their tails up could cause us big problems ala Cork demolishing us in 2010. We could all do without a Cavan and Kildare draw and the circus that the media would make out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Hammar


    Just flicking through the Meath and Dublin games there and nearly getting banned for my input on the Kildare/Meath thread!!!! ,so i'm only posting my thoughts on the game now.
    It was a terrific last quarter from the lads scoring about 3-5 in less than 10 minutes.
    I don't like being negative,but i have to say that poor defensive discipline and poor shooting contributed to us going so far adrift.
    If we go so far behind a a better team we won't be making any comeback.
    However we have to give great credit to the likes of Niall Smith,Mossy Corr,two McKiernans,Keating,Brady and McDermott etc were terrific when the going got tough.Kevin Tierney also made a big impact when he came on as did Jason McLoughlin.
    The Junior's successful campaign has really added some options to the panel in Joshua Hayes,James Farrelly(allowing Fannin to become an option out the field),Darragh Tighe who started today and has allowed the likes of Rory Dunne and Damien Barkey to regain match fitness.
    Hopefully we can get one of the "easier teams" in round two and give this talented young bunch some more much needed experience at this level.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭RealityCheck


    Tom Joad wrote: »
    Wouldn't disagree with the order of preferences too much - my main point about Galway is that as a big number of the lads would have experienced being battered by Galway last year and Galway with their tails up could cause us big problems ala Cork demolishing us in 2010. We could all do without a Cavan and Kildare draw and the circus that the media would make out of it.

    I see where your coming from alright, although the transition of some of our U21 winners has been somewhat blighted. I don't think Galway are capable of demolishing Cavan tbh. Beating them comfortably maybe but no more than that.

    Anyway thats highly hypothetical. Be some laugh if the draw turns out that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Hammar


    I see where your coming from alright, although the transition of some of our U21 winners has been somewhat blighted. I don't think Galway are capable of demolishing Cavan tbh. Beating them comfortably maybe but no more than that.

    Anyway thats highly hypothetical. Be some laugh if the draw turns out that way.

    Reality Check,
    I was so impressed with a number of that Galway team especially both the 18/19 year old midfielders and Mark Hehir,Danny Cummins and Michael Boyle(in particular) in the forwards.
    I know Hehir played this year but what about the other stars on that team???? Have they played much senior football?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭RealityCheck


    Hammar wrote: »
    Reality Check,
    I was so impressed with a number of that Galway team especially both the 18/19 year old midfielders and Mark Hehir,Danny Cummins and Michael Boyle(in particular) in the forwards.
    I know Hehir played this year but what about the other stars on that team???? Have they played much senior football?


    Ya Hehir is the one who's made one of the bigger impacts. He scored a good goal against Roscommon can get one or two scores from play and importantly he's good from the frees. Having said that though, its at corner forward he's playing, not centre forward. He never really settled yet out the field.

    The other player to make a more serious impact is Jonny Duane, who's playing centre back and looks reasonably solid.

    Most of the others haven't really impacted yet. Flynn, one of the midfielders started both games this year but is a bit out of place at wing forward. The other midfielder (O'Curraoin) had a good year with DCU in the Sigerson but got injured and hasn't been available for selection until now. The full back Colin Forde made a decent impact last year but hasn't really featured this year. The likes of Boyle and Cummins haven't made the breakthough. Indeed Boyle was dropped from the panel there for a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Tom Joad wrote: »
    I always felt that Fermanagh was a good draw - we could believe that we had a chance and this team really needs a run of games to develop some self belief. I wouldn't fancy us against Galway in Breffni as we could be overawed if things started going wrong. Every team has bad patches in games but Cavan's confidence can be so brittle that they can crumble. And don't forget the beating the U21's took against Galway in Croker last year.

    Personally I would fancy Galway against Cavan but Galway have become very flaky. I definitely wouldn't put them on the same pedestal as Kerry and Tyrone. If I was a Cavan fan my preference would be for Leitrim, Limerick, Monaghan and Galway in that order. Kildare and Wexford wouldn't be the worst draws at home for differing reasons. ;)

    To be honest, I wouldn't get ahead of ourselves. We did well to win today but, apart from Leitrim, Cavan would be an underdog against any of the sides we can potentially play.

    Would be great to get a home draw and give a decent account of ourselves against some team in Breffni. What we don't want is a repeat of the Cork away game in 2010.

    I can see us getting Kildare. The GAA know it'd get huge attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    Brady's final in Los Caballeros, California against Shanks (Armagh) in the US Nationals.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Hammar


    Ya Hehir is the one who's made one of the bigger impacts. He scored a good goal against Roscommon can get one or two scores from play and importantly he's good from the frees. Having said that though, its at corner forward he's playing, not centre forward. He never really settled yet out the field.

    The other player to make a more serious impact is Jonny Duane, who's playing centre back and looks reasonably solid.

    Most of the others haven't really impacted yet. Flynn, one of the midfielders started both games this year but is a bit out of place at wing forward. The other midfielder (O'Curraoin) had a good year with DCU in the Sigerson but got injured and hasn't been available for selection until now. The full back Colin Forde made a decent impact last year but hasn't really featured this year. The likes of Boyle and Cummins haven't made the breakthough. Indeed Boyle was dropped from the panel there for a while.

    Interesting,Thanks for that.
    I wouldn't particularly like to see Cavan draw Galway in the draw tommorow morning.
    Theres so much talent in that Galway panel and they have the ability to destroy pretty much any of the round one qualifier winners,if they hit top form.
    Galways 11 goal rampage in which Meehan scored 4 on his own against Cavan in a challenge game about 10 years is something which always sticks in my mind,when Cavan and Galway are brought up together. :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭Tom Joad


    Hammar wrote: »
    Interesting,Thanks for that.
    I wouldn't particularly like to see Cavan draw Galway in the draw tommorow morning.
    Theres so much talent in that Galway panel and they have the ability to destroy pretty much any of the round one qualifier winners,if they hit top form.
    Galways 11 goal rampage in which Meehan scored 4 on his own against Cavan in a challenge game about 10 years is something which always sticks in my mind,when Cavan and Galway are brought up together. :eek:

    That would be my fear too. You go into a Galway dressing room before a game and say "right boys we are playing Cavan today just go for it and express yourselves". The Galway lads would be ultra confident and could open Cavan up with the ability and talent they have ala Cork in 2010. Last thing this Cavan team needs at the minute.. it could really set them back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭RealityCheck


    Tom Joad wrote: »
    That would be my fear too. You go into a Galway dressing room before a game and say "right boys we are playing Cavan today just go for it and express yourselves". The Galway lads would be ultra confident and could open Cavan up with the ability and talent they have ala Cork in 2010. Last thing this Cavan team needs at the minute.. it could really set them back.

    Out of curiosity would you fear teams like Armagh (I know they're out) and Meath (can't happen)? Teams maybe around the level of Galway.I know tradition is important but still if ye're that worried about Galway, I don't know what ye're reaction would be to playing Kerry!

    Granted the former U21's will have bad memories but as I said before Galway are exceptionally flaky.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭Tom Joad


    Out of curiosity would you fear teams like Armagh (I know they're out) and Meath (can't happen)? Teams maybe around the level of Galway.I know tradition is important but still if ye're that worried about Galway, I don't know what ye're reaction would be to playing Kerry!

    Granted the former U21's will have bad memories but as I said before Galway are exceptionally flaky.

    Ulster teams may beat us but we are never really hammered by them - we'd respect them but have started to beat them at underage level especially Tyrone recently. Meath - we beat them in 2005 and they are neighbours and there would be no love lost between Cavan and Meath so for that reason alone we would give them a rattle. Cork, Kerry, Dubs - I fear we would be overawed by them and could be overrun. Galway to me have that ability and aura about them on a good day. Today was massive for the progression of this Cavan team but they are young and very light and need a few wins to progress at this level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    So the draw is made and the GAA blatantly show its rigged. Same as last year when Meath drew Louth.

    I'm happy enough with a home draw against Kildare to be honest. If the players can't get motivated for that one, then they won't get motivated for anything. And there's a chance that we might actually be involved in a televised qualifier with all the hype.

    Kildare will be raging hot favourites and rightly so. Cavan are at the start of what Hyland has said is a 3 to 4 year plan. Kildare are coming to the end of their plan. Hopefully we'll give a decent account of ourselves anyway.

    At least we avoided Kerry and Tyrone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭cavan4sam


    i think its the draw we all wanted/dreaded
    i dont think we'll beat kildare but i do think we'll give them a good game we have nothing to lose , i doubt a certain former cavan player will figure but you never know with mc geeney , its nice to have the game in breffni too hopefully the supporters will turn out in big numbers for this one


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Wouldn't miss this one for the world. The lads should be up for this one big time so hopefully we can pull off a result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    cavan4sam wrote: »
    i think its the draw we all wanted/dreaded
    i dont think we'll beat kildare but i do think we'll give them a good game we have nothing to lose , i doubt a certain former cavan player will figure but you never know with mc geeney , its nice to have the game in breffni too hopefully the supporters will turn out in big numbers for this one

    I'd be hopeful that the people of the county will show up and get behind our young team. Only 5,000 turned up yesterday in Brewster so it was a poor showing from both sets of supporters, particularly as it was known the game would be nip and tuck and fairly close.

    Anyone have any news on David Givney's injury?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭Tom Joad


    cavan4sam wrote: »
    i think its the draw we all wanted/dreaded
    i dont think we'll beat kildare but i do think we'll give them a good game we have nothing to lose , i doubt a certain former cavan player will figure but you never know with mc geeney , its nice to have the game in breffni too hopefully the supporters will turn out in big numbers for this one

    To be honest I think we needed that draw like a whole in the head - dream draw for the GAA - this will be a sellout in Breffni and probably on the box. The Seanie hype just refuses to go away and it will be feverpitch between now and throw-in. I hope the Cavan lads keep the heads down and away from the media circus and do themselves justice on the day. Don't expect Cavan to win but all the pressure will be on Kildare. I really hope that for everyone's sake that McGeeney names his panel early and leaves Seanie out..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Tom Joad wrote: »
    To be honest I think we needed that draw like a whole in the head - dream draw for the GAA - this will be a sellout in Breffni and probably on the box. The Seanie hype just refuses to go away and it will be feverpitch between now and throw-in. I hope the Cavan lads keep the heads down and away from the media circus and do themselves justice on the day. Don't expect Cavan to win but all the pressure will be on Kildare. I really hope that for everyone's sake that McGeeney names his panel early and leaves Seanie out..

    I think there's no questioning that Seanie will be left out of the Kildare panel. The one thing this match will do is help to get people interested in the team again, 5,000 fans yesterday from both sets of supporters was a poor showing. People need to get behind our young players and show them support.

    Had an interesting look at yesterday's team. Now, some of the ages could be wrong (James Reilly's, Corr's and Damien Reilly's in particular) but the others are right I think. So we only had 3 players out of 15 over the age of 25 on the pitch yesterday. Even so-called seasoned players like Podge and Ronan Flanagan are still quite young.

    Cavan -- J Reilly - over 30;
    D Tighe - 22,
    K Clarke - 18,
    P O'Reilly - 25;
    M McKeever 28,
    F Flanagan - 20,
    D Reilly - 23/24;
    D Givney - 23,
    T Corr - 28;
    N Smith - 22,
    G McKiernan - 22,
    R Flanagan - 25;
    N McDermott - 21,
    E Keating - 23,
    J Brady - 20.

    Average age : 23.4

    Subs: K Tierney - 18,
    J McLoughlin - 19,
    D McKiernan - 23,
    K Meehan - 22,

    Average age of team and subs: 22.78


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Hammar


    Lemlin wrote: »
    I think there's no questioning that Seanie will be left out of the Kildare panel. The one thing this match will do is help to get people interested in the team again, 5,000 fans yesterday from both sets of supporters was a poor showing. People need to get behind our young players and show them support.

    Had an interesting look at yesterday's team. Now, some of the ages could be wrong (James Reilly's, Corr's and Damien Reilly's in particular) but the others are right I think. So we only had 3 players out of 15 over the age of 25 on the pitch yesterday. Even so-called seasoned players like Podge and Ronan Flanagan are still quite young.

    Cavan -- J Reilly - over 30;
    D Tighe - 22,
    K Clarke - 18,
    P O'Reilly - 25;
    M McKeever 28,
    F Flanagan - 20,
    D Reilly - 23/24;
    D Givney - 23,
    T Corr - 28;
    N Smith - 22,
    G McKiernan - 22,
    R Flanagan - 25;
    N McDermott - 21,
    E Keating - 23,
    J Brady - 20.

    Average age : 23.4

    Subs: K Tierney - 18,
    J McLoughlin - 19,
    D McKiernan - 23,
    K Meehan - 22,

    Average age of team and subs: 22.78

    I don't think Corr is 28,but it just illustrated the youth/inexperience in the panel.
    I think the average age of the Donegal panel we played this year was over 27, so we were giving up on average 4+ years of strength and conditioning work and hard training per player.
    I hope we can go out and give Kildare a good rattle in two weeks time.
    We probably aren't at the stage of our development whereby we can realistically expect to get anything from the game,but it will be a good test for the lads all the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,908 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    It was interesting to hear Val Andrews on Radio 1 yesterday and it links in to the introduction of all the new players.
    He wouldn't be drawn on the reasons why Seanie was left out of the panel but pointed out there was something like 6 others who also didn't get the call up so it wasnt a Seanie vendetta or anything.

    He later said that he was asked by the county board, before his last stint as manager began, to clear out the panel along with tacking discipline and motivation issues (if i remember the formulation of words right).
    The way it was put left little doubt that the county board wanted him to be as ruthless as necessary.

    Its a roundabout confirmation right from the centre of former Cavan management of what many here from Cavan have said BUT folks from outside the county couldn't quite grasp nor believe, that even amongst the county's so called best and senior players there was something amiss in the team spirit and commitment department.
    EDIT: here's the programme to listen again : http://www.rte.ie/sport/player/809/327378/

    I amnt expecting miracles from the young Cavan team but so long as they dont experience stage fright like the U21 team in Croker last year they should be a good sparring partner for Kildare even if they mightn't come out the winner the other end of it.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Lemlin wrote: »
    Anyone have any news on David Givney's injury?
    Seemingly he should be ok for the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭celt262


    cournioni wrote: »
    Seemingly he should be ok for the game.

    He was poor yesterday hopefully he will be back and ups his game because we wil need him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Greenngold


    How did John McCutcheon get on with Cootehill last night Celt Man?

    The Div1 league is looking very interesting, with 7 teams going down every game is a battle. The likes of Ballinagh are in 10th place


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭celt262


    Greenngold wrote: »
    How did John McCutcheon get on with Cootehill last night Celt Man?

    The Div1 league is looking very interesting, with 7 teams going down every game is a battle. The likes of Ballinagh are in 10th place

    I am not Celt Man :)

    He played the whole game as a wing half forward and got at least one point. I wasnt at it but was told he had a good game. I dont know if he will be involved for the Kildare game it might be a bit soon for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭muincav


    Hard luck to Cootehill Celtic hurling club representing Cavan in the Feile Na nGael All Ireland Final today, beaten by Setanta Ballymun 1-4 to 1-3 only by a bad decision by an umpire who gave a goal that was CLEARLY 2-3 feet away from the line,...even the Setanta players didnt think it was in and the ref didnt see it either-but a great achievement to get to the final for Cootehill players, coaches and mentors. Well done lads.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭cavan4sam


    disappointing result but not unexpected , kind of glad this year is over as at least next year hyland can start fresh

    good luck to seanie and kildare also to clare who are managed by a shercock man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,243 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    Best of luck to Cavan lads!! I'll be watching your under 21s and minors to see the talent a lot of people are talking About!!!

    Btw mates said breffni was a lovely ground and a tribute to cavan

    I might visit u up there soon for a goo at the grounds :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭celt262


    Best of luck to Cavan lads!! I'll be watching your under 21s and minors to see the talent a lot of people are talking About!!!

    Btw mates said breffni was a lovely ground and a tribute to cavan

    I might visit u up there soon for a goo at the grounds :)

    Its one off the best county grounds in the country, probably could do with a bigger covered stand though but great view of the field from everywhere inside the ground.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    celt262 wrote: »
    Its one off the best county grounds in the country, probably could do with a bigger covered stand though but great view of the field from everywhere inside the ground.

    One of the few county grounds with facilities for every game under the GAA umbrella along with Armagh I think.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    celt262 wrote: »
    Its one off the best county grounds in the country, probably could do with a bigger covered stand though but great view of the field from everywhere inside the ground.
    Great spot for spectators alright. The pitch is crap when its wet though. It would pull the legs off you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Very disappointing result yesterday. I didn't expect a win by any stretch of the imagination but I was hoping for a better performance. I'm a fan of Hyland and think he should be given his 4 or 5 years but the tactics just didn't work out yesterday. Players seemed to be switching off all over the place and the team was disjointed.

    At one stage, David Givney ran into the full forward line and it appeared that he was going to work a two man full forward line with Keating. A couple of minutes later though, and without a ball even going in, he was gone off down the pitch again. Niall Smith did well running at Kildare but he didn't track Emmet Bolton back and Bolton had a hand in each of the goals. I would have expected that a defensive minded half forward would have been put on Bolton.

    I can't understand why Killian Clarke, an 18 year old fresh out of minor, was left to mark Tommy O'Connor. What was the reasoning behind moving Padraig O'Reilly from full back? O'Connor roasted Clarke the entire game and Clarke was fortunate O'Reilly got back and took O'Connor down for a free when he was running straight through at one stage. McKeever not starting was surprising as well.

    Next year we're in Division 3 with Sligo, Antrim and Meath, all of whom are still in the championship. It's not going to get any easier quickly and the best we can hope for is to consolidate our position in that division by the look of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭celt262


    Lemlin wrote: »

    At one stage, David Givney ran into the full forward line and it appeared that he was going to work a two man full forward line with Keating. A couple of minutes later though, and without a ball even going in, he was gone off down the pitch again.

    He was running after his man they were driving forward from everywhere on the pitch. At one stage a ball went in to Givney and it was broke away, within seconds the man that was marking Giviney had the ball at the half way line under the stand. As soon as the ball was broke he just sprinted forward they are super fit.

    Niall Smith did well running at Kildare but he didn't track Emmet Bolton back and Bolton had a hand in each of the goals. I would have expected that a defensive minded half forward would have been put on Bolton.

    Bolton likes to get forward and it would probably have suited better to have someone that would track him better. On Smith he has to work on his shooting from 25m+ if he is going to cut it at this level.

    I can't understand why Killian Clarke, an 18 year old fresh out of minor, was left to mark Tommy O'Connor. What was the reasoning behind moving Padraig O'Reilly from full back?

    Didnt make sence but did the selection of Tighe make sence either, i dont think that a player of his size can be a sucess at intercounty level.


    McKeever not starting was surprising as well.

    A lad with power, experience and a good footballing brain would have been an asset from the start yesterday.

    Next year we're in Division 3 with Sligo, Antrim and Meath, all of whom are still in the championship. It's not going to get any easier quickly and the best we can hope for is to consolidate our position in that division by the look of it.
    Yeah wont be getting out of divison 3 in a hurry.
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    celt262 wrote: »
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    In relation to Tighe, there's obviously a huge problem with the standard of the corner backs in the county. Andrews was playing players like Flanagan and Stephen Jordan there, lads who had never played the position even in club football, and Hyland doesn't seem to have much confidence in what's available either.

    It's a pity Michael Hannon no longer plays intercounty. He was a great corner back.

    From what's available, I'm surprised Damien Barkey didn't figure. He was one of the best players in the league games I saw and I thought he was hard done by not to start against Fermanagh or Kildare.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭Tom Joad


    Amazing result in the county championship today with Killygarry beating Cavan Gaels in the Quarter Finals - blows the championship wide open and should be a positive thing for Cavan football.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Gallant_JJ


    Will be great to see a new pairing in the county final all right. First time in 12 years the Gaels wont be participating in it.

    Kingscourt would have to be favourites now. Apparently the could be got at as much as 4/1 only last week. I'm sure that has shortened considerably now.

    Semis are:

    Castlerahan v Kingscourt, Sat 15th @8
    Mullahoran v Killygarry, Sun 16th @4


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭Tom Joad


    Gallant_JJ wrote: »
    Will be great to see a new pairing in the county final all right. First time in 12 years the Gaels wont be participating in it.

    Kingscourt would have to be favourites now. Apparently the could be got at as much as 4/1 only last week. I'm sure that has shortened considerably now.

    Semis are:

    Castlerahan v Kingscourt, Sat 15th @8
    Mullahoran v Killygarry, Sun 16th @4

    I would fancy a Kingscourt v Mullahoran final just like the old days again. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 810 ✭✭✭augustus gloop


    jeasus i dont know tom, ill go the opposite for the crack! killygarry castlerahan!

    seen killygarry v Cucus, if killygarry get a lead at all they defend in huge numbers kinda like donegal last year, and eoin smith will give eddie a good game.
    that along with castlerahan having the best FF line in the county.
    very interesting games never the less.


    and mountnugent for the Junior:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,087 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    Mullahoran bet Killygarry by a point earlier in the Championship and have been strengthened by the return of players since then. Killygarry showed battling qualities you wouldnt normally associate with them to beat the Gaels and will need to match that to beat Mullahoran. Killygarry also left plenty of scores behind them last weekend (particularly in the first half) which they cant afford to do against Mullahoran. I saw Mullahoran play two Championship games this year, they played badly in both but won by a point in both, wouldnt be surprised to see something similar again.

    Castlerahan looked very average against Belturbet the other day. Mackey in midfield drops back a lot and likes to pull the strings from there but is not as effective on the big field in Breffni as he is in Ballyjamesduff. One of the McConnell twins (the one that plays in the backs) will have his hands full with Joe Dillon so Castlerahan could lose his attacking threat. I think Kingscourt are more suited to the big pitch and will come through this one.


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